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StarlightGold

(365 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:21 PM Dec 2019

Thom Hartman is really infuriating

When the R's bring up Hunter Biden, he always has to say (in so many words) "Well, Hunter kind of does have to explain himself"
Jesus, I want to scream at him!! Dude...do not breathe a WORD of acknowledgment to their "Hunter Biden did bad stuff too" distractions!! I do not get it. Whenever that name comes up, we all need to reply "Not talking about him. Now, back to trump's breathtaking wrongdoings".

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Thom Hartman is really infuriating (Original Post) StarlightGold Dec 2019 OP
Well screw Hunter Biden for letting them have this narrative. dem4decades Dec 2019 #1
Just what did Hunter Biden do? Wednesdays Dec 2019 #9
His father was the lead US official dealing with Ukraine. He should have stayed away from there. dem4decades Dec 2019 #10
Once again, StarlightGold Dec 2019 #13
Bullshit, you're repeating RW talking points to a T !! uponit7771 Dec 2019 #15
I've been a Democrat since before Carter, I can't be pissed that I have to hear them use this? dem4decades Dec 2019 #20
Cause they're not going to make up something to use !?!!? Really?! I've not been politically aware a uponit7771 Dec 2019 #21
Certainly you can. Caliman73 Dec 2019 #28
I tend to agree. It just doesn't look good. But, that does not absolve trump's admin from abusing Hoyt Dec 2019 #24
I'm not disagreeing with you. Trump must be impeached. dem4decades Dec 2019 #25
Technically Hunter didn't do anything wrong... sacto95834 Dec 2019 #32
I've Been Asking This Question Since Friday. The_Counsel Dec 2019 #11
Riiiiiiiiiight, Republicans have ... NEVER ... made up a narrative before 🙄 uponit7771 Dec 2019 #14
Interesting post. Kingofalldems Dec 2019 #2
Hunter Biden is a private citizen Johnny2X2X Dec 2019 #3
+1, this should be all Biden's position uponit7771 Dec 2019 #16
And that parents don't control what their grown children do. brush Dec 2019 #22
👍🏼 uponit7771 Dec 2019 #31
don't forget that every single one of these people are in it for the money. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2019 #4
Hartmann took money from RT the Soviet propaganda network in 2014-2016 NightWatcher Dec 2019 #5
Yup. still_one Dec 2019 #6
He had Bernie on his show every week for years Liberal In Texas Dec 2019 #17
After the election get the red out Dec 2019 #29
Does he still work for RT? backscatter712 Dec 2019 #7
And now it's brought up right here. Kingofalldems Dec 2019 #8
I dislike him too. His previous association with RT told me all I need to know. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #12
I stopped watching when he kept trying to promote swapping birthright citizenship to get tariffs MurrayDelph Dec 2019 #30
"Thom" is a charlatan. Has long-time ties through RT to kremlin money. PSPS Dec 2019 #18
Hunter Biden didn't do anything that 100s of other politicians do every day. maxsolomon Dec 2019 #19
Mr Hartman has turned into a media ratings whore... Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #23
Turned him off after his RT show. MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #26
When they say Hunter Biden, we should retort with muntrv Dec 2019 #27
Yes, he does Catherine Vincent Dec 2019 #33

dem4decades

(11,304 posts)
10. His father was the lead US official dealing with Ukraine. He should have stayed away from there.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:36 PM
Dec 2019

And if you don't think so why did Joe Biden say it wouldn't allow it to happen again? I'm not saying he did anything illegal however there should not have been be any appearance of a conflict of interest just for the reasons we are seeing today.

StarlightGold

(365 posts)
13. Once again,
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:43 PM
Dec 2019

we shouldn't even be acknowledging this now!

If HB was breathing in and out, the R's would jump on it.

What HB did is neither here nor there.

The subject is what trump did, period.

Now, BACK to discussing what trump did...

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
21. Cause they're not going to make up something to use !?!!? Really?! I've not been politically aware a
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 02:02 PM
Dec 2019

... as long as anyone else but I damn well know if the RussiaPublicans don't have something they'l MAKE IT UP !!!

damn ... we all know this, there's ... NOTHING ... a democrat can do that wont get made up by RussiaPublicans

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
28. Certainly you can.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 02:22 PM
Dec 2019

This is a systemic issue and will continue to be a systemic issue. The powerful remain powerful because they establish connections and do each other favors. Just like regular people who maybe have a mechanic for a relative or some other advantage that other people might not have, except that these people are the leaders of countries or high up in government.

There is some concern that "it may appear" suspicious despite nothing wrong happening, or it may be obvious like with Trump and his kids who are dumber than bricks and whose dad clearly uses the public trust to advance his own, and their stupid schemes.

The reality in this situation however, is that the situation has been vetted and found to be nothing. By continuing to even acknowledge the situation while it is still ongoing, we do give air to the fake fire that the Republicans are trying to keep burning.

As other people have said, Republicans have no loyalty to truth or fact. They will take ANYTHING or MAKE UP things to attack us. We do not need to help them by, "let's take a look at the Bidens..." Remember they are still pushing the whole "Pizzagate" conspiracy that they made up out of nothing. Should we be concerned that Hillary and other top Democrats maybe just maybe are running a child prostitution and molestation ring out of the basement of a pizza parlor with no basement?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
24. I tend to agree. It just doesn't look good. But, that does not absolve trump's admin from abusing
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 02:12 PM
Dec 2019

power, bribery, extortion, using Congressionally approved funds improperly, etc.

Heck, trump's kids have used their dad's position for personal profit right in front of our eyes, and they've done it with the help and support of the orange buffoon.

sacto95834

(393 posts)
32. Technically Hunter didn't do anything wrong...
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 07:19 PM
Dec 2019

but surely you all recognize this is what the electorate hates in politicians. The Republicans do it too. Yes, but that's not an excuse.

Biden has to come up with a better answer other than don't criticize my family or Hunter did nothing wrong. Else this issue won't go away. It's the optics that are terrible - Hunter who has struggled his life, from what I can tell, gets a great gig sitting on the Board of a Ukrainian gas company who has no expertise in the field. If Joe Biden never ran for office nobody would be talking about this, but here we are. I saw the Hunter interview and I truly felt for the guy. Such bad luck his dad decides to run for president, else his sitting on that board of directors would never make print.

You can say you don't care and it shouldn't be an issue as Hunter didn't commit a crime. But think about it, if (let's pick on Tiffany Trump who has the least exposure), Tiffany suddenly got the same gig as Hunter, I'm sure everyone on this board would be pointing a finger and we'd be right to do so - another politician's family member cashing in on the family name.

The_Counsel

(1,660 posts)
11. I've Been Asking This Question Since Friday.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:38 PM
Dec 2019

I’ve yet to hear a satisfactory answer.

He was on the Board of Directors at Burisma. So?

Johnny2X2X

(19,118 posts)
3. Hunter Biden is a private citizen
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:25 PM
Dec 2019

He doesn't have to explain anything to anyone. He can work for any company he wants.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,022 posts)
4. don't forget that every single one of these people are in it for the money.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:26 PM
Dec 2019

they want eyeballs, ears, audiences. they will report what is convenient for them to report - they will play the audience, they will always look to enlarge their audience - it is about ads, money and income. We are in a for-profit news industry period. I implicitly trust NONE of them. There is an agenda behind every one of them.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. Hartmann took money from RT the Soviet propaganda network in 2014-2016
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:27 PM
Dec 2019

He pushed Bernie after he was out of it and contributed to the Bernie or bust movement.

He has been compromised and should not be on progressive radio.

Liberal In Texas

(13,580 posts)
17. He had Bernie on his show every week for years
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:50 PM
Dec 2019

Not just after he ended the "Big Picture" show.
What do you mean he contributed to it? Gave money?
He supported Hillary 100% after the convention.

I don't like that he was airing a show on RT, but I think he realized around the election in '16 he needed to bail.

MurrayDelph

(5,301 posts)
30. I stopped watching when he kept trying to promote swapping birthright citizenship to get tariffs
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 04:24 PM
Dec 2019

which I thought was mighty white of him.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
19. Hunter Biden didn't do anything that 100s of other politicians do every day.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:54 PM
Dec 2019

Corporate boards are patronage positions. Biden accepted the position to give credence to the anti-corruption efforts there.

Who else is on Burisma's board?

The ex-President of Poland, Aleksander Kwaśniewski
Joseph Cofer Black, Bush counterterrorism "ambassador" and CIA official

If someone asked YOU to be on a corporate board an get compensated a couple hundred a year, you'd do it.

Chelsea Clinton is on Expedia's Board.

And this:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-congressional-board-pay/

Wounded Bear

(58,721 posts)
23. Mr Hartman has turned into a media ratings whore...
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 02:12 PM
Dec 2019

at one time he spouted some progressive views, but in reality he was always for protectionist trade policies from the 18th Century.

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