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Shrek

(3,983 posts)
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:14 PM Dec 2019

'Fine with us' if Pelosi doesn't transmit articles, McConnell says

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-impeachment-live-updates/2019/12/19/0b2d8c0c-21fe-11ea-a153-dce4b94e4249_story.html

McConnell told reporters that it’s “fine with us” if Pelosi decides not to transmit articles of impeachment, averting a Senate trial of Trump.

“If the speaker wants to hold on to them, that’s fine with us,” the Republican Senate leader said.

Earlier, McConnell scoffed at the notion that Democrats could gain leverage by delaying the transmittal of the articles and told reporters that he is “not anxious” to hold a Senate trial.

“It’s beyond me how the Speaker and Democratic Leader in the Senate think withholding the articles of impeachment and not sending them over gives them leverage,” McConnell told reporters in a hallway of the Capitol. “Frankly, I’m not anxious to have the trial. … If [Pelosi] thinks her case is so weak she doesn’t want to send it over, throw me into that brier patch.”
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'Fine with us' if Pelosi doesn't transmit articles, McConnell says (Original Post) Shrek Dec 2019 OP
LOL Johnny2X2X Dec 2019 #1
Ya okay mcturtle...what a childish thing to say...nah nah asiliveandbreathe Dec 2019 #2
She can ignore him duforsure Dec 2019 #3
Trump Impeached - Never Acquitted lame54 Dec 2019 #4
Exactly, Dems should not allow McTurtle to acquit the bastard onetexan Dec 2019 #13
Now THAT'S a Merry Impeachmas!!! EOM TruckFump Dec 2019 #15
I like the sound of that! Can we send to Time magazine for their next cover lede..at best, RestoreAmerica2020 Dec 2019 #64
That was my takeaway last night. He wins either way. maxsolomon Dec 2019 #5
No, Trump BADLY wants his bullshit acquittal. He'll never be ok with letting this coti Dec 2019 #11
He'll learn to live with it and will exonerate himself. maxsolomon Dec 2019 #21
he'll try but it will eat away at him eShirl Dec 2019 #22
You are assuming what McConnell wants is the same as what Trump wants Jose Garcia Dec 2019 #46
MM and the GOP's #1 job now is to placate the orange man-baby coti Dec 2019 #68
Perhaps McConnell convinced him that waiting would work Jose Garcia Jan 2020 #73
That's why this is perfect. It will gnaw and eat away COLGATE4 Dec 2019 #54
Trump is upset True Blue American Dec 2019 #56
I have been saying this all along Cosmocat Dec 2019 #60
Dems keep investigations open and can add to articles easier before transmitting and losing control uponit7771 Dec 2019 #69
Okay then. moondust Dec 2019 #6
This tells me edhopper Dec 2019 #7
I agree DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #44
She played him..... panader0 Dec 2019 #49
I also don't understand how it creates leverage. Renew Deal Dec 2019 #8
Trump doesn't get acquited Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #16
I guess you and I are in the minority Shrek Dec 2019 #17
Checking In. jayfish Dec 2019 #24
I think it's b/c he wants a quick, no nonsense, no witnesses, no facts type "trial". Then ReformedGOPer Dec 2019 #27
So We Are Stooping to Their Level... jayfish Dec 2019 #31
No, we are DEMANDING INTEGRITY. coti Dec 2019 #37
"it will eat away at trump and he will get even crazier every day" jayfish Dec 2019 #39
Until he demands McConnell give him his acquittal, which will require a TRIAL. coti Dec 2019 #41
Asking for a fair trial isn't trolling. It's basic democracy. John Fante Dec 2019 #45
Again. jayfish Dec 2019 #52
Pelosi never said that, so why do you keep repeating it? John Fante Dec 2019 #57
I think Trump wants it more (so he can be "exonerated") Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2019 #51
In the meantime, the courts will make decsions on Bolton & others testifying. Kaleva Dec 2019 #29
The Senate MAGAts don't get to make this quickly go away with a partisan acquital. backscatter712 Dec 2019 #42
House investigations stay open and Pelosi can add to them easier uponit7771 Dec 2019 #70
Meanwhile the Supreme Court will rule shortly on forcing Mulvaney and Bolton to testify pecosbob Dec 2019 #9
IF they rule on it. ReformedGOPer Dec 2019 #28
The Court said they are taking it up. Kaleva Dec 2019 #30
It is the fulcrum of our constitutional crisis pecosbob Dec 2019 #34
As long as they don't plead the 5th n/t aggiesal Dec 2019 #67
Really? You think Trump'll be ok with never getting the bullshit acquittal you've promised him? nt coti Dec 2019 #10
Trump wants an acquittal so badly, he can taste it DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #48
STFU moscow mitch mcturtle. Faux pas Dec 2019 #12
McTurtle whistles past the graveyard. TruckFump Dec 2019 #14
Trump can spend his Christmas and New Year thinking about being the only President to be impeached coti Dec 2019 #19
The visual of MF45 pacing the halls of the WH and talking to the photos... TruckFump Dec 2019 #20
Trump could make the argument that he was never really impeached dumbcat Dec 2019 #26
Nah. He was impeached. That's reality. coti Dec 2019 #35
He's faking. honest.abe Dec 2019 #18
Moscow Mitch is so scared of the facts that he can't even risk a rubber stamp acquittal. nt coti Dec 2019 #36
Could be fine w/ Moscow Mitch, but he doesn't have a single thing to do w/ the articles of... SWBTATTReg Dec 2019 #23
When a Repuke says "Fine with me", the translation is "You are killing me!" NCjack Dec 2019 #25
My thoughts exactly. Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #32
Seriously. It's not even a good bluff. "I don't care if you shoot the hostage." coti Dec 2019 #40
You really think she's stupid, don't you Mitchie? louis-t Dec 2019 #33
Now that I think about it, there's an awful lot of legislation that needs to be passed by the Senate coti Dec 2019 #38
They'd just get lost in that stack of unpassed bills Retrograde Dec 2019 #43
Do you have any idea how many judges McConnell has pushed through? Jose Garcia Dec 2019 #53
It's fine with me if Trump never gets acquitted lame54 Dec 2019 #47
Completely ignoring the Senate process. roamer65 Dec 2019 #50
first Trump wasn't getting his due process and right to face his accusers... Thomas Hurt Dec 2019 #55
lol, having court ruling forcing Mulvaney. Pompeo, Rudy, etc to appear before a House committee beachbumbob Dec 2019 #58
Trump train, everybody aboard... pbmus Dec 2019 #59
The stench from the corpse of Trump's presidency is only going to get worse... hunter Dec 2019 #61
Turtle and Drumpt get to sit on this over the long holiday break. Outstanding! kairos12 Dec 2019 #62
I smell bluff CanonRay Dec 2019 #63
What he's saying right now ... marble falls Dec 2019 #65
LOL. He wants those articles so bad he can taste it. ananda Dec 2019 #66
It's always opposite Baked Potato Dec 2019 #71
TrumPutin must be calling Moscoward Mitch every hour. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #72

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
2. Ya okay mcturtle...what a childish thing to say...nah nah
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:18 PM
Dec 2019

Here is the bottom line..the pos will FOREVER be IMPEACHED..FOREVER>>>

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
3. She can ignore him
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:18 PM
Dec 2019

And keep adding others crimes he and others,including republicans, up to the election, and when he loses his job from another drubbing from voters his tune will be much different.

onetexan

(13,058 posts)
13. Exactly, Dems should not allow McTurtle to acquit the bastard
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:40 PM
Dec 2019

Let him carry that stain onto november elections.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,438 posts)
64. I like the sound of that! Can we send to Time magazine for their next cover lede..at best,
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 05:46 PM
Dec 2019

..Dema use as talking point from now until we boot the guy out in 2020.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
5. That was my takeaway last night. He wins either way.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:21 PM
Dec 2019

Time for Romney to start performing his "honorable Republican" routine.

Such an asshole you have representing you, Kentucky. WTFU.

coti

(4,612 posts)
11. No, Trump BADLY wants his bullshit acquittal. He'll never be ok with letting this
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:36 PM
Dec 2019

hang over his head without "exoneration" (cough, cough, lol).

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
21. He'll learn to live with it and will exonerate himself.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:58 PM
Dec 2019

This is where we'll stay for a while; an impasse. McConnell is the living embodiment of an impasse.

coti

(4,612 posts)
68. MM and the GOP's #1 job now is to placate the orange man-baby
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 07:53 PM
Dec 2019

They don't want him to pee all over the cereal aisle, so they have to give him what he wants.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
54. That's why this is perfect. It will gnaw and eat away
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:38 PM
Dec 2019

at Fearless Leader day and night and he will begin to make McTurtle's life miserable, demanding that he "move the trial along, etc. etc", only to be told that it's not in McTurtle's power to do so. I could even envision him going after Mitch for this. I'd pay to see that.

True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
56. Trump is upset
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:41 PM
Dec 2019

There may be a delay.

Mitch made the mistake of saying the trial would come first Nancywats some of the is the House passed finished in the Senate

Cosmocat

(14,572 posts)
60. I have been saying this all along
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 05:10 PM
Dec 2019

The House did what it had to do under bizarrely difficult circumstances, but we saw a mild uptick in support for impeachment before it flatlined and retraced a bit.

They need to get it off the plate, and frankly WAY to easy to give the Rs the frame they are throwing around on it right now.

McConnell is going to be a douchebag about it nothing to be done.

uponit7771

(90,363 posts)
69. Dems keep investigations open and can add to articles easier before transmitting and losing control
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 07:56 PM
Dec 2019

... of the articles.

moondust

(20,006 posts)
6. Okay then.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:26 PM
Dec 2019

Just forget the Senate farce that will lead him to claim "exoneration"; leave it at IMPEACHED forever.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
44. I agree
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:26 PM
Dec 2019

This is already the second tact McConnell has taken just today, less than 24 hours out from the impeachment vote.

Renew Deal

(81,871 posts)
8. I also don't understand how it creates leverage.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:31 PM
Dec 2019

He gets to avoid doing something he doesn't want to do. Shame is no factor.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
16. Trump doesn't get acquited
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:49 PM
Dec 2019

and the Senate is exposed for the scam trial it would have been.

Personally, I think we should make the Senate Repubs actually vote to acquit so they can't claim later, when even more and more comes clear that Trump did, that they NEVER would have left him in office. But Pelosi always seems to know what she's doing.

Shrek

(3,983 posts)
17. I guess you and I are in the minority
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:51 PM
Dec 2019

I have no idea why so many are convinced that McConnell is chomping at the bit to have a trial.

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
24. Checking In.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:01 PM
Dec 2019

When this idea was floated I didn't understand why McConnell would care. I still don't and actually think it helps (R)s foment rage with thier supports and fatigue among everyone else as an Impeachment trial inches closer and close to the 20' election.

ReformedGOPer

(478 posts)
27. I think it's b/c he wants a quick, no nonsense, no witnesses, no facts type "trial". Then
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:05 PM
Dec 2019

he'll declare trump acquitted, and therefore a king.

If she slow walks it over, it will eat away at trump and he will get even crazier every day. I'd buy some popcorn for that.

coti

(4,612 posts)
37. No, we are DEMANDING INTEGRITY.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:17 PM
Dec 2019

Instead of sending our proverbial sheep of impeachment to the wolves.

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
39. "it will eat away at trump and he will get even crazier every day"
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:18 PM
Dec 2019

Doesn't sound like "DEMANDING INTEGRITY" to me.

coti

(4,612 posts)
41. Until he demands McConnell give him his acquittal, which will require a TRIAL.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:19 PM
Dec 2019

With witnesses and evidence.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
45. Asking for a fair trial isn't trolling. It's basic democracy.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:26 PM
Dec 2019

McConnell is admitting in a roundabout way that he won't do that. That will create rage in the Democratic base (as if we needed more).

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
52. Again.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:36 PM
Dec 2019

"it will eat away at trump and he will get even crazier every day" doesn't sound like asking for a fair trial.

Oh, and GL tonight v. the Bucks.

Yer gonna need it.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
57. Pelosi never said that, so why do you keep repeating it?
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:45 PM
Dec 2019

It absolutely will eat away at him though. Good, fuck him.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
51. I think Trump wants it more (so he can be "exonerated")
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:34 PM
Dec 2019

and Trump will put pressure on McConnell to hold a trial- at least that's one theory.

Kaleva

(36,341 posts)
29. In the meantime, the courts will make decsions on Bolton & others testifying.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:07 PM
Dec 2019

We may have more hearings adding to the evidence for Articles 1 & 2 and possibly other articles. There's also the on going investigation into Rudy and his associates. A quick trial with a very likely acquittal now puts this into the history books. Leaving it open keeps it in the news.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
42. The Senate MAGAts don't get to make this quickly go away with a partisan acquital.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:22 PM
Dec 2019

What Pelosi did was to hang this impeachment on Mitch's doorstep like a dead opossum. The longer Mitch resists allowing a fair process to try the impeachment, the worse the stench will get.

And then all Pelosi and the House Dems have to do is keep investigating. They can always add more articles of impeachment...

pecosbob

(7,543 posts)
9. Meanwhile the Supreme Court will rule shortly on forcing Mulvaney and Bolton to testify
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:32 PM
Dec 2019

the whole reason for the Obstruction of Congress article. We should hear from these witnesses.

pecosbob

(7,543 posts)
34. It is the fulcrum of our constitutional crisis
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:14 PM
Dec 2019

To side with an independent Judiciary is to side with the Dems...to do otherwise is to forever submit to the authority of the Executive.

coti

(4,612 posts)
10. Really? You think Trump'll be ok with never getting the bullshit acquittal you've promised him? nt
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:35 PM
Dec 2019

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
48. Trump wants an acquittal so badly, he can taste it
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:31 PM
Dec 2019

The longer the Senate is prevented from starting its trial, the wilder Trump will be to get it started. He will start pressuring McConnell to make a deal - any deal - with Schumer to get it done.

After 3 years of watching Trump, we know how he operates.

coti

(4,612 posts)
19. Trump can spend his Christmas and New Year thinking about being the only President to be impeached
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:54 PM
Dec 2019

and never acquitted.

That'll a helluva thing for the history books.

And on Moscow Mitch's watch, too. What a shitty job he's doing as Senate Majority Leader, can't even get his President off...cough, cough.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
20. The visual of MF45 pacing the halls of the WH and talking to the photos...
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:58 PM
Dec 2019

...like Nixon did during Watergate when it was the darkest hours of the night...

MAKES ME FUCKING SMILE MY BUTT OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
26. Trump could make the argument that he was never really impeached
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:03 PM
Dec 2019

if the articles are not sent to the Senate. Many of his base and others would buy that. Repubs could go with that.

SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
23. Could be fine w/ Moscow Mitch, but he doesn't have a single thing to do w/ the articles of...
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:00 PM
Dec 2019

impeachment and how they are being handled in the House of Representatives. Nancy does.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
25. When a Repuke says "Fine with me", the translation is "You are killing me!"
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:01 PM
Dec 2019

McConnell and Trump want this over with before Super Tuesday. On that day, the GOPer senators are free to vote against Trump, as it will be too late to run in Repuke challengers.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
32. My thoughts exactly.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:12 PM
Dec 2019

All about timing. Primaries and Caucus's. Moscow Mitch is counting on having a few months of PR in his favor before Elections . April and beyond is Sales Season for the Politicians. And Prime time is August till November the ninety days of mega buys.

coti

(4,612 posts)
40. Seriously. It's not even a good bluff. "I don't care if you shoot the hostage."
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:18 PM
Dec 2019

STFU Mitch, get real.

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
33. You really think she's stupid, don't you Mitchie?
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:13 PM
Dec 2019

I hope you get an ulcer over your holiday, you fucking traitor.

coti

(4,612 posts)
38. Now that I think about it, there's an awful lot of legislation that needs to be passed by the Senate
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:18 PM
Dec 2019

and signed by Trump, too.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
50. Completely ignoring the Senate process.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:32 PM
Dec 2019

That ignoring of the Senate rules equals acquittal by inaction...no different than a sham trial.

House needs to continue investigations and vote up more articles to increase the pressure.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
55. first Trump wasn't getting his due process and right to face his accusers...
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:39 PM
Dec 2019

now no trial or witnesses.

first there was a Biden conspiracy of corruption

now they don't want to hear from Rudy or anyone else.

LOL.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
58. lol, having court ruling forcing Mulvaney. Pompeo, Rudy, etc to appear before a House committee
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:57 PM
Dec 2019

and most likely having to plead the 5th

works for us

hunter

(38,326 posts)
61. The stench from the corpse of Trump's presidency is only going to get worse...
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 05:27 PM
Dec 2019

...and McConnell will be wearing it.

marble falls

(57,204 posts)
65. What he's saying right now ...
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 05:46 PM
Dec 2019

actually I think Moskow's Mitch would very much like Nancy Pelosi to take the Trump stone from his shoe.

ananda

(28,876 posts)
66. LOL. He wants those articles so bad he can taste it.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 06:05 PM
Dec 2019

I think he's trying reverse phychology.

Guess what ... it won't work.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,413 posts)
72. TrumPutin must be calling Moscoward Mitch every hour.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:52 PM
Dec 2019

We need more Moscow Mitch billboards in Kentucky.

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