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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:27 AM Dec 2019

Russian mercenaries spearheading the battle for Libyan capital Tripoli

The security chief of Libya’s UN-backed government in Tripoli said Russian mercenaries backing rebel commander Khalifa Hifter are now spearheading a battle to capture the capital.

Fathi Bashagha, the interior minister for the Tripoli-based Government of National Accord (GNA), said fighters with the Russian group, headed by a confidant of Russian president Vladimir Putin, are leading the battle on the frontlines in Tripoli’s outskirts, which has been accompanied by heavy shelling. “Our fighters report that all the attacks are now being done by the Russians,” Bashagha said in a phone interview.

Western officials say more than 1,000 Russian mercenaries have arrived since September to back Hifter’s rebel National Army in his nine-month offensive to capture Tripoli.

The new tensions are hampering efforts by the United Nations and European countries to usher in a ceasefire and peace deal, centered around a conference in Berlin that has been postponed several times. Russia hopes to regain billions of dollars in oil and military contracts it lost when Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi was ousted and killed by rebel forces in the 2011 Arab spring revolts and Nato intervention. To Moscow, Libya is also a part of a strategy to extend Russian influence across the Middle East and Africa.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/middle-east/article/3043122/libya-conflict-russian-mercenaries-shadowy-wagner-group-are

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Russian mercenaries spearheading the battle for Libyan capital Tripoli (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Dec 2019 OP
How is that regime change policy in Libya working out? soryang Dec 2019 #1
The regime change wars and covert actions are terrible. David__77 Dec 2019 #2
Rice was among the leaders pushing for R2P thinking. Igel Dec 2019 #3
Turkey supports the other side (GNA) with weapons, $, UAV support etc.. nt EX500rider Dec 2019 #4

soryang

(3,299 posts)
1. How is that regime change policy in Libya working out?
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:17 PM
Dec 2019

Hafter spent nearly two decades in Langley, Virginia, in the US, gaining U.S. citizenship.

David__77

(23,423 posts)
2. The regime change wars and covert actions are terrible.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:21 PM
Dec 2019

The US should not have led NATO in attacking Libya.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
3. Rice was among the leaders pushing for R2P thinking.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:28 PM
Dec 2019

She was not the primary leader. She *was* the primary leader reported in the US press because, well, she's a US person and the US press is in the US. It would have been strange for anything else. That's far from saying that the US press presented everything from a "we're in outer space and want to give a random, representative sample of the advocacy for the Libyan intervention." Our biased memories represent the bias towards local politics being locally important for those locals who are politically aware.

And as for NATO, the overall politics were were also local. Countries getting swamped with refugees (or threatened with swampage) actually led the battle. US provided logistics, the "leading from behind" strategy that reminds me more of Pierson's puppeteers than traditional imperialist thought. France and Italy lead the way. I think the best we did was help in a naval embargo during the siege of Tripoli. (You know, a siege, where food and medical supplies can't get in?)

Then again, it was the Soviet Cold War insurgency strategy, so there's that.

As soon as the goal was met--making sure that the centrifugal forces that Gaddhafi was brutally repressing could flower in his absence, NATO said, "Let a thousand flowers bloom, and be sure to cut and send us some in gratitude." Then they all but abandoned the country. People were happy to do this.

Many supporters of Gaddhafi throughout the '80s, '90s, '00s were suddenly vehemently anti-Gaddhafi. Oddly, their vehemence increased as his oppression and hate-mongering decreased under a bit of threat after Lockerbie, but certainly after 2001 and 2003 and when it was proven (by seizing one of his ships) that he was in cahoots with North Korea and doing some nasty military-related smuggling.

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