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applegrove

(118,773 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 08:26 PM Dec 2019

McConnell Plans For Acquittal Vote To Avoid A Possible Tie Or Close Call

McConnell Plans For Acquittal Vote To Avoid A Possible Tie Or Close Call

By Kate Riga at Talking Points Memo

December 12, 2019 9:12 a.m.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mcconnell-acquittal-vote-impeachment-senate

"SNIP.....

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) is planning to hold an acquittal vote to clear President Donald Trump of all charges rather than a simple-majority dismissal of the impeachment articles to avoid a possible tie or nail-biter conclusion.

According to CNN, the Constitution requires 67 votes to convict Trump and remove him from office. Republicans, with their 53-seat majority, are confident that Democrats would not be able to rustle up enough defections to make that result a real possibility.

And by going for acquittal, McConnell would avoid any possible complications that could arise from a dismissal vote, which only requires 51 votes. Due to the obvious conflict of interest, Vice President Mike Pence would be barred from tie-breaking in that situation. Instead, Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts would be called in to preside over the Senate trial, and any tied motions would fail.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) echoed this thinking to CNN, saying that it would make “more sense” to vote for acquittal or conviction than to “decide this on a 51-vote threshold, with the potential tie and all the recriminations that would flow from that.”

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McConnell Plans For Acquittal Vote To Avoid A Possible Tie Or Close Call (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2019 OP
Dems and the media need to stop calling what's being planned a "trial" right now. coti Dec 2019 #1
He sure as hell doesn't want to call witnesses. octoberlib Dec 2019 #2
That gives Moscow Mitch an entry in history that is uniquely his RainCaster Dec 2019 #3
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2019 #4
History is written by the victors. So said Churchill mucifer Dec 2019 #6
I thought Roberts would preside in any scenario. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2019 #5
Question Horizens Dec 2019 #7
Nothing, it takes 67 votes to remove him. coti Dec 2019 #8
Yes Horizens Dec 2019 #9

coti

(4,612 posts)
1. Dems and the media need to stop calling what's being planned a "trial" right now.
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 08:28 PM
Dec 2019

Gives it way too much legitimacy.

Need to come up with a proper name, something like the "kangaroo vote," or better.

RainCaster

(10,913 posts)
3. That gives Moscow Mitch an entry in history that is uniquely his
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 08:30 PM
Dec 2019

Yep, that sumbitch is going to sell our entire country to Russia for a small pitance. He will be remembered as the one who sold out America for a small personal reward.

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
7. Question
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 09:34 PM
Dec 2019

Suspend reality for a moment.

What would happen if (by some miracle) 51 senators voted "nay" (against acquittal)?

coti

(4,612 posts)
8. Nothing, it takes 67 votes to remove him.
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 09:36 PM
Dec 2019

Best not to think in terms of anything other than the Russ-publicans completely subverting the process, regardless.

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
9. Yes
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 10:29 PM
Dec 2019

I'm aware of that.

It would lead to an interesting (to say the least) situation.

We would be left with a president judged "not innocent" of high crimes and misdemeanors.

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