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Authorities said the 42-year-old Iowa woman intentionally ran over the girl as she was walking to an activity at her middle school near Des Moines.Pilar Melendez
Updated Dec. 20, 2019 12:45PM ET
An Iowa woman has admitted to authorities that she intentionally hit a teenage girl with her car because she was Mexican, police said Friday.
Nicole Marie Poole Franklin, 42, was charged Thursday near Des Moines with attempted murder after allegedly running down a 14-year-old as she walked to Indian Hills Junior High School on Dec. 9 and then fleeing the scene, the Clive Police Department said. Franklin is being held at the Polk County Jail.
Franklin told investigators that she ran the girl over because she was, in her words, a Mexican, Clive Chief of Police Michael Venema said in a Friday press conference.She went on to make a number of derogatory statements about Latinos to the investigators.
Authorities said at 5 p.m., Franklin drove her 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee onto the sidewalk near the middle school, where the girl was walking on the way to an activity.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/iowa-woman-nicole-marie-poole-franklin-hit-teen-with-car-because-she-was-mexican-police-say
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Utter scum.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)as a deplorable, and also rather nuts.
virgogal
(10,178 posts)Backseat Driver
(4,394 posts)IADEMO2004
(5,556 posts)magicarpet
(14,160 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)The others being the orange goon and the hog castrator. She was proud that the blood on her Jeep matched her hat.
Sogo
(4,990 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)Intolerance is a communicable disease
MineralMan
(146,324 posts)Driving a 22 year old Jeep, probably rusted out in the fender wells. She's not in the upper middle class, money-wise, clearly. She probably thinks life has treated her poorly and hasn't gotten what she deserves, so she took it out on someone she perceived as a foreigner. Now, she'll get what she deserves, finally, I hope.
Even in Iowa, you can't just run someone down on the sidewalk, even if that person is a "Mexican." She's gonna be real sorry she did that soon.
rsdsharp
(9,194 posts)MineralMan
(146,324 posts)It's a red state.
rsdsharp
(9,194 posts)MineralMan
(146,324 posts)But, see, this story isn't about me. It's about a racist woman who lives in Iowa who deliberately drove up on a sidewalk to run into a 14-year-old girl. That's what this is about, not my opinion of Iowa.
The woman is from Clive, Iowa, a small town of about 15,000 people on the outskirts of Des Moines.
It used to be a coal mining town, but that industry is gone. It's now an exurb of Des Moines, with some agricultural and other economic features. The Hispanic population has more than doubled since the 2000 census.
I've never been there. Have you?
rsdsharp
(9,194 posts)You see, I live about a 1 mile and a half north of where this happened. I've lived my entire life in Iowa, and the last 35 years in Des Moines, or it's suburbs. I'm a life-long Democrat.
There is ZERO agriculture in Clive; it is totally urban. It would properly be referred to as a suburb of Des Moines. Unless you live in the area you would won't know when you cross from Des Moines (where I've lived) into Windsor Heights (where I've lived)and then into Clive, or from Clive into West Des Moines or Urbandale (where I currently live).
And by the way, Polk County voted for Hillary by a margin of more than 11 points. Polk County is where the section of Clive where the incident occurred is located. But you already knew that. Right?
stopdiggin
(11,336 posts)that has turned very, very red in the past generation (15-20 years). I don't know that it is especially racist in it's aggregate .. but with Steve King et al., it would be hard to make as case that they were overly concerned with inclusiveness and tolerance. Would you have been more satisfied if the poster had said "not even in downstate Illinois?" Or KS, or MO?
rsdsharp
(9,194 posts)Not quite sure what you mean by the "et. al." comment (I'm speaking about context not definition), but 75% of Iowa'a congressional delegation are Democrats.
stopdiggin
(11,336 posts)(in 2018). but BOTH senators, the governor, and BOTH houses in the general assembly .. all red. I know the territory. And, despite hurt feelings, it doesn't paint a picture anything other than RED.
(This is not to say that LE and courts won't do their job here -- and I don't think anyone was seriously trying to suggest otherwise .. but we haven't heard anyone making the suggestion that Trump might LOSE IA in the next election either. Speaks for itself.)
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)but that simply isn't true.
For a good quarter of a century, the states of Iowa, Minnesota, and Wisconsin took turns consistently placing in the top three in SAT testing. They would switch positions each year, but always landed up there.
And I want to remind DUers that Iowa was the first Midwestern state to allow same-sex marriages. This particular lady probably didn't vote for the legislators who voted in favor of the law, but an entire state shouldn't be condemned for one moron's actions.
My state of Wisconsin elects deplorables like King too, and I complain about the confused electorate on here almost every day, but I also know some decent people here to balance things out.
The Polack MSgt
(13,191 posts)Face it Iowa is a solid Trump state that consistently re-elects a man that paraphrases the 14 words in his congressional mailings.
And even in that environment attempting to kill a child is beyond the pale.
So sorry your delicate feels were trampled by MM, but we all knew what he meant and the pearl clutching outrage is unimpressive.
BTW rsdsharp - I am also a rural lifelong Democrat from the hills of Appalachia who now lives in corn fields on the prairie now - AND BOTH THOSE PLACES ARE RACIST AS FUCK
MarcA
(2,195 posts)Interesting how stereotypical remarks are defended with non sequiturs and back peddling
when confronted with facts.
Takket
(21,604 posts)that just because you are in a state where the majority of people supported drumpf's ideals of hate towards anyone not a while male evangelical, you can't just try to murder people.
MineralMan
(146,324 posts)Thanks.
progressoid
(49,992 posts)Police agencies reported 48 anti-black hate crimes in the state last year, 21 anti-white, 21 hate crimes motivated by a bias against the LGBTQ community, 16 anti-Jewish and 10 anti-Muslim crimes, the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension reported.
The increase came even as overall violent crime in the U.S. fell slightly, by 0.2 percent, after increases in 2015 and 2016.
Minnesota has consistently provided data to the FBI but police departments across the state approach classifying and reporting hate crimes differently.
According to the FBIs latest report, more than 310 agencies reported zero hate crimes in their jurisdictions last year including in Bloomington, where members of an Illinois militia allegedly bombed the Dar Al Farooq Islamic Center in August 2017. Three members of the militia are awaiting trial on federal hate crime charges.
http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-reports-rise-in-hate-crimes-too/500444771/
Maybe Iowa should take a page from MN's playbook and just not call them hate crimes.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)Thank goodness the police tracked her down with citizen help.
NBachers
(17,133 posts)There've got to be a pile of other charges they can put on her.
dalton99a
(81,565 posts)Nicole Marie Poole Franklin
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)catbyte
(34,423 posts)I wonder if this is that mugshot. I'm dying to know what else that thing did.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)And another altercation at a gas station.
She's being charged with two hate crimes and the meth thing.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)If they "throw the book at her", make it a Bible. If she can relate that book to physical pain, it's called Aversion Therapy.
Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)Botany
(70,551 posts)Make America Great Again
GusBob
(7,286 posts)take this quarter, go downtown, and have a rat gnaw that thing off your face
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)That scene was hilarious
Arkansas Granny
(31,523 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Salviati
(6,008 posts)yonder
(9,669 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)1) NOT for money
2) NOT in perceived self-defense
3) NOT as part of any legal enforcement or military action
4) NOT by accident
Only because she hates the type of person that the victim was.
And you're not sure that's a hate crime?
I'll ask again: What WOULD be a hate crime if not this?
yonder
(9,669 posts)"... I don't know how she will be ultimately charged."
Too often, we learn of crimes perpetrated by people that are not charged with domestic terrorism, hate crimes, etc., when in our opinion(s) they should be. In this case, you and I do not know what the eventual charges might be.
You ascribe to me words I did not say with your suggestion "and you're not sure that's a hate crime?". That statement is incorrect.
IMO, your explanation of why this should be a hate crime is stated well with the four reasons you list.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)ck4829
(35,079 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)a week later. Thank goodness.
Wonder if this woman has a psychiatric history. She's out and about, though, and there's no real doubt that she'll be convicted and sent to prison for, at this point, attempted murder, hit and run, and/or other serious charges. She drove onto the sidewalk to get her!
RestoreAmerica2020
(3,438 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)with good will. And her parents sound able. This happened on the 9th and the woman's being held in jail, to the family's relief no doubt.
bdamomma
(63,917 posts)person who did this is that insecure and feels threatened to injure a 14 year old girl of her ethnicity, that is quite twisted.
catbyte
(34,423 posts)ck4829
(35,079 posts)crickets
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dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)another, especially an innocent child, this is the one area were I lean conservative.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Stuart G
(38,439 posts)...At least she admitted this was a "hate crime." Some people who do the exact same thing, for the exact same reason will say, "I lost control of the car, and it swerved and hit the person." "I am so sorry, and I am glad she has recovered."
...Think about that one for a while, and we know that has happened before, (that people lie like that) and will happen again in the future.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)And she thought the boys in blue hated the same people she did and would catch a break.
Also, her antiquated feelings toward minorities was that if she killed one, the baby machines would just replace her in 9 months. Plus Trump told her at a rally she was a loser because immigrants got all the jobs. The names Franklin and Poole aren't the same as Yellow Feather, so somewhere down the line she came from an immigrant family too.
She'll get out at age 65 without a pension and will die while employed at some menial 12-hour a week job--all the time blaming brown people for her self-inflicted loserdom.
world wide wally
(21,751 posts)LeftInTX
(25,481 posts)Stuart G
(38,439 posts)...We have 325 million people living here. All kinds, sizes, shapes, etc. There are no rules about teaching decency in education. Of course we hope that it is taught, but there is ugly hatred throughout this country.
...All kinds of hatred. Just like there is all kinds of caring. I think we have the 3rd largest population on earth. So, you name it, we got it. We have an incredible variety of locations to grow up in. From the very coldest, to some of the warmest. (Yes, there is something called, "Death Valley" in the United States..)
... Sometimes, just sometimes, I wonder why there aren't more mean, vicious people like this. I never thought we could elect someone with similar thoughts as this lady, but it happened.
... Sometimes the decency of this country stands out. What about the president before Trump? It is horrific that she ran over this teenager, but it is also wonderful that the teenager survived and is ok. Yes, it is hard to look at it this way. But maybe it is the best way to look at it.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)Those feelings never get expressed on a resume, application or interview. Look at the molesters in the news. It's always too late when the flaws surface.
Teach morality in schools? You'd have to be able to read minds before writing the curriculum. What if this lady instructed 30 kids for 7 hours each day for 35 years? There would be more idiots going to Charlottesville or Portland.
And what about in the home? Okay, unless the father is David Duke or Fred Trump. We'll never have a perfect society. Just keep your phones ready for the next hit and run license plate.
Chakaconcarne
(2,460 posts)Stuart G
(38,439 posts)She really doesn't have a clue. Her prison time will be way beyond anything she could imagine. If she had thought about that for a few seconds, she would not have run over anyone.
catbyte
(34,423 posts)Actually I'm just assuming she's a MAGAt because that doesn't sound like something a Democrat would do.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)a thread on the topic and people jumped all over a couple posters that suggested she was a Trump supporter. It hasn't been officially stated...but come on, of course she was.🙄
sinkingfeeling
(51,469 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)Now, I realize that is NOT a good thing at all. True, all the crazies are out in the open, and we have to del with them. The bad news is lots of innocent people are going to be hurt and the country is going to suffer long term damage as a result. Yes....the racists and haters are out there...but there are way too many; far more than I ever imagined....and more sick and violent than I ever thought possible of a civilized society.
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C Moon
(12,219 posts)catbyte
(34,423 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Even the minimum security jails in Arizona self segregate so since she is a racist she will probably fit right in. Don't know if women's prisons or jails self segregate as often as the men.
drray23
(7,637 posts)Prison population is segregated to avoid riots and murders. If she is a white supremacist, there are plenty of them in prison who will welcome her. Various groups stick together in the yard, at the cafeteria , everywhere.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)Gothmog
(145,479 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)This is just so sick! Another person obviously influenced by Trump's hate speech against Mexicans and other minorities. She is entirely responsible for her behavior, but he is the catalyst that makes them feel justified in thinking they can commit heinous acts like this and get away with it. I hope she stays behind bars for a very long time.
ck4829
(35,079 posts)Gothmog
(145,479 posts)pwb
(11,287 posts)White Trash on full display. Have fun in prison you dumb asshole.
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lark
(23,138 posts)Wonder how the Latinos in jail deal with her? I think she will regret this decision.
Eugene
(61,937 posts)Source: Associated Press
December 23, 2019
CLIVE, Iowa (AP) An Iowa woman who told police she intentionally ran over a 14-year-old girl because she believed the girl was Mexican has been charged with a hate crime for an incident that occurred shortly after the girl was struck.
Nicole Franklin, who also goes by the name Nicole Poole, was charged Sunday with assault in violation of individual rights and with operating under the influence, second offense. Her attorney didnt immediately return a call Monday from The Associated Press.
Franklin was charged with attempted murder following the Dec. 9 attack on Natalia Miranda in the Des Moines suburb of Clive. Miranda suffered a concussion and severe bruising and was hospitalized for two days. Clive police have said Franklin, 42, admitted steering her SUV onto a sidewalk and running over the teenager, who was walking to school to watch a basketball game. Franklin then fled the scene, Clive police said.
West Des Moines police said in a court document that Franklin then went to a convenience store where she threw items at a clerk and directed racial epithets at him and customers. That incident prompted the new charges.
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Read more: https://apnews.com/be2f351f8de44cbef00731d915990d31
Kid Berwyn
(14,939 posts)When the head is Anus Orange, the bottommy parts like the deranged drunk driver get rotted PDQ.