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****Live Impeachment hearing - THREAD 6**** (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 OP
***HEARING STILL IN A BRIEF RECESS BUT RESUMING SHORTLY*** BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #1
do you watch the c-span commentary during the breaks? IcyPeas Dec 2019 #2
I only watch these on CSPAN (in this case CSPAN3) BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #3
**** COMING BACK INTO SESSION**** BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #4
Andy Biggs (R-AZ) up BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #5
This hearing PatSeg Dec 2019 #6
I believe that every Dem has asked a question or more to the witnesses BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #11
The republicans more so than the Democrats PatSeg Dec 2019 #28
These are the 5 minute sessions BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #33
Then that's why PatSeg Dec 2019 #82
Oh I'm checking out the wonkette live blog. underpants Dec 2019 #7
Impeachment Spy? See pics. Who is this person? OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #8
That does look very suspicious PatSeg Dec 2019 #35
Biggs attempting to impugn Feldman BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #9
during the recess the camera showed IcyPeas Dec 2019 #10
They all know each other. BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #15
Is Prof. Turley vying for a seat on the Supreme Court? Blueplanet Dec 2019 #12
Unintentionally, he's vying for a seat in the men's room. dchill Dec 2019 #60
Biggs asked no questions. BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #13
Not a single one PatSeg Dec 2019 #40
Ted Lieu (D-CA) up BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #14
People aren't concerned about the use of 'royal wee' Mersky Dec 2019 #16
Ted Lieu describing how "impeachment" is not a criminal process but is a "civil process" BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #17
Lieu playing the Volker clip saying there was a "quid pro quo" BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #18
Ted Lieu invoked Cohen being in prison for solicitation for election. BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #19
+1 crickets Dec 2019 #27
WTF?? Karma13612 Dec 2019 #20
Thus proof the GOP is the swamp BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #23
Tom McClintock (R-CA) up BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #21
What a total ahole move n/t hibbing Dec 2019 #22
He's a jackass BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #26
It's not illegal to ask. Inappropriate, but not illegal. onenote Dec 2019 #38
Only 16 Committee members to go (80 minutes) brooklynite Dec 2019 #24
They forced them to answer a Never-Trumper question Generic Other Dec 2019 #25
Yes! This is why he wanted to ask the question. crickets Dec 2019 #30
McClintock continues the stupidity. madaboutharry Dec 2019 #29
where does mcclintock (a**hole, Ca) Marthe48 Dec 2019 #31
Sorry Mossfern Dec 2019 #32
Sounds like it to me underpants Dec 2019 #39
no need to be sorry Marthe48 Dec 2019 #41
Jamie Raskin (D-MD) up BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #34
I'd bet a number of the republicans on the committee Mersky Dec 2019 #36
They have all been told they will be marlakay Dec 2019 #45
I misread your name as "malarkey." :-) spooky3 Dec 2019 #109
Privacy wasn't as bad marlakay Dec 2019 #124
Yeah, it was such a pitch in the dirt Mersky Dec 2019 #128
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2019 #37
My CSPAN3 feed froze for about 10 seconds. BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #42
Debbie Lesko (R-AZ) up BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #43
MUTE!!! elleng Dec 2019 #46
Using the TEARING THE COUNTRY APART canard ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #48
She wants her personal letter to Nadler/the J Committee crickets Dec 2019 #49
Well, her letter H2O Man Dec 2019 #83
Well fuck, when I was 7 and slept over with a friend who had TV ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #93
Ha! Love it. crickets Dec 2019 #101
Lesko now quoting Nadler from his Mourning Schmo interview this morning BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #44
Another Republican not asking any questions to the witnesses. BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #47
...complaining about the drama, while stirring up [wait for it...] unnecessary drama. nt crickets Dec 2019 #55
The fact is that he shoudl have been impeached for stealing the 2016 elections malaise Dec 2019 #50
Lesko is making a speech Karma13612 Dec 2019 #51
Too many speeches PatSeg Dec 2019 #74
Everytime a repub speaks, I just feel like slapping them silly. woodsprite Dec 2019 #52
Lesko just pandering for sound bites backtoblue Dec 2019 #53
Totally agree gademocrat7 Dec 2019 #58
Finally a question to Turley. BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #54
She's done. Pramila Jayapal (D-WA) up. BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #57
The Republicans seem to be flopping once again C_U_L8R Dec 2019 #56
"President Biden"! Sounded pretty good when Lesko misspoke! nt woodsprite Dec 2019 #59
This yapping bottle blonde can go away any time. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #61
Lesko is pretending we have a transcript of the call instead of a heavily edited memorandum, crickets Dec 2019 #62
She's pretending that there's nothing to see here. dchill Dec 2019 #65
Jayapal is tearing the GOP "but it was all about corruption" talking point in pieces BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #63
Indeed! She's indicting the whole GOP with evidence! ancianita Dec 2019 #64
She did a great job of it, too. nt crickets Dec 2019 #69
Louis Goatmert (R-TX) putting an article into the record BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #66
Guy Reschenthaler (R-PA) up BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #67
and it's a good thing she took her time to decide on it IcyPeas Dec 2019 #71
Continuously smiling for the camera. dchill Dec 2019 #72
We call him Guy Smiley here in his district. He's an idiot and always has PA Democrat Dec 2019 #110
I'd never heard of him, but that particular kind of smile... dchill Dec 2019 #115
Mixing her words with his lies. *sigh* The tactic gets old. crickets Dec 2019 #79
Rats, I finally thought I would get a chance to laugh at Gohmert, but he fooled me. pangaia Dec 2019 #68
LOL BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #70
He is ignoring that 400 bills were sent to Turtle - finally asking something from Turley. BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #73
So sick of this whole Karma13612 Dec 2019 #75
"Bipartisan" is impossible with one whole party on the take. dchill Dec 2019 #81
Whenever republicans talk about bipartisan PatSeg Dec 2019 #89
Yup n/t Karma13612 Dec 2019 #117
lesko's reasoning might have worked IF Mersky Dec 2019 #76
Turley is ignoring the obstruction of witnesses being withheld from testifying. BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #77
and Val Demings calling it out. elleng Dec 2019 #84
Shelila Jackson-Lee just entered something into the record. BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #78
Val Demmings (D-FL) up BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #80
Demmings described the refusal of this President to allow witnesses to testify which is obstruction BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #85
finally! IcyPeas Dec 2019 #86
My thought exactly! blaze Dec 2019 #87
Demmings also quoted Sondland's testimony that EVERYONE was in the loop, crickets Dec 2019 #113
Demmings having Gephardt note that the refusal to comply with subponeas is what keeps BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #88
"Not until now" Mersky Dec 2019 #90
Ben Cline (R-VA) up BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #91
and demeaning the scholars IcyPeas Dec 2019 #92
Oh, look, he's basking in being on the teevee. Mersky Dec 2019 #95
His fifteen minutes of fame PatSeg Dec 2019 #120
Yeah, he might have gotten 30 more if he'd stood up Mersky Dec 2019 #125
I'm not holding my breath! PatSeg Dec 2019 #126
Lol. Neither am I. Mersky Dec 2019 #127
Talking about process..and whining like his leader n/t hibbing Dec 2019 #97
wish I could a have sip ot their fantasy juice Marthe48 Dec 2019 #107
He's now talking about the portraits on the wall in the hearing room supposedly BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #94
Where? In the gallery? Mersky Dec 2019 #102
He was sitting in the chairs a few rows behind the witness table. BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #104
SOMEONE PLEASE TEAR INTO tuRLEY before this is over Iwasthere Dec 2019 #96
Cline is more worried Karma13612 Dec 2019 #98
Wow, the GOP's B-team is pretty thin on talent. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2019 #99
Dude, keep up. C_U_L8R Dec 2019 #100
Cline just yielded his time to Ratfucker - and his time expired BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #103
cline had all the impact of a reduced sodium saltine. Mersky Dec 2019 #105
Beautiful post n/t hibbing Dec 2019 #112
Lou Correa (D-CA) up BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #106
Glad he's putting it in the record backtoblue Dec 2019 #111
Yup and you are welcome. Just posted! BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #118
Correa having the witnesses clarify about the duty to comply with Congressional requests BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #108
Kelly Armstrong (R-ND) up BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #114
Kelly Armstrong -- no blackmail, no quid pro quo, no pressure, no leverage -- weak. Gym's up ancianita Dec 2019 #119
****Live Impeachment hearing - THREAD 7**** up BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #116
SCREEEECHING Gym Jacketoff again Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #121
Ack!!!!!!!! It's Gym Jordan foaming at the mouth. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2019 #122
I wish Karlan would say to Jimmy. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #123

PatSeg

(47,482 posts)
6. This hearing
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:33 PM
Dec 2019

seems to be primarily monologues with very few questions for the witnesses. Even the Democrats are doing it. Too much show and not enough substance. Started out pretty good though.

BumRushDaShow

(129,061 posts)
11. I believe that every Dem has asked a question or more to the witnesses
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:38 PM
Dec 2019

Most of the Republicans have not with a few exceptions directed to Turley only.

PatSeg

(47,482 posts)
28. The republicans more so than the Democrats
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:47 PM
Dec 2019

but even some Democrats did more talking than questioning. I don't think there was much more to ask these witnesses after the first hour though. Probably could have wrapped it up in half the time.

BumRushDaShow

(129,061 posts)
33. These are the 5 minute sessions
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:50 PM
Dec 2019

They have been making a statement and then have asked the witnesses to define certain concepts that surround "impeachment" and various "impeachable" offenses.

The main questioning generally came at the beginning with the 2, 45-minutes sessions from the Chair/Ranking member and their counsels.

PatSeg

(47,482 posts)
82. Then that's why
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:12 PM
Dec 2019

the beginning was much more interesting. Now they're pretty much repeating themselves and putting on a show for the camera.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
8. Impeachment Spy? See pics. Who is this person?
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:36 PM
Dec 2019

Impeachment Spy? See pics

Is the public audience allowed to bring cell phones or cameras into the hearing room?

Just after the House Judiciary Hearing broke for House Votes, I noticed this red shoes, red scarfed young woman approach the Democratic Representatives seating area with what appears to be her cell phone poised for picture taking.

She pauses & seemingly looks at her phone with her thumb in pic taking position.

She then slowly turns and walks towards a tall young man with glasses. He seemingly moves in concert with the direction she walks to remain in front of her.

As she is seen leaving, the phone in her left hand is replaced with her small clutch hand bag.

This scene can be viewed just after the hearing break or 1:35PM according to MSNBC screen time viewed in MST location

Look for yourselves in these pics. Better yet, watch the whole scene




PatSeg

(47,482 posts)
40. Not a single one
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:53 PM
Dec 2019

Though he did attack the witnesses without giving them a chance to respond. Schiff usually gave the witnesses an opportunity to respond after a republican criticized a witness.

Mersky

(4,982 posts)
16. People aren't concerned about the use of 'royal wee'
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:40 PM
Dec 2019

We’re more concerned about the use of rushin’ pee. And how far tRump is willing to go to coverup any such proverbial ‘tape’.

Hope that simplifies things for biggs.

BumRushDaShow

(129,061 posts)
17. Ted Lieu describing how "impeachment" is not a criminal process but is a "civil process"
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:41 PM
Dec 2019

and has nothing to do with putting the President "in prison" which could be the result of a regular criminal proceeding.

BumRushDaShow

(129,061 posts)
21. Tom McClintock (R-CA) up
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:45 PM
Dec 2019

and illegally asking the witnesses who they voted for in the election and Karlan objected strenuously.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
25. They forced them to answer a Never-Trumper question
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:46 PM
Dec 2019

They are saying if you aren't with Trump, you are against the country!

crickets

(25,981 posts)
30. Yes! This is why he wanted to ask the question.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:48 PM
Dec 2019

Feldman insisted that not raising their hands was no indication of how they voted, but I don't know how many people heard him.

That was some slimy maneuvering there. No bar too low.

Marthe48

(16,963 posts)
31. where does mcclintock (a**hole, Ca)
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:49 PM
Dec 2019

get off asking people who they voted for. JC, no one has to say how they voted. It is a right to keep it private. He's another dick who doesn't know the law, and therefore is unfit to hold elected office.

Mersky

(4,982 posts)
36. I'd bet a number of the republicans on the committee
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:51 PM
Dec 2019

Didn’t vote for tRump in 2016. Since it’s documented many are willing to lie before Congress while in Congress, it can be assumed they wouldn’t answer that question honestly - if it was a fair question to ask, which it isn’t.

Is another stupid and low angle from the pResident’s protectors.

marlakay

(11,470 posts)
45. They have all been told they will be
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:56 PM
Dec 2019

Primaried with a ton of money going to other person on Trumps side.

They will give up soul to keep their jobs and future jobs in republican arena.

Mersky

(4,982 posts)
128. Yeah, it was such a pitch in the dirt
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 07:57 PM
Dec 2019

Was such a stupid thing to ask. I mean, the Democrats have more decorum than to ask that of any witness or member. The repug asking the question did so, and not rhetorically by form, but probably was by intent, as they knew it would be stricken from the questioning. Just unfair and gross.

BumRushDaShow

(129,061 posts)
43. Debbie Lesko (R-AZ) up
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:55 PM
Dec 2019

and she put into the record a written request to cancel any further impeachment hearings.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
49. She wants her personal letter to Nadler/the J Committee
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:58 PM
Dec 2019

requesting cancellation of all future impeachment hearings added to the record. Allrighty then.

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
93. Well fuck, when I was 7 and slept over with a friend who had TV
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:18 PM
Dec 2019

I kinda dug that show. My mother was a human fuckhead, I would have preferred a car Mom.

malaise

(269,024 posts)
50. The fact is that he shoudl have been impeached for stealing the 2016 elections
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:58 PM
Dec 2019

with help from the Russians

PatSeg

(47,482 posts)
74. Too many speeches
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:10 PM
Dec 2019

and not enough questions. Its an opportunity for seldom seen representatives to be on camera and they are all performing. Really boring and redundant.

woodsprite

(11,916 posts)
52. Everytime a repub speaks, I just feel like slapping them silly.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:58 PM
Dec 2019

I have not heard a single repub that was worthy of time spent listening to them. I'm sure I'm not the only DUer that feels that way.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
56. The Republicans seem to be flopping once again
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:59 PM
Dec 2019

They sure are stuck on the same stupid strategy. Three prong or whatever. It’s as if they believe yelling falsehoods will make them magically true. Idiots. Corrupt idiots.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
62. Lesko is pretending we have a transcript of the call instead of a heavily edited memorandum,
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:02 PM
Dec 2019

and that everyone has not already agreed through testimony that Burisma meant Biden.

dchill

(38,502 posts)
65. She's pretending that there's nothing to see here.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:05 PM
Dec 2019

They're all pretending that Trumpshit tastes good.

BumRushDaShow

(129,061 posts)
67. Guy Reschenthaler (R-PA) up
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:06 PM
Dec 2019

and was quoting earlier comments by Pelosi about going down the road to "impeachment".

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
110. We call him Guy Smiley here in his district. He's an idiot and always has
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:25 PM
Dec 2019

that stupid grin plastered across his face.

dchill

(38,502 posts)
115. I'd never heard of him, but that particular kind of smile...
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:28 PM
Dec 2019

...is something I always recognize. Small time crook.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
79. Mixing her words with his lies. *sigh* The tactic gets old.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:11 PM
Dec 2019

I have a probably stupid question - why is it that Republicans are allowed to repeat obviously fallacious statements, over and over again, having them put on the record with no repercussions? They know outright that some of the things they are saying are lies. How is that allowed?

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
75. So sick of this whole
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:10 PM
Dec 2019

“It must be bipartisan”.

That would be fine back when it was country over party.

We have proven that our Federal Government is now completely partisan among elected officials.


dchill

(38,502 posts)
81. "Bipartisan" is impossible with one whole party on the take.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:12 PM
Dec 2019

I think they're turning Putinese, I really think so!

PatSeg

(47,482 posts)
89. Whenever republicans talk about bipartisan
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:16 PM
Dec 2019

or working together or compromising, what they mean is: "Its my way or the highway". It was like that throughout the Obama administration. Republicans wouldn't work with Democrats even when they agreed with them.

Mersky

(4,982 posts)
76. lesko's reasoning might have worked IF
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:10 PM
Dec 2019

tRump’s base represented a majority of the electorate. Instead, it’s roughly 20% tearing at the greater 80%. And if republicans had the courage to call his bluff, then we wouldn’t have to put up with hearing lesko’s empty analysis.

And, I appreciated being reminded of Nadler’s three pronged test from the end of 2018. Months before barr submarined the Mueller report. I agreed with his test then, and I agree with it now.

BumRushDaShow

(129,061 posts)
85. Demmings described the refusal of this President to allow witnesses to testify which is obstruction
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:13 PM
Dec 2019

And had a chart on the screen for all who refused to testify or provide documents.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
113. Demmings also quoted Sondland's testimony that EVERYONE was in the loop,
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:26 PM
Dec 2019

demonstrating why Trump has ordered so many people not to testify and why he doesn't want to comply with the investigation. Love that she's back in this committee - her questions are always on point.

BumRushDaShow

(129,061 posts)
88. Demmings having Gephardt note that the refusal to comply with subponeas is what keeps
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:15 PM
Dec 2019

them from doing the "thorough investigation" that the GOP has been whining about not happening.

Mersky

(4,982 posts)
90. "Not until now"
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:17 PM
Dec 2019

Gerhardt’s answer to Demings question of whether any president has refused to comply with an impeachment inquiry.

Marthe48

(16,963 posts)
107. wish I could a have sip ot their fantasy juice
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:23 PM
Dec 2019

Denying truths in my life, ignoring facts, would be so pleasant.

It wouldn't make the truths lies, or the facts different though, would it?

BumRushDaShow

(129,061 posts)
94. He's now talking about the portraits on the wall in the hearing room supposedly
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:18 PM
Dec 2019

scaring members.

And MOO MOO IS IN THE ROOM.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
98. Cline is more worried
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:19 PM
Dec 2019

About the room they are in!

and he is complaining about getting a big report that he might have to read!

Lazy whiny repub babies.

and the reason there are no fact witnesses is because the republican *resident will not allow them to testify.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,838 posts)
99. Wow, the GOP's B-team is pretty thin on talent.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:20 PM
Dec 2019

The last few of them seem like they're wondering how to fill five minutes.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
100. Dude, keep up.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:20 PM
Dec 2019

For real. If government moves too fast for you, maybe you’re in the wrong line of work. But this whining is just unbecoming.

BumRushDaShow

(129,061 posts)
106. Lou Correa (D-CA) up
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:23 PM
Dec 2019

Asking Feldman about judge Jackson's opinion about the ridiculous absolute immunity arguments.

BumRushDaShow

(129,061 posts)
108. Correa having the witnesses clarify about the duty to comply with Congressional requests
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:25 PM
Dec 2019

-especially the President.

ancianita

(36,060 posts)
119. Kelly Armstrong -- no blackmail, no quid pro quo, no pressure, no leverage -- weak. Gym's up
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:30 PM
Dec 2019

with more of the same.

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