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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:53 AM Dec 2019

Amazon Keeps Close Track of Me. You, too, if you use it.

And that's OK with me, frankly. I was reminded of that yesterday. A couple of nice people in my family gave me Amazon gift cards for Christmas. Always a welcome gift. I was wondering what would be good things to spend them on, so I went off to Amazon's website.

One of the things I had been thinking about was buying a new pair of running shoe-type boots. Well, when the Amazon page opened, there was a picture of the ones I had bought almost exactly a year ago. Same boots. Same great price, too, for them. A year. That's about how long shoes last for me. So, Amazon thoughtfully showed me the boots I had bought before. I like them. They fit well and have good soles that work well on snowy sidewalks. So I bought another pair yesterday.

Thanks, Amazon, for saving me a little time. They don't always get it right like that, but I can easily ignore the other suggestions the site makes for me. Amazon remembers all the things I buy. It remembers all the things I search for. I can count on seeing gifts for my wife on occasions like her birthday. Amazon remembers. That's what good retailers have always done They remember you, your name, your preferences, your typical budget for things, and your past purchases.

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Amazon Keeps Close Track of Me. You, too, if you use it. (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2019 OP
Two thoughts... 2naSalit Dec 2019 #1
Well, I tend to use it as a reminder that I need to think about a gift. MineralMan Dec 2019 #5
I created an alias awhile back & I use that alias to shop on line. Kaleva Dec 2019 #6
When I need to 2naSalit Dec 2019 #13
How do you do it so they don't tie back Nature Man Dec 2019 #27
I use the DuckDuckGo search, Brave browser and Tor Kaleva Dec 2019 #29
Didn't know about that! Nature Man Dec 2019 #34
You can turn off the Amazon tracking feature FakeNoose Dec 2019 #2
As I sink deeper into old age and my physical abilities decline, comradebillyboy Dec 2019 #3
Understand and agree. Skidmore Dec 2019 #11
I was hospitalized with surgery.. HipChick Dec 2019 #12
Me too. Amazon has built a business model that puts the customer ooky Dec 2019 #36
It's not just amazon...Salesforce is a company that provides the platform HipChick Dec 2019 #4
Yes, you're right, of course. MineralMan Dec 2019 #7
Can you call the florist directly and cut out the middle man profit? Patterson Dec 2019 #28
I could, I suppose, but they won't make the same arrangements MineralMan Dec 2019 #30
Also available on Amazon Rorey Dec 2019 #8
LOL! MineralMan Dec 2019 #10
I have a lot of issues with Amazon as a company PatSeg Dec 2019 #9
I'm a big fan of etsy.com, at least of the individual craftspersons who MineralMan Dec 2019 #14
I've also used Ebay PatSeg Dec 2019 #18
I use eBay for some things, for sure. MineralMan Dec 2019 #19
If I find something I want on Ebay, PatSeg Dec 2019 #21
I really never buy anything new on eBay. MineralMan Dec 2019 #22
I don't care for the auction format either PatSeg Dec 2019 #23
Big problem with this buddy. cwydro Dec 2019 #15
Ha! When it arrives, it's mine. MineralMan Dec 2019 #16
Lol. I'm perusing Amazon as I post! cwydro Dec 2019 #17
Amazon will help you find nothing to buy. MineralMan Dec 2019 #20
Even I can't keep track of me. If Amazon can, good luck to them. DFW Dec 2019 #24
Nice Amazon commercial... lame54 Dec 2019 #25
Amazon needs no help from me, frankly. MineralMan Dec 2019 #31
Amazonaclaus. It knows when you've been sleeping, it knows when you're awake, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #26
Only Google knows more. Way more. MineralMan Dec 2019 #32
It knows if you've been bad or good, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2019 #33
i so agree MFM008 Dec 2019 #35
KnR for good points. Happy Holidays & New Year too.... Hekate Dec 2019 #37

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
1. Two thoughts...
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:57 AM
Dec 2019

So much for "it's the thought that counts" element of acknowledging someone and diminishes the specialness of the occasion. And, nice to know bigbrother is watching you.

I have no such devices in my personal environment, I like that I still have a little privacy somewhere.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
5. Well, I tend to use it as a reminder that I need to think about a gift.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:05 PM
Dec 2019

After seeing such a reminder recently, I left Amazon for Etsy.com, where I searched for a gift for my wife. She was very pleased with the work of the jewelry maker who created the anniversary gift I gave her.

So, you see, I don't have to buy from Amazon just because it reminded me that I have done so in the past for an occasion. It's my choice - always. On the other hand, for that pair of shoes, those would have been the ones I searched for, but didn't have to.

Such websites often suggest things, but you can easily ignore their suggestions. Lots of retailers used to do things like that. If you patronized their store regularly, you could count on being greeted by name when you went in and also count on the long-term staff to know a bit about your preferences, etc. "Hi, George! How can we help you today?" There's no difference, really, between that and Amazon's much more precise memory of your purchases.

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
6. I created an alias awhile back & I use that alias to shop on line.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:10 PM
Dec 2019

The alias has it's own e-mail address, cell phone and number, and on-line accounts at Amazon, Walmart, Lowes, Home Depot, and Target. When paying, I just use non-reloadable or gift cards which I get at nearby Dollar General and Family stores. Merchandise is sent to another place and not my home.

Using an alias is perfectly legal as long as you aren't using it to commit fraud or other crimes.

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
13. When I need to
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:15 PM
Dec 2019

do anything of that sort, transactions online, I have an alias as you have. I also use prepaid gift credit cards for everything I do with regard to purchases online. If anything costs more than the amounts allowed for gift cards, I wouldn't be buying it online in the first place.

I do not like machines that talk to me and I certainly wouldn't want a monitoring device of any kind in my home. The price for convenience is often unseen until it's time to pay up.


Nature Man

(869 posts)
27. How do you do it so they don't tie back
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 03:52 PM
Dec 2019

to your IP address which I guess can show your identity due to your account with your ISP?

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
29. I use the DuckDuckGo search, Brave browser and Tor
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 04:15 PM
Dec 2019
https://www.torproject.org/download/

Tor hides your ISP address but you'll have to jump some extra hoops in order to log on to some sites. Amazon requires a one time password to be entered that they send to your email address that you are using. Walmart makes you go through several of this pictures where you prove you are not a robot. Another thing is that pages take longer to laod when using Tor.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
2. You can turn off the Amazon tracking feature
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:00 PM
Dec 2019

You can also delete the archive of previous pages you've visited. It doesn't prevent them from starting a new archive, but at least they won't keep ghosting you with old ones.

I do find it annoying at times, but it's also (occasionally) helpful. Whenever I see something on Amazon that I really want to remember I save it on my wishlist. Then I'm OK deleting the stuff that Amazon tries to save on me.

comradebillyboy

(10,154 posts)
3. As I sink deeper into old age and my physical abilities decline,
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:01 PM
Dec 2019

Amazon has been a real boon to me. Amazon makes my life easier. Maybe they are too big and powerful but they reliably deliver the goods. Jeff Bezos is a visionary capitalist in the mold of Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, Steve Jobs and Bill Gates.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
11. Understand and agree.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:13 PM
Dec 2019

Don't drive much and can't tolerate the cold or malls. I use Amazon for ordering my splints. Reward points have covered the entire cost of products at times. I can we also get new entertainment and books quickly.

Remembering waiting for the new Sears and Penney's catalogs to arrive each season.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
12. I was hospitalized with surgery..
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:13 PM
Dec 2019

few times in the last years, with no family around, Amazon delivering groceries was a boon for me...not allowed to drive, and no friends/buddy around....I hobbled to the front door, in between pain meds..to get my groceries
I agree about Jeff Bezos...

ooky

(8,924 posts)
36. Me too. Amazon has built a business model that puts the customer
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:22 PM
Dec 2019

first. I think a lot of retailers slowly forgot about the customer. Amazon is doing a lot of things for customers that their competitors don't do as well. I think that's why so many people use Amazon. That's why I use Amazon. They have stuff in stock. They deliver quickly and consistently and economically. They have most of the things I want to buy and can't find elsewhere. And, they do all these things better than most any of their competitors for the kinds of things I buy from them. Their competitors need to step up the quality of their service, or people are going to go to Amazon to get their stuff.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
4. It's not just amazon...Salesforce is a company that provides the platform
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:03 PM
Dec 2019

for retailers and corporation to increase sales, targeted customers etc..works very well
Salesforce is a billion dollar revenue company..

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
7. Yes, you're right, of course.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:10 PM
Dec 2019

I often send flowers to my 95-year-old mother, since I can't visit her nearly as often as I'd like. I use Teleflora, because their member florist in her town always does a great job. I recently sent a Christmas arrangement to her. I picked one from the Christmas page, but didn't buy it, because Teleflora reminded me that I had bought that exact same arrangement two years ago.

Now, my mother, who has advanced Alzheimer's wouldn't have remembered that, but I still didn't want to send the same thing, so I looked for another arrangement to send this year.

As I pointed out to someone else in this thread, that kind of personalization is the same as retailers have always used, when they could. In small retail businesses, the most successful were the ones who remembered you when you came in another time. The better their memory, the better they could serve you. It's just automated now.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
30. I could, I suppose, but they won't make the same arrangements
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 04:17 PM
Dec 2019

without going through Teleflora. I don't mind, really. Back in the early 90s, Teleflora did a solid for the shareware software industry. When I was the Chairman of the Board of the Association of Shareware Professionals, my main accomplishment was finding someone who would handle credit card orders for our members. This was pre-internet, and the banks and other credit card processors wouldn't even talk to us about online orders, and stuff like that.

The CEO of Teleflora, though, was interested in the shareware marketing concept. I met with him and convinced him to come up with a way we could handle credit card orders. Before long, there was an MS-DOS program that let us enter the orders, along with the customers CC info, and send them via modem through Teleflora's credit card system. The software emulated a card swipe machine. Once a month, we got a check from Teleflora, with just a modest processing fee.

So, I'm pretty loyal to that company. They understood the concept of small businesses (their local florists) and their needs. They took a chance and gave us a way to accept credit card purchases. It was a major breakthrough for many of our members. I used that processing system for many years, until Intuit offered credit card services to small businesses.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
8. Also available on Amazon
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:11 PM
Dec 2019

My grandson wants some of those strawberry candies that are in the Hickory Farms boxes, so I looked on Amazon, and Amazon thought I might be interested in a pooping Trump candy dispenser. Amazon is wrong about this, but I still laughed.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
9. I have a lot of issues with Amazon as a company
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:11 PM
Dec 2019

but I do find them very helpful when it comes to shopping, much like a good sales clerk in a store, something we rarely encounter anymore. I appreciate the things they do well, though I wish they paid their share of taxes and treated their employees better.

Meanwhile, I do make an effort to shop elsewhere when I can. There are so many excellent small businesses struggling to compete. I'll pay a little bit more if it gives money to a small business.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
14. I'm a big fan of etsy.com, at least of the individual craftspersons who
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:16 PM
Dec 2019

market their goods there. I found a unique piece of jewelry there for my wife's anniversary. The person who made it was also the seller. I looked at many, many items before choosing it, and she loved it.

Many small businesses are operating with the help of online retailers and websites. Even Amazon has many small businesses who depend on Amazon's search capabilities to offer customers unique products. I order from those as often as I can.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
18. I've also used Ebay
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:22 PM
Dec 2019

a lot, as their are many small businesses who sell there. Some turn out to be Amazon, but I've learned how to recognize them. I rely a lot on online shopping as I don't get out as much as I used to.

I agree Etsy is a great site, so many unique items to choose from.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
19. I use eBay for some things, for sure.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:30 PM
Dec 2019

I found a charming pair of antique Edwardian cameo earrings for my wife there.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
21. If I find something I want on Ebay,
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:17 PM
Dec 2019

I'll go to Amazon and read the customer reviews. I bought most of my camera equipment, new and used, on Ebay. The service of these sellers has gotten really competitive. They really do try harder. Not wanting to get a bad review, they'll go out of their way to accommodate their customers.

Meanwhile, I buy everyday items mostly on Amazon and occasionally Target.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
22. I really never buy anything new on eBay.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:22 PM
Dec 2019

However, if I'm looking for old stuff or antiques, that's where I go first. I tend to look first at Buy It Now items. I dislike the auction format, and I often find things in the Buy It Now listings that are actually underpriced. If I'm looking for something in particular, I search daily for BIN items until I find one that is selling at a price I like and then buy it instantly.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
23. I don't care for the auction format either
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:33 PM
Dec 2019

I almost always go for "buy it now" items. The auctions are often too much like a game and you could end up paying more for something in the heat of the competition. Target's online service has really come a long way. With a their red card, you get free shipping and 5% off, plus you can return items at any store. It took awhile for them to get the hang of it, but for the most part, they are excellent.

Ebay is a great place to shop for books. There are some wonderful used book sellers there.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
20. Amazon will help you find nothing to buy.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:31 PM
Dec 2019

You might not need it, but they have it waiting for you.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
24. Even I can't keep track of me. If Amazon can, good luck to them.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 03:28 PM
Dec 2019

I often don't know two days in advance what country I'll be in. If Amazon does, they're welcome to let me know. It would help me plan my week better.

I must not use them enough.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
31. Amazon needs no help from me, frankly.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 04:27 PM
Dec 2019

I know a couple of people who work at an Amazon distribution center. They're not complaining about it. I guess mileage varies.

I'm just an Amazon customer. The company saves me time and money.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
26. Amazonaclaus. It knows when you've been sleeping, it knows when you're awake,
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 03:48 PM
Dec 2019

and it knows what you've ever shopped for online.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
37. KnR for good points. Happy Holidays & New Year too....
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:33 PM
Dec 2019

Can Amazon deliver us a President Pelosi? And a ton of coal to Mar A Lago?

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