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Hallmark CEO apologizes. Boycotts work. (Original Post) dewsgirl Dec 2019 OP
I refused to even click on any of their channels. Iliyah Dec 2019 #1
One million moms is a hate group, they were behind it. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #2
And they are a fairly small group, too--maybe a few thousand at the most. tblue37 Dec 2019 #5
Did not know that, makes sense. Hatred of the LGBTQ community is a full time job for some. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #7
26K Nowhere near 1 Million TexasBushwhacker Dec 2019 #18
Just like the "Moral Majority" of Ye Olden Days Grokenstein Dec 2019 #33
As I said last night One Million Moms can go eat one million bags of shit. Initech Dec 2019 #8
I like it...I like it VERY much Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #11
One Million Moms is a front group of the American Family Association. hunter Dec 2019 #15
Ahh yes, know all about them, forgot they were the same. AFA is one of the most vile Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #16
These are the same kooks who bullied grocery chains into refusing to carry Schweddy Balls GoCubsGo Dec 2019 #21
Wait...back up a sec..Scweddy Balls was an actual product? dewsgirl Dec 2019 #45
Just an ice cream flavor. GoCubsGo Dec 2019 #53
My wife & daughter HAD been watching lots of Hallmark drivel RainCaster Dec 2019 #3
Well, they've reversed their decision and allowing the ad. cwydro Dec 2019 #23
According to NBC News, the company has pulled their ads RainCaster Dec 2019 #42
I don't watch Hallmark Channel... Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #4
I record Cheers and Frazier from it BigmanPigman Dec 2019 #19
Yikes, very unrealistic in this day and age. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #46
they made it right......... Takket Dec 2019 #6
Agonized? SCVDem Dec 2019 #38
Hey it's Winnie.❤ dewsgirl Dec 2019 #47
They did the same thing after people complained it was too white... helpisontheway Dec 2019 #9
They are being forced to change KentuckyWoman Dec 2019 #10
First Chik f lay now this!1 UTUSN Dec 2019 #12
I never understood why they pulled it. xmas74 Dec 2019 #13
Did they not understand? Olafjoy Dec 2019 #14
There wasn't time for a boycott to work, come on now. cwydro Dec 2019 #24
People were threatening to not even shop at their stores.. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #48
I'm sure the threat played into it, absolutely. cwydro Dec 2019 #54
The actual boycott that worked came from the advertiser. GoCubsGo Dec 2019 #17
No surprise there. $$$$$$$ is the root of all evil and the GOP. BigmanPigman Dec 2019 #22
I really hate that channel. Kath2 Dec 2019 #20
Why do you watch it? cwydro Dec 2019 #25
I do not watch it. Kath2 Dec 2019 #35
funny how people will never miss an opportunity Nature Man Dec 2019 #43
Yay! My sternly-worded email was helpful! OMGWTF Dec 2019 #26
lol n/t orleans Dec 2019 #30
LoL dewsgirl Dec 2019 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #27
screw them orleans Dec 2019 #28
first chik fil a DonCoquixote Dec 2019 #29
Now they've pissed off everyone Boomer Dec 2019 #31
When folks started talking about a boycott, I thought I don't dewsgirl Dec 2019 #50
The total arrogance and ignorance of evangelical so called christians.... Chicago1980 Dec 2019 #32
two chicks kissing is wrong... Aussie105 Dec 2019 #36
These are the same assholes, that secretly live for woman dewsgirl Dec 2019 #51
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author JohnnyRingo Dec 2019 #37
Schmaltz! SCVDem Dec 2019 #39
The boycott never made sense anyway... liberalguilt57 Dec 2019 #40
Welcome Back to DU! RandiFan1290 Dec 2019 #44
What is the ad actually for? RhodeIslandOne Dec 2019 #41
Ahh, I didn't know that. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #52

Grokenstein

(5,727 posts)
33. Just like the "Moral Majority" of Ye Olden Days
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 12:03 AM
Dec 2019

They were neither moral nor a majority.
But boy howdy, the media loved to pretend otherwise!

hunter

(38,328 posts)
15. One Million Moms is a front group of the American Family Association.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:21 PM
Dec 2019

They're not going to hell, they're already there.

About the American Family Association, from the Southern Poverty Law Center:

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/american-family-association



Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
16. Ahh yes, know all about them, forgot they were the same. AFA is one of the most vile
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:27 PM
Dec 2019

groups on earth.

GoCubsGo

(32,094 posts)
21. These are the same kooks who bullied grocery chains into refusing to carry Schweddy Balls
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:34 PM
Dec 2019

ice cream by Ben and Jerry's. I REALLY wanted to try that one. They are vile. Just like their parent group.

GoCubsGo

(32,094 posts)
53. Just an ice cream flavor.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:25 AM
Dec 2019

Ben and Jerry's created a flavor and named it after the SNL skit. There are no actual "Schweddy balls" on the market, other than the ice cream flavor.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
23. Well, they've reversed their decision and allowing the ad.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:41 PM
Dec 2019

That’s a good thing.

I’ve never watched it and have no interest in it at all, but I’m glad they saw the light, so to speak.

Wounded Bear

(58,713 posts)
4. I don't watch Hallmark Channel...
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 10:13 PM
Dec 2019

They call it a channel for women. Seems to me that probably 15% or more of their target audience is probably G/L.

Kind of a silly move to me.

BigmanPigman

(51,629 posts)
19. I record Cheers and Frazier from it
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:31 PM
Dec 2019

but now they have 4 months of Christmas shows. They are so conservative they even bleap out words like "damn". I think they want to turn the clock back to the 1950s.

Takket

(21,629 posts)
6. they made it right.........
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 10:16 PM
Dec 2019

Hopefully whatever buffoon made this decision that caused this MASSIVE and completely self-inflicted shitstorm for them is shown the door.

Why in the world they didn't see this coming is mind blowing, but the power of people is great!


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helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
9. They did the same thing after people complained it was too white...
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 10:51 PM
Dec 2019

now they have African Americans throughout their movies. Heck even had some movies with AA as the lead actors. Hallmark channel is changing.

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
13. I never understood why they pulled it.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:12 PM
Dec 2019

I have friends who work for Hallmark in KC. It's usually a pretty welcoming place, especially for the lgbt community. That's why the decision to pull the ad surprised me.

Olafjoy

(937 posts)
14. Did they not understand?
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:16 PM
Dec 2019

The people calling for the the commercial to be taken off buy their wrapping paper at Walmart, their greeting cards at the Dollar Tree and keep their TVs on Faux “news” all day. Not really their customer base. At Christmas? Peak package, card and ornament time? They felt boycott pain FAST.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
24. There wasn't time for a boycott to work, come on now.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:43 PM
Dec 2019

The company that ran the ad was going to pull all its advertising. That hurt.

Then the media backlash hurt as well. They made a wise decision to reverse, but no boycott had any influence on that.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
48. People were threatening to not even shop at their stores..
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 06:33 AM
Dec 2019

perhaps the threat was enough? Especially when they realized, a Million Moms wasn't actually a large group.

GoCubsGo

(32,094 posts)
17. The actual boycott that worked came from the advertiser.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:30 PM
Dec 2019

Zola had been a regular advertiser on the Hallmark Channel. They pulled all their other ads, and with them, the revenue. They said they'd never advertise on that channel again. They apologized only to mitigate the hit to their bottom line.

BigmanPigman

(51,629 posts)
22. No surprise there. $$$$$$$ is the root of all evil and the GOP.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:34 PM
Dec 2019

Wait, that's redundant. The GOP IS evil.

Kath2

(3,089 posts)
20. I really hate that channel.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:33 PM
Dec 2019

Those shows are so fake and the acting so terrible. Makes me want to gag.

Nature Man

(869 posts)
43. funny how people will never miss an opportunity
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 06:15 AM
Dec 2019

to shit on someone no matter how petty the reason.

Ah, the Internets!

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orleans

(34,073 posts)
28. screw them
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:50 PM
Dec 2019

they'll have to do a lot more than just saying
"i'm sorry, i'm really sorry, i know i shouldn't have done that" crap

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
29. first chik fil a
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:50 PM
Dec 2019

then Hallmark

as much as we should have a civic govt to protect out rights, it may very well be that we need to, to paraphrase marx, let the capitalist beg to sell us the rope to hang them with.

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
31. Now they've pissed off everyone
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:52 PM
Dec 2019

There's really no excuse for a large company to be winging it on LGBTQ issues. They've had YEARS to form a policy and then stick with it, on either side of the societal divide.

Pulling ads, then changing their minds just makes it glaringly obvious that they're chasing after the largest market segment rather than taking a stand. I'd cancel my sub to Hallmark Channel, only I don't watch that dreck.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
50. When folks started talking about a boycott, I thought I don't
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 06:41 AM
Dec 2019

even know anyone that watches that channel, anymore, I do shop at their stores however. I think the advertisers didn't cross my mind, because it hasn't really worked with FOX, I'm happy it worked here.

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
32. The total arrogance and ignorance of evangelical so called christians....
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:56 PM
Dec 2019

They didn't say shit about Lori Laughlin and her ills and misdeeds, but two chicks kissing is wrong...

Aussie105

(5,436 posts)
36. two chicks kissing is wrong...
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 12:42 AM
Dec 2019

And I bet they aren't really lesbians, and not really getting married!

Talk about a nothingburger!


if you get upset about the ads, you really need to evaluate your value system, and consider the meaninglessness of your life.

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SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
39. Schmaltz!
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 01:02 AM
Dec 2019

That is what I call the overdose of sentimental bullcrap they program.

I am old enough to remember when Charlie Brown was new and rare!

liberalguilt57

(89 posts)
40. The boycott never made sense anyway...
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 01:04 AM
Dec 2019

The boycott never made sense anyway; for one thing, Hallmark has had a line of greeting cards celebrating same-sex unions since before same-sex marriage became the law of the land. They had already shown themselves to be a company that embraced all kinds of unions and families.
I’m glad they realized someone in the co. made a bone-headed decision for the network, and that they have apologized and are going to air the ad.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
41. What is the ad actually for?
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 03:01 AM
Dec 2019

Maxwell House Coffee? Cheese Its? Lexus?

I googled it, it’s Zola. They got screwed that it took me this long to find out the company behind the ad after all these news stories. All I’ve heard is Hallmark.

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