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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThom Hartman is really infuriating
When the R's bring up Hunter Biden, he always has to say (in so many words) "Well, Hunter kind of does have to explain himself"
Jesus, I want to scream at him!! Dude...do not breathe a WORD of acknowledgment to their "Hunter Biden did bad stuff too" distractions!! I do not get it. Whenever that name comes up, we all need to reply "Not talking about him. Now, back to trump's breathtaking wrongdoings".
dem4decades
(11,304 posts)Wednesdays
(17,412 posts)And please explain how it was criminal?
dem4decades
(11,304 posts)And if you don't think so why did Joe Biden say it wouldn't allow it to happen again? I'm not saying he did anything illegal however there should not have been be any appearance of a conflict of interest just for the reasons we are seeing today.
StarlightGold
(365 posts)we shouldn't even be acknowledging this now!
If HB was breathing in and out, the R's would jump on it.
What HB did is neither here nor there.
The subject is what trump did, period.
Now, BACK to discussing what trump did...
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)dem4decades
(11,304 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... as long as anyone else but I damn well know if the RussiaPublicans don't have something they'l MAKE IT UP !!!
damn ... we all know this, there's ... NOTHING ... a democrat can do that wont get made up by RussiaPublicans
Caliman73
(11,744 posts)This is a systemic issue and will continue to be a systemic issue. The powerful remain powerful because they establish connections and do each other favors. Just like regular people who maybe have a mechanic for a relative or some other advantage that other people might not have, except that these people are the leaders of countries or high up in government.
There is some concern that "it may appear" suspicious despite nothing wrong happening, or it may be obvious like with Trump and his kids who are dumber than bricks and whose dad clearly uses the public trust to advance his own, and their stupid schemes.
The reality in this situation however, is that the situation has been vetted and found to be nothing. By continuing to even acknowledge the situation while it is still ongoing, we do give air to the fake fire that the Republicans are trying to keep burning.
As other people have said, Republicans have no loyalty to truth or fact. They will take ANYTHING or MAKE UP things to attack us. We do not need to help them by, "let's take a look at the Bidens..." Remember they are still pushing the whole "Pizzagate" conspiracy that they made up out of nothing. Should we be concerned that Hillary and other top Democrats maybe just maybe are running a child prostitution and molestation ring out of the basement of a pizza parlor with no basement?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)power, bribery, extortion, using Congressionally approved funds improperly, etc.
Heck, trump's kids have used their dad's position for personal profit right in front of our eyes, and they've done it with the help and support of the orange buffoon.
dem4decades
(11,304 posts)sacto95834
(393 posts)but surely you all recognize this is what the electorate hates in politicians. The Republicans do it too. Yes, but that's not an excuse.
Biden has to come up with a better answer other than don't criticize my family or Hunter did nothing wrong. Else this issue won't go away. It's the optics that are terrible - Hunter who has struggled his life, from what I can tell, gets a great gig sitting on the Board of a Ukrainian gas company who has no expertise in the field. If Joe Biden never ran for office nobody would be talking about this, but here we are. I saw the Hunter interview and I truly felt for the guy. Such bad luck his dad decides to run for president, else his sitting on that board of directors would never make print.
You can say you don't care and it shouldn't be an issue as Hunter didn't commit a crime. But think about it, if (let's pick on Tiffany Trump who has the least exposure), Tiffany suddenly got the same gig as Hunter, I'm sure everyone on this board would be pointing a finger and we'd be right to do so - another politician's family member cashing in on the family name.
The_Counsel
(1,660 posts)Ive yet to hear a satisfactory answer.
He was on the Board of Directors at Burisma. So?
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,487 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,118 posts)He doesn't have to explain anything to anyone. He can work for any company he wants.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)brush
(53,894 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,022 posts)they want eyeballs, ears, audiences. they will report what is convenient for them to report - they will play the audience, they will always look to enlarge their audience - it is about ads, money and income. We are in a for-profit news industry period. I implicitly trust NONE of them. There is an agenda behind every one of them.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)He pushed Bernie after he was out of it and contributed to the Bernie or bust movement.
He has been compromised and should not be on progressive radio.
still_one
(92,422 posts)Liberal In Texas
(13,580 posts)Not just after he ended the "Big Picture" show.
What do you mean he contributed to it? Gave money?
He supported Hillary 100% after the convention.
I don't like that he was airing a show on RT, but I think he realized around the election in '16 he needed to bail.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)I recall him saying that the idea of Russian interference was a conspiracy theory.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,487 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,301 posts)which I thought was mighty white of him.
PSPS
(13,618 posts)maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)Corporate boards are patronage positions. Biden accepted the position to give credence to the anti-corruption efforts there.
Who else is on Burisma's board?
The ex-President of Poland, Aleksander Kwaśniewski
Joseph Cofer Black, Bush counterterrorism "ambassador" and CIA official
If someone asked YOU to be on a corporate board an get compensated a couple hundred a year, you'd do it.
Chelsea Clinton is on Expedia's Board.
And this:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-congressional-board-pay/
Wounded Bear
(58,721 posts)at one time he spouted some progressive views, but in reality he was always for protectionist trade policies from the 18th Century.
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)Ivanka and her trademarks.
Catherine Vincent
(34,491 posts)I think he's trying to appease his right wing listeners.