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So Trump wants to call Pelosi, Both Biden's and Schiff at his trial. (Original Post) slater71 Dec 2019 OP
Since Republicans run the senate, can they stop Dems from Cyrano Dec 2019 #1
After watching Rachel last night leftieNanner Dec 2019 #2
That will be up to the Chief Justice ... earthside Dec 2019 #3
No. The House Managers are the prosecutors ElementaryPenguin Dec 2019 #9
except that moscow mitch decides on the witness list.... getagrip_already Dec 2019 #4
I cannot see how calling any one of them would help him Srkdqltr Dec 2019 #5
Ultimate gaslighting... Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #6
Screw that. Let's demand Jr, Eric, and Ivanka tell us what hey know too NightWatcher Dec 2019 #7
How will Pelosi, Biden, and Schiff clear him? LiberalFighter Dec 2019 #8
He wants to ask Schiff why Schiff 'lied' about what he said in the July phone call. He's obsessed. Shrike47 Dec 2019 #10
None are relevant in the charges against Trump. kentuck Dec 2019 #11

leftieNanner

(15,149 posts)
2. After watching Rachel last night
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:49 AM
Dec 2019

It appears that we will have our own prosecutor - maybe Adam Schiff!!! - who may have some control of that. We shall see.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
3. That will be up to the Chief Justice ...
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:52 AM
Dec 2019

... I think, not the Senate Republicans.

I'd love to see the Trump defense call Schiff, that would be great for the prosecution (it won't ultimately happen).

And why would the Bidens be called? This isn't about them. Likewise Pelosi ... the Chief Justice would have to hear both sides on witnesses and for his own reputation he will want to be circumscribed and adhere to the rules.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
9. No. The House Managers are the prosecutors
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 12:47 PM
Dec 2019

The Senators are the jury. They can't decide who the Managers/Prosecutors can call.

The president is entitled to defense lawyers, who can call additional witnesses.

Any rulings that have to be made will not me made my Moscow Mitch, but by Chief Justice Roberts.

I'm not sure that Roberts wants to help Trump get off - because he will then effectively become Dictator for life (upon stealing his re-election) and there will be no use for a Supreme Court - or any legitimate courts at all.

getagrip_already

(14,837 posts)
4. except that moscow mitch decides on the witness list....
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:54 AM
Dec 2019

And the rules of questioning. And the time alotted for response and cross.

Sure, roberts is the judge, but in this process the defense team gets to call the shots with 51 votes. They can even over rule the judge.

In order to keep this to two weeks, they can't allow an extensive list of witnesses. Those they allow will be stacked just like turley.

It will be a chorus of what they want to see, hear, and say.

So expect whomever trump wants, and nobody we want.

Sure, the impeachment manager will get to make a presentation, but without witnesses, what will it matter?

And if schiff is called as a witness, he can't be the impeachment manager. Which is why they will call him.

Srkdqltr

(6,317 posts)
5. I cannot see how calling any one of them would help him
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 12:08 PM
Dec 2019

I wonder what questions would be asked? As it is a trial questions would have to be on topic. He won't be asking anyway. All bluster.

Wounded Bear

(58,709 posts)
6. Ultimate gaslighting...
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 12:13 PM
Dec 2019

1. Repubs won't do it, they know that those are all prosecution witnesses who will kill it under oath.

2. They won't actually demand this, but they'll scream bloody murder that they "weren't allowed" to call witnesses.

3. RW echo chamber will blare endlessly how "unfair" it all was.

4. They'll declare victory no matter what happens.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
10. He wants to ask Schiff why Schiff 'lied' about what he said in the July phone call. He's obsessed.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 01:07 PM
Dec 2019

Although Schiff said he was paraphrasing Trump, Trump keeps screaming Schiff lied about him, and puffing up with righteous indignation. He thinks about it a lot.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
11. None are relevant in the charges against Trump.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 03:30 PM
Dec 2019

"What aboutism" isn't relative in a trial.

Although it should be interesting to see how much control John Roberts exercises in the Senate trial?

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