before he resigns.

it will be because he & his family will be promised pardons for their crimes! I think that's the only way he would voluntarily leave.

a platinum parachute. To compete with Putin he would have to get at least $22 billion from the US Treasury for his 3 years.

where he'll end up.

now that Wakanda is our trading partner!

I love that. I saw it earlier and it does look like a software tester forgot to remove that when testing was done, but with this misadministration, who knows anymore! LOL

yesterday I heard Ari Melber say the same thing, that he can't be pardoned after impeachment. Awhile back I read an article that suggested he might leave if offered a pardon. I read the article again yesterday & it said he could get a pardon before being impeached! Sorry, I overlooked that detail.

But I would argue that once they begin going thru the steps to impeach which should include any hearings any pardon is not legitimate. So Nixon's pardon probably unconstitutional.

many people were very opposed to Nixon's pardon!

Ford thought that & maybe some republicans too but it was a BS excuse! Many dems hated that pardon because he wasn't being punished, as dems thought he should be!

Because the alternative may be worse. ie. Trump foments a second Civil War.

Or he gets re-elected. And in the next four years he and Moscow Mitch radically change laws to retroactively allow the kind of interference that occurred in the Ukraine. Also more executive powers, more lax laws surrounding money laundering. Meanwhile State Republicans dismantle whats left of fair voting, and drops thousands more Democratic voters from the rolls.


I can almost see it now if we won. We are all so relieved to to be rid of Trump, and have a Democratic President again, that much like when Obama "moved forward" and ignored the crimes of the Bush admin, the whole Trump family, and any top Republicans (Lindsey?) who also were in on the dark money train from Russia, will all be given pardons, or a pass on further investigations.....for the good of the country.

For the good of the country? Not in the long term. I hope that the Democrats don't do a half job. That once in power again, they will "move forward" and allow Trump to re-gather his deplorable army, crying and whining and boasting how if he had done ANYTHING wrong at all , they would have got him. And that his freedom proves that Democrats just tried to make up shit on him.

Question: Can a former President, like Trump, if he's only served 4 years, return to be a candidate again to run for four more? Because if true, and he's not killed himself with MacDonalds, fried chicken, and Sudifed, I can totally see him returning in all his gold enamelled glory in 2024, and be a real threat. Having 4 years to whip up Republicans along with Fox News and RW media. We must finish him off once we do, hopefully, gain a majority.

I’ve been thinking recently: regardless of whether Trump is “acquitted” in the Senate, if I were #46 Trump would be in jail as SOON as humanly possible. As President, I would be in charge of the Justice department, right? There you go. Whomever I chose as Attorney General had better be with me on this one, or s/he would be fired. I’ll find SOMEONE willing to lock that bastard up and bring him to true justice eventually...

At least that is my understanding.

I wasn't even thinking of state charges

I really hope I am 100% wrong, but I see violence coming. The creature has been promoting violence for a long time, his followers are non-thinkers, they are violent, and they have been waiting for someone like the creature to give them the go-ahead, so I do see bad things happening. Like the idiot on the video who threatened to come out with his "Magnum 45"?

I just hope that both the police and the military will be forceful enough to stop them on their tracks. I have a feeling that most of them are cowards, and when the time comes to really go out and they see the possibility of bullets coming at them, they will run. There are some ex-soldiers who will fight, but a great majority will run.

I just hope, as you, the military mainly keeps him in check. I think the police would definitely fire on American citizens, especially minority citizens.

share their opinion of their own "unshakable" authority and popularity.

a course of action that will end in Trump's resignation or his conviction. It may only take one witness, but Pelosi will go for all four. She will go for the whole lot of them. Put them on the stand and GOP Senators will eat crow.

Scaramucci is right on this issue. Pelosi will run the table, partly because the overwhelming common sense of her tactics will turn the nation decidedly against a kangaroo trial.

The Senate either convicts or the Constitution is dissolved. That's what's at stake.

At this point, we can wait it out for SCOTUS to rule that they must testify before Congress.

given THIS supreme court, DOJ, etc etc etc

It would be a scenario necessary to put an end to all of this insanity, but I sure wouldn’t count on it. It would be too easy given the level coverups and obstruction being perpetrated by this weasel administration and senate. They’ll never let it happen

me think otherwise.

Unless there are witnesses testifying, there should be no Senate trial. We're better off with paralysis than Mooch analysis.

Scaramucci as Bookmaker scares me. When has he been right? I never did understand his claim to fame or how he got to where he is, or why his opinion is sought by anyone.

gets the eyeballs, and the attention, worthy or not....

Too bad that is his ONLY claim to fame...

complicit in his dirty deeds. Not a single one of them has "clean hands".

Give me a few minutes - I'll think of least a dozen more names.

He still gets attention?

Saw him with Joy and thought about how willing and eager he was to kiss SHITLER's ass for those 11 days and behaved during those 11 days the wacked out a-hole way he thought would please SHITLER. I wonder why he wants to be accepted into decent society now, but even more, why he's accepted by respectable venues like The View and Joy.

I mean Scaramucci? Is it necessary to give these slugs any more face time?

The fact that people who have been indicted, who have served time in jail can run for office is wrong, that people who have been involved in as many lawsuits as trump can run for office is wrong. A good example is Matt Gaetz of Florida, convicted for DUI and there he is, spewing stupidity in Congress.

Like Scaramucci who showed the world he is a leach but is now pretending to be a respectful human being is also wrong. Why would Joy invite him? His opinions are worthless, at least to me.

Barr is the worst of them all, and the most dangerous, he needs to be impeached next.

But still include him so he compounds his problem.

"could provide enough direct evidence...".

Gonna be a lot of failing memory.

against other Republicans in Washington.
Makes me wonder how many Republicans in Washington would literally shit themselves if that would happen.

...(if any of those four end up agreeing/forced to testify) because the prospect of that testimony would be too awful for him. I doubt that, because...

...Trump may not assume they would tell the truth, even under oath. After all, he wouldn't. He's been under oath before and lied. (And even if they're accused of perjury, he has the potential to pardon them.)

...even if they tell the truth and it's awful, I think Trump assumes he has always been and will continue to be teflon. Whatever bad thing someone says, he'll say it's a lie, or come up with some suitable (to him) explanation, or say that even if it's true, it's not illegal, etc. etc. I'm not sure it's in his nature to have ANY fear of consequences.

like you said, they will lie. I would still want to see them testify.

During the inquiry, it was so obvious how republicans lied, Schiff and Nadler both did a good job countering their lies, but they continued, it is amazing how they don't care to be found out in front of the World.

he would severely create much more havoc on the USA.

Are you implying Republicans are all powerful Oz and we Dems are impotent wimps?

Dems never served and we own pool noodles for self defense?

Please!

to diss Trump. Or, he's just peddling himself to find a new gig.

And I would rather see Barr than Giuliani on this list.

the only path of vindication is to get re-elected. If Pence promises to pardon him, he might resign. But I think that he will hold out for re-election. He is such a stupid man, mired in denial of reality and delusions of grandeur. He has probably convinced himself that he will be exonerated by getting re-elected. He will not be re-elected. When the Mormon women and the lead Evangelical magazine turn against him, it's over.

Former White House Counsel McGahn, still a Trump supporter, testified that Trump ordered him to lie about Trumps efforts to obstruct Mueller. That is smoking gun proof a Trump obstructed justice. Trump says McGahn is lying. Trump would just say Pompeo was lying.