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5 Pentagon officials have resigned in the last week.😳 (Original Post) dewsgirl Dec 2019 OP
I'm sure Trump is celebrating this. MineralMan Dec 2019 #1
Civil servants who have a belly full of Trump: Please don't resign. nt NCjack Dec 2019 #2
they've been holding the line for 3 years -- battle fatigue Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #30
Yes, it's painful. I bunkered during Reagan. I learned all I would NCjack Dec 2019 #31
my nephew quit in november. mopinko Dec 2019 #3
A very dark picture is forming. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #6
yup. i cant tell you how this frightens me. mopinko Dec 2019 #8
Fucking terrifying.😳 dewsgirl Dec 2019 #33
Somebody needs to find out WTF is going on!! Scotch-Irish Dec 2019 #4
I imagine that decent, honorable people can't stand being associated with the taint of Trump's cor vlyons Dec 2019 #24
Actually sorry to hear this. (BUT i understand why) bluestarone Dec 2019 #5
I worry whatever this is, it's only the beginning. Like everything else dewsgirl Dec 2019 #7
They should speak out first IMHO, there's something wrong and they know it uponit7771 Dec 2019 #9
If they are serving officers, they can't "speak out." malthaussen Dec 2019 #11
+++++++++++++++++++!!! 2naSalit Dec 2019 #13
We play by the rules, they don't Boomer Dec 2019 #18
K&R smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #10
No, not a bit. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #22
Maybe Taking Orders From Putin DanieRains Dec 2019 #12
No maybe about it...nt 2naSalit Dec 2019 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author dewsgirl Dec 2019 #20
Problem: As the Gubment sheds good people, only the dregs, the criminals remain. rickyhall Dec 2019 #16
This is how Fascism works. maxsolomon Dec 2019 #17
One of a few things to disturb me this week. BadgerMom Dec 2019 #19
Someone brought up how all of this would make a coup so dewsgirl Dec 2019 #23
Thanks for this concise and deeply ominous list, Mom Leghorn21 Dec 2019 #27
rePuticans believe we won't need such expertise, Russian weapons systems are so much better! ffr Dec 2019 #21
Heads of All Military Branches including Southcom Northcom & Nuclear Force Replaced since July 2019 OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #25
I'm happy you started a new thread on this.😳 dewsgirl Dec 2019 #26
I've posted this before but perhaps readers are too overwhelmed OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #28
Good😊 dewsgirl Dec 2019 #29
I'm honestly surprised everyone hasn't already left. lindysalsagal Dec 2019 #32

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
1. I'm sure Trump is celebrating this.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:38 AM
Dec 2019

Nobody else will notice, though, really.

Trump is getting rid of people who disagree with him.

mopinko

(70,208 posts)
3. my nephew quit in november.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 12:04 PM
Dec 2019

i did post about it here, but he was an asst to the sec def for jasoc. appointed by mattis.
he pointed a finger at one john rood, spanky's policy advisor to the pentagon.
specifically was fighting w him about personnel issues, and a pick for sec def asst.
but he described real turmoil there, and said he had received a lot of support both in the building, and on the hill.

i dont know what has happened since, as he is very, very tight lipped.
but this guy was jr rotc, full boat scholar, all the way to harvard phd, from grunt to just shy of a general's star. a fucking hero. the last thing he wanted to do was walk away.
if we are losing people like him, we are in real trouble.

mopinko

(70,208 posts)
8. yup. i cant tell you how this frightens me.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 12:33 PM
Dec 2019

for them to chase off this guy, as dedicated a non-partisan warrior as there ever was, just gives me chills.
he is actually pretty rw. his retirement video is full of pics of him w bushie, wolfawitz, even karl rove, but he served in the obama white house w honor and respect.

he has a fucking illustrious career, medals and all.
and now he is out.
terrified, i am.

 

Scotch-Irish

(464 posts)
4. Somebody needs to find out WTF is going on!!
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 12:08 PM
Dec 2019

Are these folks being blackmailed by russia via trump? I don't trust the Trump/russia mafia, and I know there are some people who are really scared. The military needs to be fighting this, not resigning!

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
24. I imagine that decent, honorable people can't stand being associated with the taint of Trump's cor
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:35 PM
Dec 2019

ignorance, blatant lies, and hatefulness. Probably can't stomach working for a Russian asset.

bluestarone

(17,030 posts)
5. Actually sorry to hear this. (BUT i understand why)
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 12:09 PM
Dec 2019

I feel we are losing our eyes and ears that should be there to watch the assholes EVERY move! I probably would do the same though! Can't stand to be around him, or even hear his fucking voice!

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
7. I worry whatever this is, it's only the beginning. Like everything else
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 12:17 PM
Dec 2019

in this administration, we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg.

malthaussen

(17,216 posts)
11. If they are serving officers, they can't "speak out."
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 01:01 PM
Dec 2019

Politics in uniform is a no-no, which is as it should be. And in an institutional setting, one never airs grievances with his superiors in public. One has two choices: follow orders or resign. So one wonders if some really questionable orders are floating around out there, or if they just can't sustain their oaths while Mr Trump is C-in-C.

-- Mal

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
18. We play by the rules, they don't
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:22 PM
Dec 2019

When one side is constrained by rule of the law, and the other side isn't, the result is predictable. We can withstand a few criminal rogue actors, but eventually critical mass is reached and the whole system falls apart.

Welcome to the beginning of the end.

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BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
19. One of a few things to disturb me this week.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:30 PM
Dec 2019

There’s also:

-Bill Taylor stepping down as Acting Ambassador to Ukraine by the end of the year. https://apple.news/AW9xD1g32P16VJ-_6Sspsig

-A Russian naval vessel in US waters. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-spy-ship-operating-in-an-unsafe-manner-off-u-s-coast-2019-12-17/

-Trump opposing proposed new Russia sanctions. https://apple.news/A_8YqO5vtRre5_wPlw_oTVw

-McConnell pushing through more under qualified judges during impeachment. https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/18/politics/senate-mcconnell-judges/index.html

The misery just keeps on coming.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
23. Someone brought up how all of this would make a coup so
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:44 PM
Dec 2019

much easier.. I hadn't linked it to these other stories, especially the Russian Sub.😳

ffr

(22,671 posts)
21. rePuticans believe we won't need such expertise, Russian weapons systems are so much better!
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:37 PM
Dec 2019

Russia's assimilation of America is nearly complete.

Kaidanow worked under the Pentagon’s acquisition and sustainment office focusing on “the development and implementation of international cooperative programs” to bring “cooperation with U.S. allies on research, development, production and support of weapons systems and related equipment."

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
25. Heads of All Military Branches including Southcom Northcom & Nuclear Force Replaced since July 2019
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:36 PM
Dec 2019

Complete article at
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212800748

Many have a four (4) year term so perhaps this is just a huge coincidence.

Nonetheless, a window of doubt about loyalties was created by reports of Trump’s demands for loyalty.

I hope these new leaders have to report activities to The House of Representatives and Senators

Army
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army

Navy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_the_Navy

Air Force
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_the_Air_Force

Marines
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commandant_of_the_Marine_Corps

Northcom
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/07/11/groundbreaking-female-general-in-command-of-us-army-north/

Southcom
https://www.southcom.mil/MEDIA/NEWS-ARTICLES/Article/1905866/us-army-south-welcomes-new-commander/

Commander in Charge of Nuclear Forces
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/11/heres-the-new-commander-in-charge-of-us-nuclear-forces/

Big changes are underway in the branches

The Marines' new commandant has set the bar for real military reform
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-marines-have-set-the-bar-for-reform-can-the-rest-of-the-military-follow/2019/08/08/21b47d5e-ba1c-11e9-b3b4-2bb69e8c4e39_story.html

Remarks by Acting Secretary of the Army Hon. Ryan D. McCarthy at U.S. Army Change of Responsibility

https://www.army.mil/article/225609/remarks_by_acting_secretary_of_the_army_hon_ryan_d_mccarthy_at_us_army_change_of_responsibility

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
28. I've posted this before but perhaps readers are too overwhelmed
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:36 PM
Dec 2019

Your timely article prompted a rerun ☺️

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