Shout about this from every roof top? The Senate can't be allowed to act like this. Its patently unconstitutional.

because the democrats keep trying to appeal to the centrust base, as opposed to making a counter brand. Stop trying tom revive the ghost of bill clinton america, we would need a heavier weight to the left to even hope of balancing this country , since the right deliberately broke the scale. The Democrats need to act like an opposition party that feeds it's base, rather than act like the step-parents that act like they have to act like the love the red headed step-child, but secretly hate him.

isn't a secret. It's entirely in the open.

Since he's such a huge figure it's worth looking at who he is. He seems to be almost soulless ideologically. He loves power and is determined to hold onto it and grow it, and critically important, has thrown in with what he believes will be the winning side. Our new kleptocracy/plutocracy.

Now, he IS using the fear and even hate of liberals that he's done his full share of inculcating in RW voters to divide the electorate. Greedy rich people clearly learned from their devastating losses of the 1930s New Deal era and planned to start with that a long time ago, certainly by the time they learned to use new mass advertising techniques on voters in the 1970s.

chasing the centrist voters is unreliable and reduces energy of the base wanting to vote.

perhaps the far left here could draft him into a leadership role.

Oh wait, they already have Bernie... and Warren,

You know... Obama was a "centrist" too, right? Wasn't just the Clintons.

the hatred of the "centrists" for anyone on the Left.

Thanks for illustrating that.

We get it. You guys don't want us in your party.

no where in my post is any hatred of the left.

I just don't want to nominate a far left candidate and lose to Trump.

AND I wanted to point out that Obama was a policy centrist as well... it wasn't JUST Bill Clinton (third way Democrat)... which is something that the left conveniently forgets.

that is disdain and hatred.

He is actually a terrible human being and by saying that you obliquely say that all people on the left are like him.

Wanting more than one step forward three back isn't wrong. I'll still end up voting for the candidate that promises tiny crumbs, if that is who is nominated, but I'm tired of watching my kids' future given away to corrupt billionaires.

There are many many posted videos and tweets by Bernie and his surrogates that show this.

Now Bernie and his supporters are trying very hard to distance themselves from Jeremy.

It's almost comical.

Obama was "one step forward and three steps back"? Seriously? The ACA was one of the most progressive agenda items passed since the 1960s.

Right now, Trump is trying to undo EVERYTHING that Obama did... and everything since before FDR and the new deal.

Right now... I want to stop Trump... and if getting some middle of the road voters to come out and vote for a "centrist" democrat makes that happen, then that's what we should do... it's going to be a close election. A few thousand votes may make an difference.

Everyone on the left will support our nominee... I am not worried about getting the left to vote for a Democrat. Even a Centrist. This will not be like 2000 and Al Gore. Nobody will say that Trump and Biden are the same thing...

gain some right leaning centrists and figure that the left has nowhere else to go, so it is great to treat them like that red-headed step child, because only centrists matter!

Never do anything bold, because the status quo is just fine.

The ACA was a first step.

I don't know if you are aware of this but a lot of people are still unable to access health care, because between enormous copays and out of pocket amounts, they can't afford that trip to the doctor.

Then, if they do get sick, insurance covers some, but there are still huge copays that end up with bankruptcy or just deciding not to hobble their families with massive medical debt, so they just don't seek treatment. Insurance is awesome, until you need more than a check-up.

The ideas of Sanders and Warren aren't all that far out there, but they do benefit human people, which I guess is just asking too much.

And again, I'll end up voting for whoever the nominee is, even if that person promises that nothing will change, that all wealth will continue to go exclusively to the top earners, because it's true: I've got nowhere else to go.

So, I guess you guys win. Eventually, maybe you'll have enough centrists to jettison us lefties for once and all.

Do you not know your left from your right?

do NOT have the support of the majority of US voters. I wonder because, at last count, ALL of the political policies promoted by candidates like Sanders and Warren are policies with which the majority of voters agree.

But we are subjected to the FRAMING of the issues most popular with the general population that somehow morph into "far-left" affairs. The framing of the issues emanate from two sources: the GOP/RW media and some "moderate" Democrats. Those moderate Democrats only want votes for themselves, so they long to create rhetorical distinctions within the Democratic Party that favor their own sect.

Health care premiums are still going up; medical debt bankruptcies are still going up. GOPers and Dem moderates have an answer: more of the same.

for fear of the reagan democrats is exactly why we lost in exactly those "blue wall" states we tried to woo. The whiote working class sees anythign soft as weak. If we really want to woo Michigan, we need the likes of Michael Moore and jennifer Granholm to remind the michigan votwers what the right DID TO THEm.

it is nuanced and more complex, let's be clear on that) on board.

I don't know if its a fear of change. A fear of losing their corporate donors. A fear of losing power. But there is this bubble the establishment Democrats live wherein they believe that voters in 2020 want a parent that loves everyone equally. And that tries to make all the children love them back equally. And that this is what voters respect. A party that curries favours. Works as a brokerage company to find the middle ground.

One problem is that there is no longer a "middle ground". In fact, Mitch and the Republicans, probably want to move the goalposts even further to the right. I'm sure he and the GOP leadership think the government is STILL TOO LEFTY. Too many checks and balances still. And that nasty left wing rag called the Constitution must be amended.

Democratic leadership needs to step out of the fog. They need to embrace the new young fierce attack dogs like AOC. No one saw the decline of American politics into a reality TV show.....but it has! You have to play the hand you are dealt, not some perfect hand you had in the old timey days when Republicans and also the news media, could be counted on to play fair and use factual information. Its an all out war. We need leadership that recognizes this new reality.

fierce attack dogs like AOC."

reliably. That's not the left, always threatening and sometimes actually, not voting when they don't get their way.

the way Hillary waited unti,k the very very last mom,ent to finally stop trying to take the election and embrace Obama?

There were a few Hillary supporters in 2008 that were mad, but not on the scale of Bernie people who to this day claim the DNC cheated him. No one claims Hillary is far to the left, at least not among those who use "centrist" as a perjorative.

More Hillary supporters in 2008 voted for McCain than there were Bernie defectors in 2016. I have forgotten the percentages, but they are available if you google them.

Many in states she didn't deem important enough to go to. I guess support from Bernie equates with loss. And yes, many independents who do not necessarily support Democratic candidates voted for Bernie.

It was due to a huge influx of independents voting for Bernie who were never going to vote for Hillary. Full stop. They were not Democratic party supporters, but rather cross-over voters. Cross-over voters are one of Bernie's strongest areas of support. That is why he does so much better in open primary states, and why he would be strong in the general election.

Don't vote for Bernie. When he's the nominee you can vote for Trump.

No matter who you vote for, it's important that we all vote.

I'm not on any high horse and I didn't mean to imply that you are not a regular committed voter.

I have no money and live on dramatically less than $10,00 per year which is why I live in Thailand. I can't afford to live in my country of birth. But I am a regular voter and I do feel it's important.

Peace back to you!

it should be that of FDR, not Bill Clinton -- That's what people like Elizabeth Warren are trying to do.

And Dems have had the benefit of Lakoff on our side but generally ignored the principle of framing a message and hammering it home.

Example: "transcript". Once the administration's frame hits the media, the chance is gone.

It was Karl Rove who totally used strategy in this regard.

Agreed.

After all the years of Fox News and Right Wing Radio, you'd think they'd be a tad more cognizant of the power of Messaging...I really don't get it

But I've been going back and forth between MSNBC and CNN. I'm sure Fox viewers will get a different spin.

does this Republican group give a whit about anything like the Rule of Law, or Constitution, or anything else for that matter.

Can you imagine, in the pretrial statements to the Jury, the Defense Attorney saying this??????

The Judge and I are in complete 100% collusion to direct this trial anyway both of us want to......We will say and do anything we want, call our select witnesses to speak, not allow the prosecutor to do anything but sit by and watch........

AND THE REAL CRUX OF THE MATTER IS THAT NO ONE CAN/WILL STOP THEM FROM PULLING OFF THIS TRAVESTY.

These assholes are fighting for their lives people.....If Trump goes down, the whole mess of them crash and burn also.......

They are "going for broke" as he old saying goes, they are "laying it all on the line". AND THEY WILL STOP AT NOTHING,

Katie Bar The Door, the next eleven months are going to be horrific and un-precedented by a long shot. And come November 3rd, and the next day, November 4th, the world will see something the likes of which they have never seen or imagined could happen. It doesn't matter who wins, it will be complete caous from then on in and it is going to be far from pretty.......

Exactly.

I pray our Democratic [Dem] representation staff is taking note of and considering every 'helpful household hint' that we here and other sources are putting forth.

that the Dems can be anywhere as mean, nasty, and horrific as the Republicans. They are genetically encoded to be that way, we are not......

I am not religious or I would say: "God help us"

WASF

Mb there's many who are expecting our side to respond in kind/fight fire with fire.

I'm believing for the God I am familiar with and Who I feel I 'know' to make the present crooked way straight, separate the wheat from the chaff, and render justice deserved by the workers of iniquity.

Disclaimer: Not of Evangelical, any denomination of Protestant or Roman Catholic tradition of faith. Not that there is always something wrong with those. I'm just NOT of them.

If there truly is a god, she better make her presence known right now.........

For starters, she can wipe all these so called "Christian Republicans" off the face of this planet for their hypocrisy.......

and I have mine. Mine what keeps me from falling apart at the seams. He will work through His agents to bring about a resolution.

for the evil deeds of Republicans.

call it gaslighting.......

Common phrase of battering men: "If you didn't do this, I wouldn't have to beat you......"

will merely issue one of his half assed presidential orders and force the house to send it, because the are impeding the investigation...LOL and Sarcasm and Hypocrisy......

tRump more as a dictator. They're trying to take the US to a very dark place. Sadly, IMO, we have a lot of nincompoops in the US that keep people like this in power. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime in the US.

You have every right to be frightened.....be afraid, be very afraid......

All of us are about to witness the absolute reality of the phrase: "Hell on Earth"......

WASF

in the service of Vladimir Putin

some secretive "back channel" means of talking directly to Putin and his henchmen.......

lead to Putin, his ass needs to go too. Mafia syndicate, tRump wishes to be in the club.

Ostensibly, people get a choice, but the dominating power manages it so they will never be in any actual danger.

Google Vladislav Surkov. He's a master at it.

Surreal Heart of the New Russia and he features quite heavily in the book.

I now desperately want to read it.

what it sounds like you are saying. Sarah Kendzior and Andrea Chalupa have referred to it a few times on Gaslit Nation. The author is Peter Pomerantsev.
I am listening on Audible.

It is as I understand it be regarded it to be a meaningless term and contradictory and really without any real meaning. A piece of propaganda double speak. Not different from such terms as "Right to Work" which in reality means right to be exploited.

As an aside, Russia has a political party known as "Liberal Democrats" who are neither liberal nor democratic. They're a far-right nationalistic party lead by firebrand Vladimir Zhirinovsky that basically exists solely for the purpose of giving the illusion that Putin has a political opposition.

There is NOT a fucking thing ANYBODY can do about it! Seems like VOTING this fucker (tRUMP) out is the ONLY way to get rid of him! Edit to add will Roberts see this as OBSTRUCTION?

times in the US. It's sad, I see a democracy purposely crumbling if this continues.

We are about to witness the obliteration of our beloved Democracy.........

WASF

because Wray, Comey, Coats, Mueller all told us UNDER OATH the election is being rigged "as we sit here".

Rigging the election is way too easy. All it takes is for several states' tallies to be "botched" (meaning hacked somehow) and then referred to SCOTUS for resolution.

That's it.

Cuz it sure looks like it from the cheap seats. Above the law, below the law and sideways of the law!

DU spanked me for not using ******'s.........

What happens if there's a law but the officer refuses to enforce it?
What happens if there's an arrest but the judge refuses to hold a trial?

This. This happens. They never cared about "democracy" or "the republic". Ever. It's about power. It's always about power. And they'll do anything to maintain it.

Everything they said was sacred is not sacred to them.

All to retain white majority rule.

countries / international relations.

Historians will bookmark this trail as the end of representative government and the beginning of days reminiscent of Roman empirical rule. The so-called trial will effectively end checks and balances - or at the least - severely weaken both the House and the Senate.

days reminiscent of Roman empirical rule." It damn well appears ending Checks and Balances is the top priority of the GOP. This will eventually lead to so much civil unrest that the US will not be very pleasant for most.

Don't even THINK about what is going to take place here in the U.S. on November 4th.......

WASF

What's going to stop them from looting our SS if Chump wins 2020? That is THE golden ring. As we've seen at the border, they do not care if people die!

strike... I feel at least one coming on.

this GOP and many outright hate tRump.

There may be more interest than we are being told about. I'm sure not going to fall prey to the misinformation program. I do plan on spending a bit of time in the streets as the marches gain and grow. It starts now.

1. General strike.

government all of the GOP wants. I think many are just damn fearful of the asshole in the WH.

MSM is the conduit, as long as they are more concerned about whataboutism and the appearance of being unbiased, even in the face of Fascism - what the F%^& are we to do??

you are forgetting that 80+ % of all U.S. media is owned by Republican Corporations. Print, Network TV, Cable, Radio, and ALL of Rightwing's Hate Radio........

But much of the "mainstream media" is the face if fascism!

the senate until the American people can be assured of a fair trial.

to alert the public.

The whole country will already be watching the impeachment vote. She can do it then, also pointing out that the country does not want the show trial that Trump and the GOP would like to have.

Words just fail me -- a not unusual occurrence in the Time of Trump.

...to play lip service to checks and balances.

the fix is in and it will be check-mate the second it hits the Republican Senate........

Seems like a no brainer to me

Watch out for all the investigations of Democrats that he thinks wronged him. He’ll try to clean house, another action of a dictator.

what will take place on November 4th, regardless of the outcome of the night before.........you should too.......

Definition: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority

Silly me, the one to enforce that would be Barr, and he is part of their infinite "daisy chain"

as a"citizen" to make a deal if he won, and then the cabal with Reagan, and then both Bush's and the one getting appointed by the cabal in right wing supreme court, and now the country is seeing this right out in the open.........................and leader of one branch of the Congress basically just making a pack to get someone off prior to the "trial".....................yea, I think it's sedition, this time its without guns

I'm looking forward to how this plays out.

The GOP will be a complete clown show.

Voters of Kentucky ???????

they soon will be! Moscow Mitch won't take any chance of losing his seat.

won't take any chance of Mitch losing his seat.....Neither will Mitch's wife's parents who are Chinese Oligarchs.
They too shoved mucho money thru to him under the Citizens United supreme court decision........