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The danger of impeaching Trump without removing him from office has always been that we will have blown the last check we have on him. When the Senate lets him off without even a slap on the wrist, Trump will be even more unrestrained than ever. Steel yourself. Were about to get Donald Trump squared.
The last time he felt hed gotten away with his crimes was when special counsel Robert Mueller failed to find evidence of a conspiracy between Trumps campaign and the Russians during the 2016 election. Less than 24 hours after Mueller lamely testified as much to Congress, an apparently giddy Trump picked up the phone and called Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and tried to get yet another foreign leader to help him steal an election. He offered Zelensky a bribe to get him to investigate his likely opponent in 2020, Joe Biden, and tried to strong-arm Zelensky into making Ukraine the scapegoat for the 2016 Russian hacking of Democratic emails.
He wont be able to stop himself from doing it again. Hes not going to stop at doubling down. Hell triple down on everything hes pulled over the last four years.
Hes going to call Putin and promise to lift the sanctions if he chips in to get him re-elected. Hell call Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the president of Turkey. Hell talk to President Andrej Duda of Poland. Hell reach out for help from every wannabe Mussolini from South America to Singapore. And hell get it. Theyll find ways to slip him money under the table. Theyll turn loose hit squads of trolls to infect American social media with campaign propaganda.
Hes going to put the full weight of his Department of Justice behind efforts to suppress the votes of poor people, young people, blacks, Latinos, women, the LGBTQ community in fact anyone likely to vote Democratic. Hell call for investigations of every Democratic presidential candidate whos going up in the polls and announce hes got dirt on every one of them. Hes going to unleash an army of surrogate liars to spread falsehoods about his opponent. Hes going to go from one rally a week to two to three; maybe hell hold a rally every other night. Hes going to turn Air Force One into an airborne criminal command post.
Hes been practically shouting, Catch me if you can. When he gets caught, its What are you gonna do about it? His Republican backers in the House mimicked Trumps attitude during the impeachment debate on Wednesday. They didnt bother arguing that Trump had done nothing wrong. Not one of them stood up for their moment at the mic and defended Trumps character. They like it that hes a ruthless, soulless thug. Hes their kind of guy, the Republican president theyve been waiting for since Ronald Reagan.
What a depressing article, we have a full blown terrorist in the WH.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)see it all laid out.😳
madville
(7,412 posts)He will resign a day or two before the next inauguration so that Pence can give him a full pardon for all federal crimes. They will all walk away without the threat of federal prosecution hanging over their heads.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)Beats Trump to resigning, so that Trump can't get a pardon.
madville
(7,412 posts)Pence is going to want his own pardon in his pocket leaving this mess and hell get to say he was the 46th President. That would be funny though.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)But history would look at his short term presidency poorly. He was president to keep the previous president from being held accountable.
Maybe it would result in a constitutional amendment attaching some limits to the power to pardon.
DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)Agnew got nailed for corruption and was thrown out, so when Nixon bailed they installed Ford and he immediately pardoned Nixon.....
Maybe they should be launching an impeachment of Pence along with Trump?
Not that it would really make any difference, The Republican Senate would acquit him also...and anyone else that gets impeached........
Imperialism Inc.
(2,495 posts)It's never been tested in court obviously but the pardon power is broad and has no restriction against it.
Straw Man
(6,625 posts)Good thing, too.
Polybius
(15,437 posts)Think of all the 46 hats, banners, shirts etc. that will be printed up. They would have 48 hours to change them to 47.
pdxflyboy
(678 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,303 posts)Several hundred other things would be my estimate.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)I don't think we have to wait for the election, the nightmare could start the minute the Senate acquits him:
A few nights ago Rachel was interviewing a former long time executive of Trumps real estate business
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The woman said... "When this impeachment is all over, and knowing him, he will come out okay,
..HE WILL EXACT REVENGE ON A LOT OF PEOPLE,.... A LOT OF PEOPLE....(her emphasis not mine)
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He is not quite yet at the point where he can just march them out into the woods and shoot them like all his tyrant heroes/buddies do in other countries.......
I seriously think that Americans are not grasping just how serious/critical this whole matter has become.....
Americans should be deeply frightened at what we are seeing in front of us. (Let alone especially all that we can't see that they are doing and have been doing for three years behind the scenes.......)
WASF
kairos12
(12,862 posts)Aussie105
(5,403 posts)because Nancy will never sent the articles to the senate.
She will insist that the senate treats the articles seriously, and Mitch will never agree to that.
So, stalemate.
Dems then need to make a lot of noise in the media, along the lines of 'Why won't Mitch give the articles some serious treatment?'
And develop more articles of impeachment.
Even the thickest Trump supporter will eventually figure out that Mitch can't do that, because it would prove Trump is guilty.
Dems can play the waiting game, but time will just erode the credibility of Mitch and the GOP.
DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)"Even the thickest Trump supporter will eventually figure out that Mitch can't do that, because it would prove Trump is guilty." ......needs re-thinking. We all would have thought this for the last 37 months, with all the major stuff Trump, his administration, and the entire Republican party have done. Any reasonably intelligent, rational, critical thinking individual would have seen thru his contradictions, hypocrisy, and BS the first month of his administration.....none of the Trumphumpers have done anything, but rally around him even more radically.......
WASF
yaesu
(8,020 posts)Cicada
(4,533 posts)Can he resist crimes? I doubt it.