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Anyone out there who has Spanish as your first language, (Original Post) raccoon Dec 2019 OP
No, not really. Xipe Totec Dec 2019 #1
Yes. No real difficulty. COLGATE4 Dec 2019 #2
Portuguese is a difficult Romance language. CurtEastPoint Dec 2019 #3
You have that reversed. OliverQ Dec 2019 #6
I think of Portuguese as Romance Polish. Igel Dec 2019 #10
ruh roh. Only been to Portugal. My bad. CurtEastPoint Dec 2019 #11
Spanish is NOT my first language, yet I have read Portuguese on occasion. I doubt I could tblue37 Dec 2019 #4
You can figure out the basics nini Dec 2019 #5
Grammatically Spanish is much closer to English than most other languages are. nt tblue37 Dec 2019 #9
I've been debating about picking up Portuguese. OliverQ Dec 2019 #7
Oh, and BTW, if you know Spanish, you can also function well in Italian. Both of my kids, one tblue37 Dec 2019 #8
I found this to be true. phylny Dec 2019 #13
Yes Bluesaph Dec 2019 #12

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
1. No, not really.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:33 AM
Dec 2019

You can get a smattering of meaning, but all the subtleties are lost.

Even Galician, which is half-way between Portuguese and Castilian Spanish, is tough to follow.

CurtEastPoint

(18,650 posts)
3. Portuguese is a difficult Romance language.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:50 AM
Dec 2019

Especially listening to spoken Portuguese and even more so Brazilian Portuguese. It almost sound Slavic!
(English native speaker here but a language major)

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
6. You have that reversed.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:03 AM
Dec 2019

European Portuguese is the harder of the 2 and the one that has a bit of a slavic sound. Brazilian sounds much more like Spanish.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
10. I think of Portuguese as Romance Polish.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:06 AM
Dec 2019

Nasals, of the same sort.

Many of the same kinds of affrication and lenition.

(Although the vowel reduction's much more like Sorbian.)

tblue37

(65,409 posts)
4. Spanish is NOT my first language, yet I have read Portuguese on occasion. I doubt I could
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:53 AM
Dec 2019

understand it spoken, and the Portuguese I read wasn't demanding.

The first time occurred when I was going around the room checking the notes and outlines of students in my college composition class to help them before they started writing their essays.

One young woman had a very Spanish name, so although I knew she was from Brazil, I thought Spanish might be her first language.

When I picked up her notebook from her desk she said, "Sorry! My notes aren't in English." I glanced at them briefly and said, "No problem. I can read them. And I did. But after getting several lines down the page, I realized they weren't in Spanish, either, but in Portuguese.

Since I had no trouble reading them, I went ahead and finished reading two and a half pages of notes plus an outline in Portuguese.

For the entire semester, her notes and outlines were in Portuguese, but I never had trouble reading them.

BTW, I am nowhere near fluent in Spanish. Even back then, when not as rusty as I am now, I had lost my speaking/listening skill from lack of practice, and my reading skill in Spanish was also pretty rusty, though still not useless.

nini

(16,672 posts)
5. You can figure out the basics
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:56 AM
Dec 2019

But they’re not as close as one would think. Spanish is much easier to understand.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
7. I've been debating about picking up Portuguese.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:03 AM
Dec 2019

Have no real interest going to Brazil though, but do want to visit Portugal in the near future.

Hard to fit in when I'm also studying several other languages.

tblue37

(65,409 posts)
8. Oh, and BTW, if you know Spanish, you can also function well in Italian. Both of my kids, one
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:04 AM
Dec 2019

quite fluent in Spanish and one quite functional, though not fluent, had no trouble at all understanding and being understood when visiting Italy. Each did two study-abroads, and when their semesters were over traveled around Europe, including Italy.

My son had wanted to study Italian rather than Spanish, but I insisted on Spanish because it's such an important language in the world today, and because Spanish and Italian are mutually intelligible, as I discovered as a young woman when I had no trouble using my (then much better) Spanish to follow Italian conversations among my Sicilian grandmother and her friends.

My son forgave me for pushing him to take Spanish. He fell in love with Spain on his first study-abroad and ended up majoring in Spanish and international studies, becoming so fluent in Spanish that native speakers always assume he's a native speaker from a different Spanish speaking country.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
13. I found this to be true.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 04:26 PM
Dec 2019

We went to Italy at the end of September and not only did I understand much of what Italians were saying, but many of them understood and spoke Spanish. It did help bridge the gap.

Our last taxi driver apologized, “No English” and I replied, “Io, solo inglese e spagnolo.” He then spoke to me in fluent Spanish. He asked at one point in Spanish, “Does your husband understand Spanish?” and when I told him no, he replied, “All the better!”

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