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Umm, was Turley in on the con? (Original Post) deminks Dec 2019 OP
He should be asked about this nt G_j Dec 2019 #1
Where do they find these people? Was there a casting call for conspiracy theory law professors? FM123 Dec 2019 #2
Follow the money or student sex tapes ...... Trump has something on him UCmeNdc Dec 2019 #7
Well, he did say he was friends with Barr. nt woodsprite Dec 2019 #11
I hope someone on the committee brings this up! Incredible how many shoes just keep dropping.n/t MerryBlooms Dec 2019 #3
I remember Keith Olbermann used to have him as a guest question everything Dec 2019 #4
I was wondering the same thing. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #5
That was a huge red flag. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #6
Me too. He looks like another vampire victim. Nt lostnfound Dec 2019 #9
Anyone Who Lived Through The Clinton Years Knows... jayfish Dec 2019 #12
Jeebus, they're all complicit! fleur-de-lisa Dec 2019 #8
Follow the smoking gun. Baitball Blogger Dec 2019 #10
I love DU malaise Dec 2019 #13
Definately drank the Kool Aid. It's Orwellian to watch. Civil War with no bullets, yet... Evolve Dammit Dec 2019 #14
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Dec 2019 #15
Turley Is Saying that ALL the Witnesses Need to Testify Rollerman Dec 2019 #16
He is supporting the administration because he knows that is a tactic to delay things Perseus Dec 2019 #22
Wow, what a hot cognitive mess that tweet displays! Backseat Driver Dec 2019 #17
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2019 #18
He's playing a steam-cleaned Kavanaugh. dchill Dec 2019 #21
Turley is always available for the role of Quisling Hack #2. dchill Dec 2019 #19
His argument that the process has gone too fast Perseus Dec 2019 #20
No, he just likes being seen as a Bigtime lawyer. GeorgeGist Dec 2019 #23
Just a koolaid drinker. He in 1998 said Bill Clinton should be held "SCRUPULOUSLY" close to the law. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2019 #24
What The ?!!?! uponit7771 Dec 2019 #25
His nonstop smug look belies any objective interest in directly confronting the truth. JudyM Dec 2019 #26
Yes, he is budkin Dec 2019 #27
If you read the column, he was talking about Ukrainian allies of Putin muriel_volestrangler Dec 2019 #28
Turley wrote like he was Putin's stenographer. Kid Berwyn Dec 2019 #29

question everything

(47,479 posts)
4. I remember Keith Olbermann used to have him as a guest
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 04:43 PM
Dec 2019

and I always thought his comments were worth listening to.

What happened to him? Following Dershowitz?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,705 posts)
5. I was wondering the same thing.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 04:46 PM
Dec 2019

He always seemed pretty rational and knowledgeable then. But he's a friend of Bill Barr, so there's that.

Evolve Dammit

(16,733 posts)
14. Definately drank the Kool Aid. It's Orwellian to watch. Civil War with no bullets, yet...
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:24 PM
Dec 2019

I hope we don't devolve to that point, but am afraid where we will go if he is not removed from office with a plurality. Putin could not be more pleased at his "Apprentice."

 

Rollerman

(42 posts)
16. Turley Is Saying that ALL the Witnesses Need to Testify
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:43 PM
Dec 2019

In that case, he’s not supporting the Administration.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
22. He is supporting the administration because he knows that is a tactic to delay things
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:19 PM
Dec 2019

That is why he has that bogus argument that the process has gone too fast...well jackass, it has gone fast because the evidence already gathered is enough to impeach the mother^&*^*!

Backseat Driver

(4,392 posts)
17. Wow, what a hot cognitive mess that tweet displays!
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:54 PM
Dec 2019

Rather indicative of just how effective Russia continues to be and was in 2016; Solomon indeed; let's just split the American baby to find truth and a killed baby...but not disregard MY personal bias that a monarch is always above the reproach of bias as supplied by addicts, conspiracy kooks, and greedy liars on a money/resource mission rather than American Intelligence sources? He might even consider that an "oxymoran" that relies on just what, fact or fantasy, for a conclusion?

Yup, he needs to be asked about that tweet in context and if it reached the level of his personal belief or was just an academic challenge to go exploring those constitutional amendments.

H2O Man

(73,543 posts)
18. Recommended.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:03 PM
Dec 2019

In person, he is a bitter, aging man who is frustrated that he has not been put on a federal bench. In fact, he believes that he should be appointed to the Supreme Court. This is why he is behaving on television in the manner we are seeing.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
20. His argument that the process has gone too fast
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:17 PM
Dec 2019

Really? And how fast or slow should it go? Is there a min and max that no one knows about?

Somebody should ask him...Prof. Turley, lets have a hypothetical...you are working for a client, and you need to hold an inquiry, I am a key witness whom you need to interrogate, you ask me to appear and I say "go fuck yourself", so you subpoena me and I say "go fuck yourself, my friend, who you are investigating told me not to appear". Besides being obscene, is it OK for me to ignore your subpoena? Am I in contempt of the law? Is my friend obstructing justice, or are we on our right to tell you to "fuck off"?

The fact that trump has been found to obstruct justice so many times and continues to do so should be enough for anyone who thinks to understand that impeachment is in order.

Turley is a big disappointment, I hope he doesn't get any students next semester. His rational for being against impeachment defies any logic, and I am not a lawyer but I have to think that it defies any of the impeachment laws as well.

I am not a witness and not being subpoenaed but...Turley, go and fuck yourself!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
28. If you read the column, he was talking about Ukrainian allies of Putin
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 07:11 PM
Dec 2019
Manafort was connected to Ukrainian politician Serhiy Lyovochkin and oligarch Rinat Akhmetov, among others, and received at least $60 million for his work. While some of these individuals favored Russia, their main interest was to maintain power and profits in Ukraine.
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The special counsel recently persuaded a federal judge to toss out the cooperating witness agreement with Manafort because he allegedly lied about meeting and sharing polling data with Ukrainian oligarch Konstantin Kilimnik, who has reported ties to Russian intelligence.
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Manafort worked primarily for the interests of notorious former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, who was responsible for corruption, alleged murders of protesters, and arrests of opponents. Before Yanukovych fled to Russia, he accumulated a reported estimated net worth of $12 billion. His flight was why Manafort became desperate for money and reached out to Trump for the campaign job. Manafort associate Rick Gates, now a cooperating federal witness, told friends that in every Ukrainian ministry, Manafort “has a guy” and referred to his work as a “shadow government.”

One of the most interesting disclosures from the Flynn investigation was a meeting in New York with Ukrainian politician Andrey Artemenko, Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, and Trump business associate Felix Sater. Shortly before Flynn resigned, these figures were working on a deal in which sanctions against Russia would be lifted in exchange for Russia leasing Crimea for 100 years while recognizing Ukrainian sovereignty over that region. Cohen is tied to Ukraine in other ways. He was introduced to Trump by his father in law, Fima Shusterman, a naturalized American citizen from Ukraine. Cohen also ran a taxi medallion business with his business partner, the “taxi king” Simon Garber, who was born in Ukraine.

It looks like Turley was trying to muddy the waters by calling it 'Ukrainian', though he admits inside the article that it was people allied to Putin's regime, not the Ukrainian government in 2016.

Kid Berwyn

(14,907 posts)
29. Turley wrote like he was Putin's stenographer.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 07:32 PM
Dec 2019

So far we have seen no direct connection between the Russians and the Trump campaign as part of a conspiracy to hack the computer systems of the Democrats. We do have is a lot of connections to Ukrainians, along with a lot of money. When the FBI pulled back the curtain from the sordid dealings of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, they found Ukrainians aplenty. Manafort was connected to Ukrainian politician Serhiy Lyovochkin and oligarch Rinat Akhmetov, among others, and received at least $60 million for his work. While some of these individuals favored Russia, their main interest was to maintain power and profits in Ukraine. Manafort struggled to satisfy them even as his connections drew attention and, ultimately, resulted in his being dismissed from the Trump campaign.

Source: https://jonathanturley.org/2019/02/24/is-mueller-uncovering-ukrainian-rather-the-russian-collusion/

Holy cat!

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