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KentuckyWoman

(6,688 posts)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 05:12 PM Dec 2019

"We will put him in office again.suck on that democrats."

A facebook post by a relative I'm not particularly close to... for obvious reasons. I've kept to my own on these issues on social media. I use it to keep in touch with nieces spread out all over. But I've had it up to my whatzit with this silliness.

So I Replied

A little more than half of Americans consistently vote for Democratic Party candidates, including me. I do so because I believe in the christian teachings of helping people in need, being fair, loving everyone equally, and working toward the best good for all mankind.

Your post signifies that you clearly have no respect for me, nor your neighbors, friends and family who differ with you on the solutions to the issues facing America. The only reason you are voting for Trump because of ugly spite. You are so hateful, that you'll put a man in office guaranteed to destroy the integrity of our elections rather than allow members of your own family to have a fair say in how this country is run.


She vanished from my friends list within 6 minutes.

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"We will put him in office again.suck on that democrats." (Original Post) KentuckyWoman Dec 2019 OP
I think your relative belongs to a fairly large group, dewsgirl Dec 2019 #1
The day they are anxiously awaiting is to tune in to watch executions of women who Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #3
These people jerk-off to "death" fwvinson Dec 2019 #15
Absolutely! attraction to killing, torture and control are prevalent StClone Dec 2019 #55
Yikes😳.....likely very true, although I'm positive almost all dewsgirl Dec 2019 #16
They will never see that. nt Blue_true Dec 2019 #26
Imprisonment they will see, the entire court system is being filled Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #49
One thing I don't understand is why they insist on their religiouds beliefs being the law of napi21 Dec 2019 #60
They have been told and believe that what you just said is a lie. That we are Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #73
Hmmm...perhapse an interesting history lesson is in order. That's where I learned the facts. n/t napi21 Dec 2019 #75
Those people believe what their ministers tell them. Blue_true Dec 2019 #80
"Kill 'em all", is the solution. I've been informed. czarjak Dec 2019 #56
Trained by Mush Limpballs and a myriad of right wing weirdos on the radio mdbl Dec 2019 #65
I've had a similar experience pandr32 Dec 2019 #2
they hate us more than they care about anything else nt Grasswire2 Dec 2019 #63
Meh, good riddance. CrispyQ Dec 2019 #4
+ 1 SuprstitionAintthWay Dec 2019 #17
Spot on NT Rorey Dec 2019 #29
You did the right thing. Karadeniz Dec 2019 #5
You Were More Civil Than I Would Have Been JimGinPA Dec 2019 #6
+1000 Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #18
Or I. I would have said soldierant Dec 2019 #20
Let me apologize in advance Gymbo Dec 2019 #7
Take it. KentuckyWoman Dec 2019 #10
I've lost long distance snowybirdie Dec 2019 #8
Some people are only happy when others are getting screwed. hadEnuf Dec 2019 #9
Misery enjoys company. roamer65 Dec 2019 #13
I was watching The Dark Knight last night. Initech Dec 2019 #28
Don't forget... czarjak Dec 2019 #57
We're currently being run by the Jokers and Banes of the world. Initech Dec 2019 #61
The only known Trumper cousin in my extended clan de-friended me 10 years ago lambchopp59 Dec 2019 #11
The margin by which Trump leads among low-education whites is staggering. SuprstitionAintthWay Dec 2019 #19
I'd bet that if you could check folks attending one of Trumps hatefests captain queeg Dec 2019 #22
Makes me wish I had a way to stop my FICA from getting to them. roamer65 Dec 2019 #24
I don't call Social Security - regular Social Security "the government dole." soldierant Dec 2019 #23
So what pisses you off about SSDI? Nature Man Dec 2019 #25
I do know of one person getting it who does not deserve it. roamer65 Dec 2019 #30
He doesn't drive a "welfare cadillac," does he? Nature Man Dec 2019 #32
Nope, but he's gaming the system. roamer65 Dec 2019 #33
I know several doing the same. In my line of work, its easy to find them. oldsoftie Dec 2019 #43
These are the reasons I favor a basic universal income. roamer65 Dec 2019 #45
But do you think people would go along with getting rid of them even if you get a check? oldsoftie Dec 2019 #58
SSDI is pretty tough to get. soldierant Dec 2019 #36
He covers up his workshop windows so no one can see into it. roamer65 Dec 2019 #38
I don't know about that. llmart Dec 2019 #67
Mental health issues soldierant Dec 2019 #77
Nothing pisses me off about it. soldierant Dec 2019 #34
understood Nature Man Dec 2019 #35
It mostly hinges on the attorney you employ to get it. roamer65 Dec 2019 #37
If we had a basic universal income, we could get rid of SSDI, SS and any other programs. roamer65 Dec 2019 #39
AMEN to that! soldierant Dec 2019 #78
Trump lovers often thrive on bitterness and hate. Sloumeau Dec 2019 #12
It seems like it is always the Republicons that start doc03 Dec 2019 #14
You did what you had to do . . . hatrack Dec 2019 #21
OUTSTANDING response Skittles Dec 2019 #27
Yeah, I don't/won't/can't put politics aside Rorey Dec 2019 #31
I will NEVER put politics aside to accomodate a racist Skittles Dec 2019 #42
Very well done on your part. Paladin Dec 2019 #40
I've only had one trumper unfriend me. And he blocked me too. oldsoftie Dec 2019 #41
I love your answer FakeNoose Dec 2019 #44
Very good reply.... paleotn Dec 2019 #46
Well done. And WAY more nuanced than my reply would have been. 11 Bravo Dec 2019 #47
I vanished myself from Facebook. ☺️ OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #48
Good job. trumpers should have to face more push back. Sounds like she badhair77 Dec 2019 #50
That's right, they vote for spite and hate, nothing else. No minds. Pepsidog Dec 2019 #51
trump could easily win in 2020 Gothmog Dec 2019 #52
Bravo KW DENVERPOPS Dec 2019 #53
I'm sorry you've had to experience this, but I sincerely thank you for handling it as you did. better Dec 2019 #54
This is when it's actually easier to be black. Chicago1980 Dec 2019 #59
A pronouncement that they will make sure HE will win again, topped off by an attempt at a gay slur. not_the_one Dec 2019 #62
great response LittleGirl Dec 2019 #64
:) True Blue American Dec 2019 #66
Trump or McConnell? Or both? JoeDuck Dec 2019 #68
That one actually lives in Texas KentuckyWoman Dec 2019 #79
Trump is guilty and the evidence exists to prove his guilt! Tell that to Mitch McConnell. UCmeNdc Dec 2019 #69
A wise man told me that saidsimplesimon Dec 2019 #70
Read the headline and immediately thought it was said by Putin. Enoki33 Dec 2019 #71
Excellent. Bookmarking for that response! SunSeeker Dec 2019 #72
this is what they really mean: azureblue Dec 2019 #74
Good for you . Do you really need to invite people in your world to tell you to suck on it ? lunasun Dec 2019 #76
What worries me is that W Bush never had this support in 2004 Polybius Dec 2019 #81

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
1. I think your relative belongs to a fairly large group,
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 05:16 PM
Dec 2019

that get off on anything that owns the libs, no other real purpose or real interest in politics, other than to hate on Democrats.😞

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
3. The day they are anxiously awaiting is to tune in to watch executions of women who
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 05:22 PM
Dec 2019

have abortions, and doctors.

StClone

(11,684 posts)
55. Absolutely! attraction to killing, torture and control are prevalent
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:19 PM
Dec 2019

In the Right/Cons and it is finally being called out in many recent articles as Sadism. How nice: Authoritarianism, rejection of Science/education and Sadism. They get weirder and weirder and more dangerous.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
16. Yikes😳.....likely very true, although I'm positive almost all
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:04 PM
Dec 2019

of them, at least know someone who has had an abortion. Some of them and their partners have had them, these assholes are the biggest hypocrites in the world.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
49. Imprisonment they will see, the entire court system is being filled
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:49 PM
Dec 2019

idiots who know nothing other than they hate abortion.

It all starts when Roberts agrees to go down this road or if he doesnt, if cons keep appointing SC justices.

It is what they want, I dont want to live in the same country with people who think like that.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
60. One thing I don't understand is why they insist on their religiouds beliefs being the law of
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 12:12 AM
Dec 2019

the land. I personally would never have had an abortion, but I also don't believe I have the right to tell everyone else they have to do the same! This Country is NOT based on any religion. We are a secular society and want to remain as such.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
73. They have been told and believe that what you just said is a lie. That we are
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 01:43 PM
Dec 2019

based on Christianity and are a Christian nation.

That is a lie, of course, but they believe it and nothing will change their minds.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
80. Those people believe what their ministers tell them.
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 08:24 PM
Dec 2019

They don't try to find out for themselves.

I was at a funeral and the minister decried that young people are forsaking the church, I almost stood up and said that is because all you people teach is hating something, often things that people being hated can't change. When a young person that started in kindergarten with a gay kid and basically spent a large part of his or her life around that person is told at 17 that gay person is going to hell, that straight kid, in most cases, leave that church as soon as he or she turns 18 and never look back.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
65. Trained by Mush Limpballs and a myriad of right wing weirdos on the radio
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 06:25 AM
Dec 2019

oh and throw in fux nooze for flavor.

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
2. I've had a similar experience
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 05:19 PM
Dec 2019

After their tirade and boast that we will have to suffer tRump another five years I asked for them to explain why they support tRump so that my friends and I can perhaps learn something.
Na-da.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
4. Meh, good riddance.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 05:29 PM
Dec 2019

It's no longer a difference of opinion. It's a difference of values. It's republicans who are separating children from their parents. It's republicans that disenfranchise voters they disagree with. It's republicans who are working hard to take health care coverage away from Americans. The list goes on and it doesn't get any better. Their hypocrisy is breathtaking. There are no decent republicans.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
18. +1000
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:15 PM
Dec 2019

I would have more likely bit my tongue and simply do a "Hide All from __________", doing so has improved my newsfeed by great measures.

Gymbo

(133 posts)
7. Let me apologize in advance
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 05:38 PM
Dec 2019

But I can't help but steal your message. I have a whole nest of Trumpers in my family, and it's time for a house-cleaning.

snowybirdie

(5,229 posts)
8. I've lost long distance
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 05:46 PM
Dec 2019

relatives too this year. I've lost respect and they dislike me because of my views. Too bad, I'm content.

hadEnuf

(2,194 posts)
9. Some people are only happy when others are getting screwed.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 05:49 PM
Dec 2019

Maybe they think they are getting revenge for their own failures or something. It's very childish, but Trump party supporters have usually been dumbed down to that level.

Trumpism really is like a cult and it bears striking resemblances to Nazi indoctrination in the 1930's and 40's.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
13. Misery enjoys company.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 05:58 PM
Dec 2019

They are so deplorable, so miserable that they have to try to drag others down to their level for perceived company.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
28. I was watching The Dark Knight last night.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:31 PM
Dec 2019

Alfred's line in that movie perfectly describes Trump and his supporters:

"Some men just want to watch the world burn."

And that has all that this administration has been about - burning down the world's institutions.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
61. We're currently being run by the Jokers and Banes of the world.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 12:35 AM
Dec 2019

"You're pure evil!"
"I'm necessary evil!"

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
11. The only known Trumper cousin in my extended clan de-friended me 10 years ago
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 05:55 PM
Dec 2019

Right after I asked him to cease sending me racist memes about President Obama. I was okay with that. My older brothers, and his siblings have maintained some ties, but still unable to get him out of the Fox Noise cocoon.
He's never been known for his towering I.Q. lives off the gub-mint dole, still rants against "socialism" while collecting his

check, and still cannot catch that connection.

19. The margin by which Trump leads among low-education whites is staggering.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:15 PM
Dec 2019

Thank goodness he trails with every other demographic.

captain queeg

(10,208 posts)
22. I'd bet that if you could check folks attending one of Trumps hatefests
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:22 PM
Dec 2019

At least half would be getting social security. They don’t look like folks on a career path, just the fact they take the time to go to one of his rallies makes me doubt they have any job at all. I find SS recipients who support Trump especially ironic.

soldierant

(6,890 posts)
23. I don't call Social Security - regular Social Security "the government dole."
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:24 PM
Dec 2019

I call it, "that money the government BORROWED from me.

And I try to avoid discussing SSDI (though I firmly support it.)

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
30. I do know of one person getting it who does not deserve it.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:42 PM
Dec 2019

His quote, “I simply don’t want to work anymore”. When circumstances allow it, I will report him.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
33. Nope, but he's gaming the system.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:44 PM
Dec 2019

He does jobs on the side for cash, so he doesn’t lose it.

Same work as he did before getting it.

He’s a pretty dishonest guy and a trump lover.

SSDI is not meant to be an unemployment fund. It is for those who are truly disabled.

oldsoftie

(12,558 posts)
43. I know several doing the same. In my line of work, its easy to find them.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:10 PM
Dec 2019

You are correct; SSDI is much needed by those who ARE DISABLED. And we shouldnt have any problem with the govt weeding out the cheaters.

Apart from SSDI, the Sec 8 housing program is set up by the govt to make it damn near impossible to advance in life UNLESS you game the system. I've had tenants who did it and were able to move on and buy their own home. Following the rules, it would have never been possible.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
45. These are the reasons I favor a basic universal income.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:21 PM
Dec 2019

You just get a check. We save on all the enforcement of rules, red tape and administrative costs of all these disparate programs.

oldsoftie

(12,558 posts)
58. But do you think people would go along with getting rid of them even if you get a check?
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:20 PM
Dec 2019

Its an intriguing way of looking at UBI that i havent thought of

soldierant

(6,890 posts)
36. SSDI is pretty tough to get.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:50 PM
Dec 2019

He probably worked harder to get around the system than he would have to have just worked without it. That doesn't make it right, certainly - and if he's gaming the system he does not deserve it and more power to you.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
38. He covers up his workshop windows so no one can see into it.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:53 PM
Dec 2019

Other little games he plays as well to avoid detection.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
67. I don't know about that.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 08:17 AM
Dec 2019

I know someone that got fired from his job and he hired a lawyer that helped him get SSDI claiming he had mental health issues. He certainly had no physical disabilities. He was 60 at the time and just didn't want to work any longer.

soldierant

(6,890 posts)
77. Mental health issues
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 07:53 PM
Dec 2019

don't necessarily make a person unemployable, but there are some that can make a person unemployable for certain jobs, and some which, if uncontrolled, can pretty well make a person unemployable for just about any job. Trusting someone with full-blown, uncontrolled bipolar disorder with almost any job responsibilities is not the greatest idea. (Bipolar which is being trated and controlled is different.) PTSD can also interfere with employment.

I'm not saying no one ever slips through the cracks. That is probably impossible to prevent, humans being human. But I have seen more people I thought deserved it turned down than I have seen people I didn't think deserved it slip through.

soldierant

(6,890 posts)
34. Nothing pisses me off about it.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:45 PM
Dec 2019

It's just that should a RWNJ be smart enough to call me on the fact that SSDI is not necessarily paid in by the same peole who receive it, I don't have a good comeback handy. I do know how hard it is to get it and would never suspect that smeone did not deserve it.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
37. It mostly hinges on the attorney you employ to get it.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:50 PM
Dec 2019

The better the attorney, the better your chances.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
39. If we had a basic universal income, we could get rid of SSDI, SS and any other programs.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:57 PM
Dec 2019

Streamline it into one program with a lot less administrative cost.

It would be fairer, 2. If you can live off it, more power 2 u. If you wanna work for extra income, go for it.

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
12. Trump lovers often thrive on bitterness and hate.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 05:55 PM
Dec 2019

I'm glad you are no longer Facebook friends. What Democrat wants to read that bilge?

doc03

(35,349 posts)
14. It seems like it is always the Republicons that start
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 05:59 PM
Dec 2019

a political argument. You can be talking about any subject and they always make it political. Usually they will do it when you are outnumbered and nobody will let you get a word in. If you do they get pissed off. They are always saying he will get re-elected. Hopefully they will be so confident they don't bother voting.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
27. OUTSTANDING response
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:28 PM
Dec 2019

and to the people who say they can put politics aside because "family and friends are more important", you ENABLE this hatred

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
31. Yeah, I don't/won't/can't put politics aside
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:42 PM
Dec 2019

Not in these times.

"Deplorable" doesn't begin to describe Repubs.

oldsoftie

(12,558 posts)
41. I've only had one trumper unfriend me. And he blocked me too.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:05 PM
Dec 2019

And all I did was politely let him know EVERY TIME he posted memes containing false information. Info that he could verify easily with a 2 minute search of the internet
But he really didnt care if it was factual or not. He LIKED it.

To be fair, some folks here dont like to be corrected either. But facts arent Left or Right; they're FACTS whether we like them or not

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
44. I love your answer
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:18 PM
Dec 2019

This is inspired writing. Good job KentuckyWoman and thanks for sharing!
I may need to borrow this, with your permission.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
46. Very good reply....
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:21 PM
Dec 2019

I've noticed that righteous indignation really smacks a nerve with those people, sending them off to pout for months if not years. I cut lose with similar on some of my close family back in 2017 and haven't heard from them since. No worries though. I figure life is too short to waste some of it on angry, foolish people.

badhair77

(4,218 posts)
50. Good job. trumpers should have to face more push back. Sounds like she
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:51 PM
Dec 2019

just ran off to live in her own hateful world.

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
52. trump could easily win in 2020
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 08:12 PM
Dec 2019

I strongly disagree with the concept that the Democratic Party can nominate a weak candidate and have no problem beating trump. Most POTUS are re-elected unless there is an downturn in the economy. trump can easily be re-elected




How after everything — abysmal polls, the 2018 midterm debacle, this week’s impeachment — is a second term even a possibility? The belief that the usual rules of politics simply do not apply to this president — whether because of political dark arts or some kind of cosmic destiny — is one of the only things that unites Trump loathers and Trump loyalists.

But there is no need to look for mystical explanations. There is a path to reelection for a president who never cracks 50 percent approval in polls that is entirely plausible. It's not because the normal dynamics of politics do not apply to Trump, but because they do.....

Once again, Trump’s strategy is not about breaking precedent so much as exploiting advantages that have worked often for incumbent presidents. Incumbents usually lose when the economy is weak or they face ideological opposition from within their party — neither of which is true for him.

Time and money not spent fighting for the nomination is a big advantage — and it may not matter much that this advantage is offset by bleak national polls. The Trump team says in background interviews that it is making targeted efforts in 17 states, but a much smaller number will get the lion’s share of attention....

In sum, the Trump team can give cogent answers to the question — How will Trump win? — and they are faking it well (as skilled operatives usually do) if they don’t actually believe what they are saying. But there are too many imponderable assumptions embedded in those answers for anyone but Trump partisans to embrace them as fully credible.

Earlier, I was hopeful that trump would kill the Obama recovery but it appears that trump may have a decent economy to run on. We cannot assume that trump can be easily beaten or that the Democratic Party can nominate anyone and expect to win in 2020.

better

(884 posts)
54. I'm sorry you've had to experience this, but I sincerely thank you for handling it as you did.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:15 PM
Dec 2019

Far too often, as the saying goes, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good (wo)men to do nothing.

I do not care what relation someone is to me, respect must be earned. Sadly, far too many give friends and loved ones a pass when it comes to things like this, and honestly, that's the primary reason that so much of this bullshit still exists.

Racists will never be shamed by the targets of their racism.
Homophobes will never be shamed by the LGBTQ movement.
Fascists will never be shamed by Socialists.

But racist, homophobic, or fascist-leaning FAMILY can (and must) sometimes be shamed by family, because almost always, we are the only ones who can shame them. The judgment of our family cuts much deeper than that of literally any other group on earth, for most people.

Personally, I have absolutely zero room in my life for any of the above, and I do not care what anyone's relationship to me is. Exhibit ANY of that shit with me, and you get an express one-way ticket to Gofuckyourselfistan.


Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
59. This is when it's actually easier to be black.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:34 PM
Dec 2019

None of bullshit (for the most part) to deal with.

Thanksgiving was peaceful and christmas will be too.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
62. A pronouncement that they will make sure HE will win again, topped off by an attempt at a gay slur.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 12:51 AM
Dec 2019

Well, bless your relative's heart.

Don't worry your pretty mind about them. You are much better off without another homophobic bigot in your circle of acquaintances.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
64. great response
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:15 AM
Dec 2019

no great loss on that friend's list. I've done the same sortof. I just unfriend people that are hateful to liberals. they can suck it.

JoeDuck

(79 posts)
68. Trump or McConnell? Or both?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 10:17 AM
Dec 2019

Which one is your relative threatening to put back in office? I worry that Kentucky voters again will choose both. I expect Trump to carry Kentucky again but I hope we will kick McConnell out of office in the next election. I will vote a straight Democratic ticket but, sadly, I have become an exception.

KentuckyWoman

(6,688 posts)
79. That one actually lives in Texas
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 09:50 PM
Dec 2019

She is great granddaughter to my Aunt Linda, my favorite. She had a lot to do with how I turned out. For good or bad. Aunt Linda would not be proud of that one.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
69. Trump is guilty and the evidence exists to prove his guilt! Tell that to Mitch McConnell.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 11:49 AM
Dec 2019

Let's add the documents, Mitch!

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
70. A wise man told me that
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 12:10 PM
Dec 2019

he felt lucky to have one true friend. He had many acquaintances and meet many people as an author and Psychologist before his death.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
74. this is what they really mean:
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:36 PM
Dec 2019

"We will put him in office again.suck on that democrats."
really means:
"We will put him in office again.suck on that democracy."

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
76. Good for you . Do you really need to invite people in your world to tell you to suck on it ?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 05:32 PM
Dec 2019

Oh and they did mean you if you are a democrat.
Thank you for resisting the hate

Polybius

(15,437 posts)
81. What worries me is that W Bush never had this support in 2004
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 10:51 PM
Dec 2019

Many Republicans weren't crazy about him, and voted for him by holding their noises. This idiot's supporters are much more vocal.

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