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Nancy Pelosi ✔ @SpeakerPelosi
The House cannot choose our impeachment managers until we know what sort of trial the Senate will conduct.
President Trump blocked his own witnesses and documents from the House, and from the American people, on phony complaints about the House process. What is his excuse now?
8:32 AM - Dec 23, 2019
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,518 posts)She is playing this strictly by the books.
mopinko
(70,120 posts)turtle's admission about not being impartial seemed to me like it had a purpose.
he isnt stupid enough to put that out there accidentally.
he may be brazen enough, but i doubt that, too, unless there is a reason.
maybe he wanted the debate out there. not out of any sort of honor, but for his own purposes.
he may want to protect twitler, but he is a lot more concerned about keeping his majority. it's on the bubble in a big way, where a year ago, it looked locked in.
you cant be too suspicious of these criminals.
I've been thinking along the same line of thought. The cool thing is that it appears to be totally Ms Pelosi's wheelhouse and she has far more knowledge and guile than MM.
scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)vote him out
bucolic_frolic
(43,177 posts)It must be driving him crazy, which is the whole point. I think a lot of politicians of both parties would like this problem to just go away, Republicans especially because they will be slain by the Twitter machine, or the general public will be in an uproar by election day, if there is one.
So while acquittal and defeating Trump at the polls in November is entirely possible, I would place higher odds on either a Trump conviction, deal to make him resign, or acquit and election day cancelled. We are approaching the moment of truth.
onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)Tend to give trump top billings.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)shithole is guilty along with his cronies. Hell, Republicans are guilty as well.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)gibraltar72
(7,506 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)How he could make up excuses for anything .
Butterflylady
(3,544 posts)That's coming from Nancy's fiddle.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)of obstruction of Congress. This should be used against all the Republican senators up for re-election who refuse to find him guilty of that.
Marcuse
(7,488 posts)[link:https://takecareblog.com/blog/impeachment-trials-and-the-senator-s-oath-of-impartial-justice|
Rule XXV of the Senate Rules in Impeachment Trials provides the text: I solemnly swear (or affirm) that in all things appertaining to the trial of ____, now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws, so help me God.
The Senators Oath in impeachment trials addresses the tension between the political and legal character of impeachment. The requirement of impartial justice means that every Senator must decide from behind the veil of ignorance -- that is, as if he or she did not know the party affiliation of the person impeached. This includes evaluating the evidence, and deciding whether the proven misconduct justifies removal from office. Senators violate their oath if they apply friendlier standards to Presidents of their own Party than to those of the opposing Party.
bucolic_frolic
(43,177 posts)They have no choice that is good for them. And even that assumes they have no obligation to Trump other than party. Perhaps many would prefer not to vote on the subject at all. The best they can hope for is that Trump goes insane before the trial and 25thA is exercised.
alfredo
(60,074 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,177 posts)that's not the same as dealing with it. That will enrage most voters other than Trump's 34% base. Any claims of exoneration would be hollow in the extreme. It would punish the GOP in November.
alfredo
(60,074 posts)But his minions might be the ones punished
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)With the election coming up, he won't be doing himself any favors.
alfredo
(60,074 posts)napi21
(45,806 posts)erronis
(15,302 posts)I don't trust a (r)epuglicon anywhere within 10 parsecs (a long distance). I especially don't trust mcTurdle to keep to his word.
When we say that a breach of their promises will be obvious to the American people, that doesn't matter to them since they are rigging any new elections.
Leith
(7,809 posts)First they say that agent orange did not wrong.
Then they refuse to give up witnesses and documents to prove it.
First they say "what's the rush?"
Then they say "you're taking too long."
First they say they didn't do a quid pro quo.
Then they say that everybody does it and we should just get over it.
First they say there was no collusion with Russia or Putin.
Then they meet his representatives in the Oval Office with no American media allowed and translator notes confiscated.
They will say any ridiculous thing to weasel out of whatever situation they are in. They are sick buzzards and the only reason to listen to them is to point out their obvious lies.
sprinkleeninow
(20,250 posts)😆
H2O Man
(73,559 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,301 posts)is to remove Trump from office and make Pence president. They will still get everything they want, judges, anti-abortion president, etc., and they won't have a president with the mind of a 12 year old taking a wrecking ball to their political party.
They have to be seriously discussing this or they have lost their minds.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)I simply cannot understand why the GOP doesnt do this....how afraid of Trump and of what exactly are they?
Marcuse
(7,488 posts)Hestia
(3,818 posts)when he was sworn in, which he did. Gosh, remember the uproar? Is there any other reason why cocaine became so prevalent and popular?
Pence is up to his ass in the same crimes as Drumpf. He'll just pardon and be a continuation of this administration.
Let's just cut it all off at the knees and get on with our lives. Which is going to take a long time, especially now that the billionaires are running the media who are running the "messaging" on what the Democratic Party should do, which seems to be to not vote for Elizabeth, which is the very reason we should. They are scared of her.
MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)YOU are already impeached. Bwaahaaahaaa!
KPN
(15,646 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)We are so damned fortunate to have Speak Pelosi in the House. I shutter to think how this would have played out with someone else in her seat. God bless, thank you for small favors. Now, get this asshole OUT of our White House!!
cstanleytech
(26,293 posts)He can choose to do his job as he swore he would when he took his oath of office and demand sworn testimony by a witness that the White House refused to grant the House or can continue to behave like Trumps personal bidet.
dchill
(38,502 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,435 posts)here at DU to apologize PUBLICLY here and now and admit Madam Speaker has been MAGNIFICENT.
wnylib
(21,485 posts)she is showing them what it takes and how it's done. I hope they're watching and learning because they will get their day after she's done.
spanone
(135,844 posts)erronis
(15,302 posts)They will say "Sure, let's call witnesses" and then devise as many excuses as needed to not do so.
We think that their shenanigans will influence voters? The ones that are permitted to vote? The ones wearing magat caps?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Captain Zero
(6,806 posts)Should be ok for Trump to send over witnesses and documents. So show us the process so we can name managers and request the witnesses and documents for him to send over in the Senate.
wendyb-NC
(3,327 posts)he and his minions are hiding it.