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Tennessee Hillbilly

(588 posts) Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:29 PM Dec 2019

I think Nancy is in the driver's seat.

No matter what McConnel and the repugs decide to do regarding the Senate trial, I think Nancy probably wins either way

-- If McConnel allows witnesses and documents, it will look like he caved. And the repug senators will appear to be ignoring the evidence when they vote to acquit trump.

-- But the repugs will also look bad if they conduct a short coverup sham trial.

So Nancy and the democrats probably win either way.

But even so, she should hold out and let trump stew until at least after the SOTU speech.

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I think Nancy is in the driver's seat. (Original Post) Tennessee Hillbilly Dec 2019 OP

Speaker Pelosi has got this. Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #1

If his rallies are any indication coeur_de_lion Dec 2019 #2

Maybe DENVERPOPS Dec 2019 #9

The "You lie" thing was a Republican Congressman csziggy Dec 2019 #10

Thx DENVERPOPS Dec 2019 #11

I was never a big fan DENVERPOPS Dec 2019 #13

Hopefully he'll let his freak flag fly again at the SOTU. Aussie105 Dec 2019 #3

trump is Pelosi's b----. Paladin Dec 2019 #4

Democrats should go with knee-slapping laughter at everything SOTU thing he says bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #5

Sorry, I couldn't resist---we played this today. panader0 Dec 2019 #6

Trump, McConnell, etal will rue the day they underestimated Pelosi dflprincess Dec 2019 #7

Pelosi owns the House DENVERPOPS Dec 2019 #14

she has been until now! subana Dec 2019 #8

Yep! spanone Dec 2019 #12

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)

1. Speaker Pelosi has got this.

Reply to Tennessee Hillbilly (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 08:14 PM

Dec 2019

She is the only Adult in this Daycare nightmare .

coeur_de_lion

(3,680 posts)

2. If his rallies are any indication

Reply to Tennessee Hillbilly (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:21 PM

Dec 2019

SOTU will be off the rails crazy. Pretty sure that is why she invited him. So the world can see the crazy. His rallies don't get nearly enough attention and they are straight up insane. Hopefully he'll let his freak flag fly again at the SOTU.

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)

9. Maybe

Reply to coeur_de_lion (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:50 PM

Dec 2019

the Repubs will take away his Aderall to keep him from having a hyper energized, manic, rant fest and he will go into massive withdrawal right there at the podium.

Just remember, front and center, right in front of him, he will have the Republicans best and last ditch enablers, the SCOTUS Trump cheerleading squad.......

Don't forget to count on Mr. I Like Beer, or Gorsuch, the proud son of the woman who had to resign from the Reagan cabinet for being cornered about corruption stuff with the EPA superfund cleanup money.......

Those two, (along with all the normal Republican gang, in the Supreme Court,) have an extra special need to give Trump a token of gratitude, by giving him anything he requests, constitution be damned.....

csziggy

(34,136 posts)

10. The "You lie" thing was a Republican Congressman

Reply to DENVERPOPS (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:03 PM

Dec 2019

"You lie!" outburst during Obama address

On September 9, 2009, during a joint address to congress by President Barack Obama which was nationally televised, Joe Wilson shouted "You lie!"[37][38][39][40] Obama was outlining his proposal for reforming health care and said: "There are also those who claim that our reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false—the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally."[41]

Obama's chief of staff Rahm Emanuel immediately approached senior Republican lawmakers and asked them to identify the heckler and urge him to apologize immediately.[42] Members of Congress from both parties condemned the outburst. "Totally disrespectful", said Senator John McCain (R-Arizona) of Wilson's utterance. "No place for it in that setting or any other and he should apologize immediately."

More: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Wilson_(American_politician)#%22You_lie!%22_outburst_during_Obama_address

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)

11. Thx

Reply to csziggy (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:04 PM

Dec 2019

already checked for myself and edited my entry....

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)

13. I was never a big fan

Reply to csziggy (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:27 AM

Dec 2019

of McCain, but the Republicans no longer have a statesman to keep them somewhat civil and in line like he did these past years before his death......

Aussie105

(5,402 posts)

3. Hopefully he'll let his freak flag fly again at the SOTU.

Reply to Tennessee Hillbilly (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:36 PM

Dec 2019

He's too far gone in the head to do anything else, surely?

You can lead a Trump to a teleprompter, but you can't make him follow a sane script without going off at a tangent!
(Anyway, he can't read, and can't see the big letters on the teleprompter.)

Paladin

(28,264 posts)

4. trump is Pelosi's b----.

Reply to Tennessee Hillbilly (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:39 PM

Dec 2019

I like it that way. Hope it continues for a long, long time.

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)

5. Democrats should go with knee-slapping laughter at everything SOTU thing he says

Reply to Tennessee Hillbilly (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:40 PM

Dec 2019

He would REALLY be rattled

panader0

(25,816 posts)

6. Sorry, I couldn't resist---we played this today.

Reply to Tennessee Hillbilly (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:48 PM

Dec 2019

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)

7. Trump, McConnell, etal will rue the day they underestimated Pelosi

Reply to Tennessee Hillbilly (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:28 PM

Dec 2019

But that's what sexists do.

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)

14. Pelosi owns the House

Reply to dflprincess (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:40 PM

Dec 2019

The Repubs own: Trump, The Senate, The DOJ, the Supreme Court, etc etc

Just the kind of fight the Repubs like......Grossly one sided......

subana

(586 posts)

8. she has been until now!

Reply to Tennessee Hillbilly (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:33 PM

Dec 2019

& there's no reason to think anything has changed in that regard. At this point, I don't see a down side for dems & Pelosi. If she sends articles to the Senate, we all know it will not be a trial based on democratic ideals like facts & witnesses. So it seems to me that she might as well try to get something out of McConnell before she does that. Plus nothing will happen in the Senate for a couple of weeks anyway since they're on a break.

spanone

(135,844 posts)

12. Yep!

Reply to Tennessee Hillbilly (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 12:02 AM

Dec 2019

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