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Demovictory9

(32,457 posts)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:20 AM Dec 2019

Police slammed a man's head into a car that they thought he had stolen, video shows. The man died.

David Glen Ward, 52, was the victim of a carjacking Nov. 24 and somehow got the vehicle back, police said. Ward, however, did not tell law enforcement that he had recovered the car.

A Santa Rosa police detective called the sheriff’s office around 5:40 a.m. Nov. 27 to say that the Honda had been spotted. When Deputy Jason Little tried to stop the car minutes later, police said Ward started to pull over but then led police on a five-mile pursuit that reached speeds of more than 70 mph.

Police said Little tried to stop Ward with a PIT maneuver — a tactic in which officers ram their vehicles into a fleeing vehicle to force it to swerve sideways. Little ordered Ward to show his hands but then continued driving, telling a dispatcher that Ward had kept moving his hands toward his waist.

Blount then arrived and ordered Ward to unlock his car door with one hand. Ward moved his hand toward the lock button, but the door did not unlock. Ward rolled down the window.

“I can’t believe this. I’m the injured party in this,” he said. He asked the deputies why they were “harassing [him] all the time."

The deputies tried to pull Ward out of the window while Ward yelled, “My legs! My legs!” Blount pointed out that Ward’s leg was under the steering wheel.

“He bit me!” Blount cried out. A few seconds later, Little said Ward had bit him, as well.

That’s when Blount pulled Ward’s head out of the window by his hair and slammed it into the car’s frame. A crunching noise rang out as Ward moaned.

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Deputy Nick Jax then arrived and told the other officers that the man lying unconscious in front of them was the car’s owner.

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That’s David Ward,” Jax said.

“Then why did he run?” Little asked.

“I don’t know why he ran,” Jax replied. “You have every — All this, it’s legit. He had no reason to run. But I was out with him earlier, like two hours ago, at his house. The car wasn’t there at the time. Obviously, he somehow, he made contact with the guy and got it. But he was here two hours ago, and this is him."

“Oh well,” Blount said.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/12/21/police-slammed-mans-head-into-car-that-they-thought-he-had-stolen-video-shows-man-died/

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Police slammed a man's head into a car that they thought he had stolen, video shows. The man died. (Original Post) Demovictory9 Dec 2019 OP
Isn't this kind of violence duforsure Dec 2019 #1
YUP and... 2naSalit Dec 2019 #23
This story is sickening Pachamama Dec 2019 #2
Just a guess malaise Dec 2019 #3
that last sentence - "'Oh well', Blount said. " trusty elf Dec 2019 #4
He appears to be white. cwydro Dec 2019 #6
So I got it wrong malaise Dec 2019 #27
Wrong guess. LisaL Dec 2019 #19
my grandfather's cousin was a cop. he treated EVERYBODY like a human. even vice suspects got respect pansypoo53219 Dec 2019 #5
I have a good friend who's a cop. cwydro Dec 2019 #16
Why I can't stand "Law & Order" and some other cop shows for the way they treat prisoners. rickyhall Dec 2019 #7
Treating people well is the best way to get confessions. MoonRiver Dec 2019 #12
Wow. AFTER slamming his head, they also Tased him and put him in a choke hold: tblue37 Dec 2019 #8
I hope that guy is really fired. cwydro Dec 2019 #15
I hope he's charged with murder. SharonClark Dec 2019 #28
That's not just overkill, PatSeg Dec 2019 #22
They Tased him more than once, too. Basically, they were just really pissed off, especially tblue37 Dec 2019 #24
And I think many people PatSeg Dec 2019 #30
Periodic psych evals should be mandatory DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #33
Absolutely PatSeg Dec 2019 #34
Am I missing something? Why did he run from the cops? nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #9
I don't get that either. Or why he wouldn't get out of the car. cwydro Dec 2019 #11
Read your own sentences in reverse order Bucky Dec 2019 #25
Ha! No shit. ret5hd Dec 2019 #26
Maybe he was afraid they would kill him. nt tblue37 Dec 2019 #13
If, as they claim, he was on meth, he wouldn't have been thinking clearly. Also, he'd been tblue37 Dec 2019 #14
Good point. nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #17
Something is missing for sure fescuerescue Dec 2019 #29
Well he knew the suspect in carjacking. LisaL Dec 2019 #36
That itself is highly unusual. fescuerescue Dec 2019 #39
My rule of thumb: When it doesn't make sense, ecstatic Dec 2019 #38
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2019 #41
Well I tend to default to that to when it comes to cops fescuerescue Dec 2019 #42
"Officials did not say whether the officers were using lights and sirens" dalton99a Dec 2019 #10
One would think that would be 2naSalit Dec 2019 #20
Video. The part where Blount stops and approaches the car starts at 4:02. tblue37 Dec 2019 #21
FTP. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2019 #18
Well,Sanoma County Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #31
Fire them, lock them up & long restitution required after gets out of jail. lark Dec 2019 #32
White male authority figures... stillcool Dec 2019 #35
Not just white ones. Tipperary Dec 2019 #44
There was a time, back when I was protesting the Vietnam war not_the_one Dec 2019 #37
glad you posted that stopdiggin Dec 2019 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Dec 2019 #43
I need more coffee maxrandb Dec 2019 #45
update Demovictory9 Dec 2019 #46

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
1. Isn't this kind of violence
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:43 AM
Dec 2019

Promoted by trump , claiming police shouldn't be nice? trump likens violence to power, and uses it to incite people for him, then denies he had anything to do with it. Didn't Charlie Manson use those tactics too before he went to prison?

pansypoo53219

(20,981 posts)
5. my grandfather's cousin was a cop. he treated EVERYBODY like a human. even vice suspects got respect
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 08:05 AM
Dec 2019

that is how you cop.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
16. I have a good friend who's a cop.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:27 AM
Dec 2019

She treats everyone well, and she’s done so much for some of the people she’s come into contact with over the years.

She hates bad cops.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
7. Why I can't stand "Law & Order" and some other cop shows for the way they treat prisoners.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 08:36 AM
Dec 2019

Why I like"Criminal Minds" because they even treat inhuman serial killers like humans.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
12. Treating people well is the best way to get confessions.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:10 AM
Dec 2019

Good interviewers pretend they understand killers' motives and stressors.

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
8. Wow. AFTER slamming his head, they also Tased him and put him in a choke hold:
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:03 AM
Dec 2019
Little then fired a Taser at Ward. As Ward continued to move, Blount tried to put him in a carotid restraint, which police sometimes use to block a person’s carotid arteries and cause them to become unconscious. The hold appeared to last for about 30 seconds.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
22. That's not just overkill,
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:49 AM
Dec 2019

its flat out sadistic - using brute force just because you can. Police officers need to go through periodic psychological evaluations and some should have never been hired in the first place.

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
24. They Tased him more than once, too. Basically, they were just really pissed off, especially
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:29 PM
Dec 2019

Last edited Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:26 PM - Edit history (2)

since he had bitten two of them. They wanted to show him who's boss.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
30. And I think many people
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:13 PM
Dec 2019

are just waiting for an opportunity to use brute force. I'm sure it takes very little to set some of them off.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
33. Periodic psych evals should be mandatory
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 02:14 PM
Dec 2019

for everyone in law enforcement and maybe some other professions where the job gives one total authority over others, like ICE and CBP agents.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
34. Absolutely
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 02:28 PM
Dec 2019

There are too many people who given the opportunity will let their perceived authority go to their head, plus the stress of the job could bring out the worst in some. These are important and necessary occupations and the oversight and support should be comprehensive and ongoing. Also punishment for abuse of power should be severe, especially for those who have sworn to serve and protect.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
11. I don't get that either. Or why he wouldn't get out of the car.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:04 AM
Dec 2019

I don’t understand why anyone runs from the cops.

All that being said, that cop is a fucking murderer.

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
14. If, as they claim, he was on meth, he wouldn't have been thinking clearly. Also, he'd been
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:15 AM
Dec 2019

recently carjacked.

Or maybe he feared arrest for drugs.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
29. Something is missing for sure
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:04 PM
Dec 2019

A high speed chase just doesn't make sense.

Usually when all the facts added up don't make sense. It's either because we are still missing some facts, or some falsified facts have been added to the story.

There's the part about "somehow" getting his car back. I'm guessing the "somehow" is the reason he ran. Either the original highjack story was fabricated, or he used unusual means to get his car back.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
36. Well he knew the suspect in carjacking.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 03:21 PM
Dec 2019

Suspect lived on his property. I guess it's possible suspect came back with the car, or returned the car to him.

"Ward reported the beating and carjacking to the sheriff’s office around 10:10 p.m. on Nov. 24. Ward knew Estrada, a caretaker who lived on his property, for about two months, only by his nickname “D,” Valencia said."

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2019/12/10/david-ward-sonoma-man-arrested-for-carjacking-battery-of-man-who-later-died-in-custody/

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
39. That itself is highly unusual.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 08:02 PM
Dec 2019

Carjacking is usually done between strangers. Almost always in fact.

Theft from someone you know is usually something less than a carjacking which is much more serious and dangerous crime than simple theft.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
42. Well I tend to default to that to when it comes to cops
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 01:19 AM
Dec 2019

But the rule about not making sense involves pretty much any situation you can name. Not just police ones.

dalton99a

(81,516 posts)
10. "Officials did not say whether the officers were using lights and sirens"
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:53 AM
Dec 2019
Two Sebastopol police officers — Andrew Bauer, an officer for six years who had previously worked for the Sheriff’s Office, and Ethan Stockton, an officer for two years — followed in their patrol vehicles. Officials did not say whether the officers were using lights and sirens or ordering the driver to stop.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Petaluma-man-who-died-after-police-carotid-14877227.php

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
21. Video. The part where Blount stops and approaches the car starts at 4:02.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:44 AM
Dec 2019

BTW, I am severely hearing impaired, but even I heard his head crunch when it was slammed against the door frame!

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
31. Well,Sanoma County
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:57 PM
Dec 2019

will be paying Millions on this one. The Body Cam Video will never defend the Deputy.

BTW,is not this Sheriff a member of the Oath Keepers?

lark

(23,105 posts)
32. Fire them, lock them up & long restitution required after gets out of jail.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 02:10 PM
Dec 2019

Assswipes need to pay, set enough examples and this shit wouldn't happen so often.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
37. There was a time, back when I was protesting the Vietnam war
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 03:31 PM
Dec 2019

that my attitude was "Fight the Man", "Piss Off the Pigs"...

But I grew up, lived some life, and learned some things.

When the police tell you, or ask you, to do something, it is NOT the start of a negotiation. Just Do It. Acting as if you have some control over what is going on ALWAYS ends up badly. Things easily tend to spiral out of control.

Your options if you don't are possibly ending up dead, or hopefully sorting it out through the legal system.

I say AT LEAST TRYING to sort it out through the legal system is the better option. Sometimes it gets sorted, sometimes it doesn't, but you AREN'T dead. As long as you aren't dead, you at least can still continue to try to sort...

This guy took responsibility for his own actions when he didn't notify authorities he had his car back, then decided to take the police on a high-speed car chase.

Things certainly spiraled out of control. Now he is dead.

stopdiggin

(11,317 posts)
40. glad you posted that
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:37 PM
Dec 2019

guy probably didn't deserve to end up dead .. but there's no denying he contributed heavily to what turned into a situation that was way more serious than it had to be. Just STOP already. Show your hands. Follow orders. Don't end up a statistic.

Response to stopdiggin (Reply #40)

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
45. I need more coffee
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 10:17 AM
Dec 2019

I read that headline as "Pelosi slammed a man's head into a car"

I smiled uncontrollably

Demovictory9

(32,457 posts)
46. update
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 03:28 AM
Dec 2019
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/23/us/sonoma-county-deputy-carjacking-victim-dies/index.html

Officer on leave
Sonoma County Sheriff Mark Essick handed Blount a notice of termination, and the deputy will remain on administrative leave until the investigation is complete and all appeals have been exhausted, the sheriff said in a Friday video statement.

"What our deputies did not know at the time was that Mr. Ward was not only the owner of the car, but the victim of the earlier carjacking," Essick said. "The suspect had pistol-whipped him and stole his car. Mr. Ward had recovered the car but failed to report it. It remains a mystery as to why he fled from our deputies."

Harry Stern, who is representing Blount, said Ward is responsible for his own death because he took "bizarre actions" that left deputies thinking he was an armed carjacker rather than a carjacking victim.

Stern said that it is his understanding that medical evidence will show Ward had a pre-existing medical condition and methamphetamine in his system. There are no indications of trauma to Ward's neck, the lawyer said. (Police have not said whether Ward was under the influence of drugs or alcohol, and the Marin County Coroner's Office is investigating the cause of death.)

"I am extremely disappointed in Sheriff Essick's reaction to this unfortunate incident. I view his hasty decision as a product of panic, political expediency and hindsight," Stern said in a statement that called Blount's actions "entirely reasonable."

Reached for comment, Izaak Schwaiger, an attorney for Ward's mother, said, "David was well-loved in his community. When the time for mourning has passed, justice will be done upon those responsible."
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