Both Trump and McConnell are waiting to see what she does.

How we came to a place where people want term limits and non-politicians running things amazes me! Generally, the most effective lawmakers are the most long-term lawmakers. As it should be.

The worst of the worst.

Best: Pelosi
Worst: McConnell

so, there are reasons that term limits might be useful. Or at least maybe term limits on how long you can be Majority leader in the Senate. This specific body has a lot of power. Including Judicial appointments, or even consideration of them. And If they don’t want something to come up for a vote, Moscow Mitch just simply sits on it.

I think that is very undemocratic and needs to be addressed.

sticking it to the Democrats and blocking necessary legislation Just Because He Can. Something is very wrong with a man holding a vital position in governing who announces his major focus is to limit the unquestionably elected president to one term. He failed, of course, but was undeterred in his "mission." He's let bills from the House pile up, preferring thwarting the Democratic House instead of doing his job. McConnell then brags to the Trump crazed Sean Hannity ( a college drop-out, obviously before any classes in critical thinking, Hannity has a little more excuse) that he will be breaking his oath and sabotaging the Senate trial. Evil maneuverings behind the scenes are one thing: being so full of oneself as to brag about it is just sick. Mitch may be disguising more craziness than Trump behind that mushy drawl. BTW, McConnell is not a Kentucky native son. He was born in Alabama and moved to Kentucky as a teenager.

which grants that power to each chamber of Congress. So there' s nothing anyone outside the Senate can do other than lobby Senators to change it.

As for people who rhink there should be term limits, many of them have a somewhat naive view of government based on the earliest days of the nation. In those days, communities were small, and government was not. nearly as complex as today. It was possible then for a local farmer or general store or small tavern owner to be chosen by people who personally knew him to represent local interests on a national level.

Those days are long gone but some people dream of bringing them back. They want to send new, ordinary, inexperienced citizens to Congress every few years. This would eliminate the expertise and wisdom that comes from experience. Plus, today, laws and procedures are more complex than a couple centuries ago. Takes time and experience to be effective today.

Experience is valuable and necessary today much more than in tge late 17th and early 18th centuries.

We don't need a revolving door of inexperienced legislators who have to leave just as they're getting good at their jobs -- or grifters who are looking to get in and get out for a financial windfall after rewarding corporations who lobby them.

What we need is real reform that eliminates the legalized bribery of corporate lobbying and campaign finance.

We need qualified and honorable representatives who are attracted to a career in public service. Not many people have the financial security to disrupt their private career for a relatively short stint in government.

If incumbents have an unfair advantage we need to fix the system and have a better platform for evaluating candidates. Term limits addresses a symptom, not the cause of corruption.

It does us no good to kick out our best public servants with an arbitrary limit to their tenure of service.

promote term limits are on the right. I don't know what they expect to gain from it.

was amazing.

We need to label the Moscow Mitch protection of Putin's puppet trial for impeachment a sham before Dumpy Trumpy comes up with a name for it. Label it before it gets off the ground.

Mitch thinks he can wait it out, but meanwhile, the house can start impeachment proceedings on other of Trump's crimes. And repeat. This will serve several purposes - 1 - expose all of Trump's crimes and lawlessness and basing force the Senate to convict him. 2 - drive Trump nuts because he can't holler "Vindicated!", and Trump is scared something he did that was really bad will be exposed (like having sex with underage girls) 3- keep Trump in the spotlight until election time which will then force GOP candidates to choose if they want to continue to back Trump or risk losing an election. Since a lot of Goopers are already bailing, no doubt they will turn their backs on Trump which will further enrage the baby, and create more reasons to impeach him.

And all because Mitch said he will make sure Trump will be exonerated. Mitch - you sank your's and Trump's careers with your arrogance, and that one statement.

'stellar poker players,' but Pelosi is surely the better player here, at this particular table, because of McConnell's 'tell.'

.... McConnell revealed his hand by stating he was not impartial, had no intent to be impartial, had no obligation or desire to be impartial.

Yet the oath before the impeachment case is heard before the US Senate specifically mentions in the US Constitution that one takes on oath to be impartial in weighing the facts of an impeachment trial.

Why do these people hate Democracy so ?
How is this not treasonous conduct ?
How is it the US Supreme Court via Citizens United allowed these American politicians to be on Putin's payroll so that these American politicians show more loyalty to Russia than they do to the United States of America and the common interests of the citizenry of this country we all call home ?

The leader of the United States Senate is in the pocket of Vladimir Putin - McConnell is lobbying for the best interests of Russia, it is astoundingly shameful we have sunk so low.

Why do these people hate Democracy so ? Because they have been seduced by the lust for money and power, and because they have been 'bought' by oligarchs and special interests.

How is this not treasonous conduct ? It is treasonous conduct.

How is it the US Supreme Court via Citizens United allowed these American politicians to be on Putin's payroll so that these American politicians show more loyalty to Russia than they do to the United States of America and the common interests of the citizenry of this country we all call home ? Again, we can thank this neoliberal capitalist model. Remember that capitalism by nature, when unrestrained by a strong government regulatory structure, tends to monopoly. This means that more money will always be systematically be routed by policy, law, hook and crook, to fewer and fewer people.

Broadcast network tv news has shown soundbites of Nancy -- "I don't care what Republicans say" -- versus Moscow Mitch -- "Democrats are scared". It's being portrayed as just dirty political maneuvering, without the prejudicial statements by McConnell and Graham that sparked the delay.

How do we get the networks to show the prejudging?

I told someone on FB Wednesday that "We've impeached him once, and we can do it again!" if we need to.

Donald tRump could go down in history as the Most-Impeached pResidunce EVER! ---

it will be interesting how all the lawsuits are gonna be decided, emolument clause is especially powerful and impeacheable offense warranting its own place in the constitution. They can start subpoena witnesses from trump org for public testimony.

I like it.

So that is uses his first 3 letters, McC

I stuck with Kangaroo and only added the Mc for McConnell.

McKangaroo Court.

Mr. Magoo Kangaroo court come to my mind?



Either way faculties are in failure mode.

"kangaroo court" with the prosecution. That term might.get misinterpreted to mean that Dems want a kangaroo court and that's what Pelosi is trying to do. Even if you put "Mc" in front of it, people's minds associate a term with what they expect it to mean.

not realizing or maybe they do, that it was a hearing and not really a court,
more like an interrogation.

That some in the GOP have to consider a replacement on the ticket for Trump. Do they really want to run someone who is under the cloud of impeachment? And not yet tried? It would seem to be an insane move. Did the Republicans run Andrew Johnson in 1868 even though his trial was over and he wasn't convicted?

as I heard it reported that they're now looking more closely into Pence's role in the Ukraine Biden smear scheme.

i forget who was on l o'd talking about it, but they described how it happened and it sounded like she immediately grasped what that meant, and jumped right on it.

I saw on DU saying it would be the smart thing to do... and here we are.

Sounds like Nancy listened to him Irony!

the Speaker remove the Trump pebble from his shoe. We need to hang Trump from McConnell's neck like an albatross.

he would be ecstatic. Pelosi doing an effective Merrick Garland next year, would be such delicious dish served cold.

Mitch started this when he brazenly said he would exonerate Trump. Which violated his oath and that has a specific penalty. But Mitch thinks he is above the law, so Pelosi simply puts him in a position where he either has to do what is sworn to do, or to recuse himself. IOW, Mitch back his own ass into a corner. All Pelosi is doing is forcing Mitch to obey the law. Mitch created this so called wedge all by himself. Further, this is in no way a political thing. It is a matter of insuring a fair and impartial hearing. Mitch doesn't want that, the law says he must, and Pelosi is enforcing the law.

of more damning investigations.

And bring more charges, based on his current actions. More, new abuse of BB power charges.

Now that impeachment is a done deal (ie, we have articles passed), investigate the HELL out of the shitgibbon! Now we can go to court on a less stringent timetable and force out the witnesses and documents. I personally think we need to subpoena EVERY stinking document, hard drive, flash card and cell phone that's crossed the White House sill since Inauguration Day.

Keep investigating! All roads lead to Moscow! (though a few may take the scenic route through Riyadh....!)

I’m so glad she’s our Speaker.

Just think... only trump and pence stand between her and the presidency. The VP is the proverbial “one heartbeat away” from it. The Speaker of the House is a mere two heartbeats away.

It’s a mighty nice thought, even as unrealistic as it actually is.

I’m not pinning any hopes on it. The bad guys will move heaven and earth to prevent it. Besides, NOT ONE of ‘em wants to face being beaten by a GIRL!

This will be studied for years to come.

Well done, ma'am.

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As we know chicanery is the use of trickery to achieve a political, financial, or legal purpose" [wikipedia]

Just a few synonyms check all that apply to GOP

___trickery
___deception
___deceit
___deceitfulness
___duplicity
___dishonesty
___unscrupulousness
___underhandedness
___fraud
___swindling
___cheating
___duping
___deviousness
___slyness
___misleading talk
___crookedness
___shenanigans

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and it's even from a child's story to be suitable for the child in the WH.

"You're a mean ine, Mr. Grinch." Can't recall all the words now, but they are a perfect description of the sociopath in chief.

tinpot despot and not a true dicktator!

Urban Dictionary: tinpot despot
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tinpot despot
The name for dictators in small countries that think they are more important than they are. The term comes from how children play soldier by putting a kitchen pot on their heads to make people think they are real soldiers. Tinpot despots have a lot less influence in the world than they think they do. They often use military force to get what they want.

No Javelins for you!

I’m giving him such a smack!

Nancy is playing chess while the opposition is playing checkers.

I'll start believing in miracles

President Pelosi may be in the cards if she plays her hand right 😎

“Mitch McConnell’s equity here is his senators, protecting those six vulnerable senators: Martha McSally, Susan Collins, Cory Gardner."

tia
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We're hoping to send Susan Collins and her spine of oatmeal home next year. We have a good potential nominee in Sara Gideon.

Collins' 2014 opponent. Shenna Bellows, is my State Senator and a good friend to my wife and son and I. I was kinda pissed that the national party didn't give her any real support and Collins was kinda pissed because Shenna never just sat back to take her beating but rather worked hard every single day of the campaign, including walking the entire state by foot and visiting all counties.

RESiST!

...Dolt45 and Moscow Mitch.

RESIST!

She is an exceptionally savvy politician - a 'master' tactician.

n/t

McConnell and Trump over holding the impeachment articles, IMO, is Trump's eagerness to have a Senate trial so he can be acquitted and take a victory lap.

His eagerness is pitted against McConnell's desire to.resist Pelosi's and Schumer's insistance on a fair trial with witnesses. McConnell is searching for a way around this and Trump does not have patience for the time that takes. It might make Trump get even more rash and demanding on taking control of the process himself.