I have water saving toilets and faucets in my home and the water pressure is just fine.

The rule or standard in my home is that Trump is a complete idiot who knows nothing about anything.

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definitely at least fifteen times

2) Close the lid before flushing to prevent the bacteria plume from spreading.
3) Don't clog the toilet with TP.

My exact 'rules'. I keep bathroom doors shut also. The last 47+ years of marriage at least. That added to what we both concur on.

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The food bowl and litter box are in the main room. Meanwhile the cat drinks from the bathroom faucet. There are separate doors to my bedroom and the bathroom off of the main room, and another door between my bedroom and the bathroom. If there was no cat, then all of the doors would be closed.

If I close the door he’ll scratch.

However, I moved to Costa Rica in Sept. Many men use the urinal with doors open in public bathrooms if it’s a one pot bathroom.
Also it is quite common on the interstate to see men peeing by the side of the road. Car stopped. Doors open.

I think Americans are more hung up on bathroom etiquette than other places.

At least we don’t squat over an open hole in the ground.

Than the Japanese.

They not only keep the door closed unless going in or out, and the seat down when not butt-planted, but they also wear separate slippers to go in the bathroom than what they wear in the rest of the house.

They also have the most awesome toilets, ever.

I knew they have cool toilets but didn’t know there was so much ceremony.

However, I would pee myself looking for the right slippers.

Thanks that was interesting.

The slippers are in the bathroom. You get out of your “house slippers” and step into the toilet slippers. Then when you leave you switch shoes, and leave the toilet slippers in the bathroom.

It’s considered disgusting for slippers used in a toilet room to touch any other room’s floor.

And if you think all that is crazy picky, don’t even ask about all the rules for using chopsticks. Mostly because chopsticks are part of a specific death ritual, and certain behaviors are indeed gross when you understand the associations to those rituals.

'Someone' had to come over the other day. Am selling husband's SUV and buddy of his needed a pitstop. Left the freaken seat up, left the door open...
I found it in that state later. Dogga daughter was crated so she don't fly out the door. What can you do. Damm.

Ima female El Exigente. A demanding one. I rule the fricken house. 👑 😆

I might have to go into hiding.

By now, some are well-designed. But the poorly deisgned ones that were installed when the regulations first came in have generally not been replaced because of expense - and there are new ones on the market that are disasters because of different poor design.

All of the toilets in the building I work in - which was largely rebuilt within the last 3 years - alternately refuse to flush (even liquid and small quantities {e.g. 5 squares} of toilet paper OR give me a free shower.

They are of the newer design that substitutes water pressure for gallons of water. They are made by one of the two most common toilet manufacturers in the US. The bowl is so poorly designed that the most common landing place for the toilet paper has a low enough angle that it doesn't roll down - but wet enough that the paper hits and sticks. So the blast of water intended to flush it all down rarely does. It nearly always takes me two flushes - and frequently 3 or 4. (And the number of times I find a partially flushed toilet when I go to use it suggests that it isn't just me.)

That same angle that sticks the toilet paper is apparently the perfect angle to spray water (and fecal matter) out of the toilet when there isn't paper stuck there (hence the shower). I have cleaned up droplets as far away as 3'.

So - the combination of using pressure to compensate for less wather & an incredibly poor design make this model (again - from one of the two primary companies manufacturing toilets in the US) not "work fine"

I've encountered many more of the early low water flush that are still in use - which also do not "work fine."

I'm holding onto my pre-regulation toilets - they will be pried ouf of my cold, dead hands. (We actually did replace one post-regulation and acquired it in secondary sale market.)

That said - I'm not suggesting that we should unwind the reglastions. I'm saying (1) many of them don't work fine and (2) manufacturers need to do a better job designing and testing the toilets before they put them on the market.

and toilets that require 3-4 flushes to get rid of toilet paper and pee. Gotcha.

The old fashioned toilets with their bigger flow masked the problem. I've been doing plumbing for close to 30 years and it's been extremely rare for a customer to have an issue with the lo-flow type.

It's not an issue with the plumbing - in this building, or in the many buildings in which lo-flow toilets are insufficient to flush even very light loads. It's the poor design of the original models which are still in use because people don't want to throw good money after bad to replace the toilets with another questionable lo-flow model.

People dont' generally spend money on a plumber when a second (third or fourth) flush will solve the problem - they just curse the toilet.

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The common denominator for all the toilets in that building is the drain-waste-vent (DWV) system. Fixing the drain-waste-vent (DWV) system can be cost prohibitive so the people in that building are confined to having to flush the toilet several times.

I put in 3 lo-flow toilets in my home when we remodeled it 9 years ago and have never had a problem with any of them. One flush does the job. Of course, I removed all the old drain-waste-vent piping and put in new so I know that's correct. I put in a lo-flow toilet in the small house 19 years ago and have never had trouble with it. Here in town my adult kids and extended family all have lo-flow toilets and they have no issues.

You've probably used a toilet at a gas station. Many have the same lo-flow toilets one may find in a home. Do you have problems flushing with them?

Edit: There are 5 gas stations within 20 miles of where I live and they all have residential lo-flow toilets in their restrooms (being a plumber, I notice these things) and they have no issues with them. Over the years, I've used them myself and haven't had a problem.

I have had poor experiences with them in many buildings since lo-flow models were first required. As I explained, the early models were very poorly designd - and many of those poor models are still in use because people don't replace toilets that frequently. It's not quite the same as buiding a poorly accessible building in the early years when accessibility was required that remains today becasue of the cost of replacing it- but it is similar.

I experience the pressure-assisted flow problems (i.e. fecal shower) in many commercial spaces - although it is more dramatic in this building - in approximately 10% of places that have modern multi-stalled facilities or - for example in newer gas stations. The iability to clear the bowl is more frequent in homes with earlier poorly designed systems (or in older buildings that have not remodeled since the earlier, less efficient models, were put in place).

"All of the toilets in the building I work in - which was largely rebuilt within the last 3 years - alternately refuse to flush (even liquid and small quantities {e.g. 5 squares} of toilet paper OR give me a free shower. "

Your comment:

"I experience the pressure-assisted flow problems (i.e. fecal shower) in many commercial spaces"

Many commercial buildings use a different type of toilet then found in residential homes. A tankless toilet is such an example. Larger commercial building operate at a higher water pressure then do small commercial buildings and residential homes. That would most likely explain the fecal shower you get and the fact you don't have a seat cover to lower to prevent a fecal shower leads me to believe you are talking about a different animal.

I texted my step-daughter who is the supervisor of the lab at the nearby hospital and asked her if there were any issues with flushing or splash back with the toilets at the hospital. Her first reply was "Wtf? and "LOL!"" and I responded by explaining the discussion I was having on line. She replied back saying that she never had a problem nor has she ever heard of a problem with the toilets there. She followed that up with another "LOL!"

The problem here is connected to a combination of two things. The bowl design which is not angled sufficiently for the paper to slide down into the bowl, an insufficiently long flow to get even a small quantity of paper moving (because of a blast with a limited quantity of water is very short). That same bowl design appears to be responsible for the fecal shower - because it appears to be angled just right as to the blast to make the blast bounce out. The former would be an issue in non-commercial settings since a lower volume without a pressure assist would not be likely to dislodge the paper sitting on a low-angle bowl. But - the lack of a (higher) pressure assistwould be less likely to bounce out.

As for your daughter's LOL, then she's lucky. The problem with these particular brand new toilets, in a completely replumbed building, has been reported to the maintenance staff numerous times, with no improvement.

It's incredibly unhealthy - especially since the cleaning staff rarely cleans the floors, the toilet seats, and never the doors and walls (where there are frequently visible drips running down). I don't know what anyone else has, but I have intransigent/recurrent c-diff, which has been active at least 3 times since we moved back into our building. I've used it to prompt officials to take it more seriously and find a solution, but even that hasn't worked.

I'm not a terrible germ-o-phobe, so I'm pitch in to clean up obvious messes pretty frequently to avoid spreading what either I, or anyone else, has. But my staff member just moves around the building to find the stall with the least obvious splatter.

The Resch Center in Green Bay and many other place.

the pre-regulation version. I like them. We have well water & a septic system that returns the water to the water table. So it is a far easier question for me than if I lived in the southwest for example.

I don't own the ones giving me trouble - and no one is likely to do a darn thing until they (meaning me & others with illnesses like the intransigent c dif) make someone ill because our poo is repeatedly splattered all over the walls, the tissue dispenser, the flush handle, the door handle, etc. And the cleaning crew doesn't. Clean, that is. Day 2 no towels. Fortunately I have a secret supply.

Flush count today: 3 pees - 7 flushes - fortunately no showers (fecal or otherwise).

Are you having trouble with a commercial grade toilet or a residential grade lo-flow toilet? Practically every toilet I've seen in a restroom at a small restaurant, convenience store and gas station are residential grade toilets and from what I can remember, all have seat covers The commercial grade toilets I see in big stores like Wal-Mart, Target, Lowes and also at hospitals, office buildings, airports and stadiums and do not have seat covers.

American Standard turlets.
Whoossh! 🚽 😆

One an original (laste 60s), the other replaced with a salvage from a tear-down or remodel.

It is a push button kind. One button for #1 and one for #2. Never a problem with flushing.

In fact the automatic flush is coming into fashion in stores now.

His addled brain has not come up with the language yet, but that is what he is getting at when this all flushes out. My bet, It has been talked about around him but he hasn't really wrapped his head around it. Someone in construction wants out of the regulations and this EPA will work to do that, but they need to let him make some big announcements about it for pr and that first one was a disaster. Needs to get his shit together even for an evil rollback of a regulation.

Hold handle down until complete flush.
Only toilet paper, pee pee, and human excrement (tRump excluded).
Wash hands before exiting.

That's where I dump my trump. I'm NOT going to let it out on the gol-dang floor!

(human excrement IS trump!)

Don the Con is scared so shitless that he has been spending an inordinate amount of time on his toilet seat. Now if only he'd do us all a favor and flush himself down

is if a comment, inquiry, edict, or observation comes from fat nixon?
i mentally flush it into the sewer where it belongs along with him..

piss on him

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N/T

Flush twice.

and thus, I won't even bother responding to this ridiculous garbage...

If it's brown, flush it down.

Yup, I used to see the posters all downtown when Jerry was running the last time. I miss Old Jerry. Hope he's having a nice retirement.

Many areas of California were in dire straights during the drought of 1976

Marin County has literally weeks worth of water in reserve until they built the emergency pipeline ON the Richmond San Rafael bridge.



Those were heady days and I subscribed to the philosophy, "Save water, shower with a friend"

I’m not using a toilet bowl filled with fermenting piss. At our house we flush, always.

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but I'm not into the whole wiping with leaves thing.

Our number one can be a holy mess when eliminating in the woods. If a wild animal sneaks up on us we run the fatal risk of entanglement in our clothes when we run.

This is my one concession to the superiority of the male body. It has a much better chance of exiting such encounters alive.

in my pocket... no way I'm going all the way into the house to use the toilet

Example:

LOL

Now what,lol.

Now what?

Good general purpose rule.

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Since our bathroom was too small contain a storage area for supplies, you made extra sure that it contained toilet paper before you got started, because if you didn't -- and had to crack open the door and call out for assistance -- you were serenaded with:

"Stranded
Stranded on the toilet bowl
What do you do when you're stranded
And you don't have a roll?"

(and the TV show it originated from!)

There was another part to it:

"Wherever you GO for the rest of your life,
You must CARRRRRY a ro-o-olll!"

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My dad used to make me sing that song every time I was stuck without tp

Will hopefully begin putting it together tomorrow. It'll be a backup in case we lose village water.

That's pretty much it.

You must be feeling better.

for #1 and whole flushes for #2?

I wonder if Melania has special rules for Donald's toileting habits, like, "Stay out of my bathroom."

In fact, never let him on the property...ever!

I have low-flow toilets that work just fine and do not require multiple flushes. The last time I had to flush 10x was when I had an awful case of food poisoning, and that was 10x in a whole day. But then, I don't live on KFC and Big Macs.

actually, years ago, we had a Siamese cat that did her liquid business in the upstairs toilet--only used the litterbox for solid stuff. So we couldn't close the lid, or she'd pee on a rug. Or a bedspread. So our rule was, leave the lid open, and don't flush while she's sitting on it!

Don't be a savage and try to lap up the water. Extend pinky while holding the straw.

LOL! Good to see!

Clean up after bad aiming at least annually.

If you stand up to pee, and your aim is bad, SIT THE FUCK DOWN!

...on the walls near the commode of a bathroom used primarily by the male of the species (one of the ones that detects pet stain does the trick).

My oldest son told me about this little trick, after a few visits by his father. You will be surprised and repelled by what you find! Errant piss doesn't just come from small children.

rise above the level of the seat.

wringing out your underwear in the bowl.

Always buy a new toilet instead. Be hygienic, and do this at least monthly. Have Larry from Craigslist install it if you don't know how to.

You'll damage the porcelain.

For reference when away from home, commit to memory the size of your head in case you have to take a measurement for comparison.

Common sense hygiene tip.

Use semi-gloss finish.

I had no idea this was a problem.

10-15?



But, if 10-15, I imagine it is chemicals + pipes snakeing time, you got some blockage somewhere and perhaps switch toilet paper brands and lighten up on the late night cheeseburgers?

Save our trees, and don't waste water.

Instead, keep a 5 gallon Home Depot bucket filled with Clorox next to the toilet.

Sit in bucket and gently soak buttocks for 5 minutes. Dry off with 220 grit sandpaper.

Change the Clorox every time you change your smoke alarm batteries.

when pooping during dinner parties.

And hotdogs on a bun, mustard only, nothing else.

Or Hank will kick your ass and you won't get the million dollars.

Rules 2 and 9 clearly contradict each other, AND they have to do with alcohol.

Fuck Hank.

And fuck Karl, too.

That's just to be sure to do it more than other people do for the purpose of status and acclaim.

It takes a lot of time, but so does fame.

n/t

Close the toilet seat lid. Leave house immediately and call 911 from neighbors phone.

But I do know that if it consistently took me 10 to 15 flushes as I've heard Trump complain, I would be seeing a doctor.

Shit is meant to be flushed down the toilet -- not to sit on the toilet tweeting crap.

Even tho I don’t know what the hell you mean!

...that 10 in binary = 2.

those who understand binary, and those who don't.

...college in 1969, I feel like I’m doing pretty good to remember this correctly (if I did).

Go upstairs to your own bathroom when you do that. Oh and flush. fer Christ's sake flush the toilet.

This is unforgivable.

Your TP must be a Möbius strip. Cosmic

unless you're in Australia 😁

dual flush toilets so I think I’m good no matter who is President.

Rule

She doesn't drink out of the bowl, but she just hates it when the lid is down. I don't know why.

They can't stand that either.

Plus she's fascinated by a flushing toilet. She's mesmerized by the swirling water. She's probably afraid of missing it if the lid is shut. You know the cat motto: "Can't risk not knowing."

The company I worked for 20 years ago was buying a family owned plumbing supply business in Connecticut. The brothers who owned it were retiring. These guys knew EVERYONE. One of them played handball or racquetball with KC Jones (Celtics coach) every week.

We were there to do an audit. Free lunch so the locals were bragging up the restaurant. No me can eat a whole meatball sub from this place. As a noted eater (in shape not gluttonous) I said " order me one". 3 meatballs the size of my fist. I got it down. They were impressed.

Riding back to the hotel with other members of the audit team. It's pouring raining. They were discussing what we were doing for dinner. I'm thinking GET ME TO THE HOTEL, we have a disturbance in the southern region.

I get to my room. ...... there's no way that's going down. Do I call down to the front desk for a plunger? Do I deny physics and give it a shot? I look around the bathroom and there it is - hotel provided shoe horn. Plastic. I wrap my hand in a towel, grab the shoe horn, and go to work. SUCCESS!

Now, what to do with the towel and the shoe horn? Like I said it was pouring rain. No one is out. So I slide open the door onto the 8" "balcony" ....look around.. and toss it.

The flight home was remarkable for another reason too but I won't go into that.