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extvbroadcaster

(343 posts)
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 07:45 PM Dec 2019

The old Obama birther play

On NBC news, they showed Trump running his old Obama birther play. He says Rudy is coming back from Ukraine, with "lots of stuff" - sound familiar? Remember when Trump claimed he sent private investigators to Hawaii after Obama's birth certificate and "They can't believe what they are finding." Turns out Trump never sent anybody and there was nothing to find. But Trump got the airtime. Same play here, Rudy will be back and he will have some crackpot theory that Trump's base will eat right up. Won't this nightmare ever end?

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Darwin2019

(217 posts)
2. I thought the Repubs thought it was the worst thing to get the Steele Dossier for a foreign country?
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 08:58 PM
Dec 2019

So when the Democrats and Hillary hired a consulting company to generate the Steele dossier it was terrible but it is OK for Rudy to so the same thing?

Karadeniz

(22,516 posts)
5. He's not smart enough to be creative. 2016, Rudy goes to NYC FBI with Clinton Cash and
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 10:35 PM
Dec 2019

Mounts an insurrection there...Comey reopens Hillary email scam & Trump campaign gets help from Russia, but won't blame them. 2020, Rudy goes to Ukraine to poison opponent, still won't blame Russia, gets GOP to protect him. Cheating worked the first time, so try it again.

wnylib

(21,465 posts)
6. As soon as I heard that Rudy was in Ukraine
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 10:48 PM
Dec 2019

I assumed that he was on a dirt collecting mission to use for the Senate trial.

The Senate will subpoena Joe and Hunter and Roberts will allow it. Even if Roberts rules them irrelevant to the charges, the Senate can override him with enough votes.

The 'dirt' that Rudy brings back will be intended to support their claim of corruption by the Bidens. I expect it will be coerced ststements from someone in Ukrsine. Or maybe false documents. The source of Rudy's 'proof' will need to be investigated, which takes time. Or maybe the source will be someone whose credibility is alresdy dubious.

The House manager (prosecutor) will need to refute whatever Rudy has gathered. The. House.most.likely is already anticipating this and getting prepared for it.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
7. Yup, that was the first think I thought of.
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 11:07 PM
Dec 2019

And people who want to believe it will do so no matter what the truth.

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