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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThread to report good deeds of mainline churches. And thanks to McKim.
For a long time I've posted here and there in protest when people make disparaging remarks about "all" Christians. But McKim finally articulated the defense in such a simple, common sense way, that I think it deserves its own thread.
I'll start by reporting that the Lutheran church where we were married over 50 years ago is now housing an undocumented immigrant and her children on its second floor. This has been going on for several years, and part of the commitment is that someone else is in the church 24/7 to be a witness in case ICE barges in.
Any other stories?
McKim's post.
Main Line Churches are Social Justice Supporters
Many people are so turned off to Christianity because of these extremist churches that they fail recognize that most of our main line churches are supporting social and economic justice. They are doing Gods work and many are not aware of it. The main line churches need growth, think about joining a church and supporting their work.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212809768#post15
RainCaster
(10,883 posts)This organization has been one of the most effective organizations for helping out during a crisis. Do your own searches, they have been an active part of crises around the world. Tornadoes, hurricanes, famine, they are there helping out. Send them a donation for a specific cause or effort, and 100%of your money will go to that effort.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Not especially religious myself, but so sick of the bashing I see here,
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)A guy would think they were following the advice recorded as the words of Jesus to just do good, but don't shout about it.
The Evangelical churches are just the opposite. They are vocal, loud, and always yelling about something they oppose.
One gets heard; the other doesn't.
demosincebirth
(12,540 posts)That escape my mind at this time. St. Anthonys in SF, which serve 4K meals a day
gibraltar72
(7,506 posts)For years I've wondered why real Christians haven't aggressively tried to take back their brand.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)mcar
(42,334 posts)Several things sold me but what stood out was the fact that this church, which has about 1/3 the parishioners of the local Catholic church and struggles financially, gives every cent of its Christmas services donations to a local charity that helps the poor and homeless. That's their biggest take of the year and they give it all away.
They also take the middle and high school youth groups on a service trip every summer. My son went 4-5 times. They'd go to Appalachia and fix poor and elderly peoples' homes (through a contractor who ran such trips). These experiences affected my son and his friends deeply - and they had a blast.
It's sad that the Evangelical mega churches don't seem to be losing support, while attendance at our church is, literally, dying off (I admit that we don't go that often ourselves). The local Baptist churches are packed on Sundays.
I will also say that I was raised in the Catholic church when it was focused on social justice and charitable works. Along with the abuse scandal, I have been saddened at the church's evolution to all abortion all the time.
phylny
(8,380 posts)Our current church is ecumenical - Episcopalian, Lutheran, and Presbyterian - and our budget consists of local, state, national, and worldwide charity. We feed, clothe, and educate people (especially girls in Tanzania, where our church is the sole supporter of two different educational facilities), send needy children to camps, and our building is used by numerous community groups.
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,246 posts)good works inspire me greatly. Now that I'm retired, I hope to join a community that comes together to help, rather than to put people down.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)... a food pantry twice a month for over 20 years.
bluestarone
(16,972 posts)They are very helpful with the lower income people in the community. They provide free meals at times. They hand out food baskets during the Holiday season! While we lived in Wyoming the church there became involved in politics, which we DID NOT approve of! Our thoughts are to each their own. I WILL NOT push my religion on anybody! Your choice is your choice! So i say there are Good Churches and BAD ones!
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)to note how true followers of Christ behave. (Hint: it does NOT include insulting widows, bereaved parents, 16 year old girls, or entire nations.)
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Sojourners and Tikkun, among them.
Thank you for this.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)... feeds hundreds of street people every week.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)...are (whatever the negative attribution of the day is). The Evangelicals are a large group, currently popular amongst a certain set -- they are noisy, and they are mistaken. They are NOT everybody, and they do not speak for everybody else, not by a long shot.
Thanks for speaking up.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)87.74% financial and 97% accountability and transparancy according to charitynavigator.org
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4031
Kaleva
(36,307 posts)Staffed by volunteers who are members of local Catholic churches. I know of many who in tough times were able to get free food for themselves and families and also financial assistance for paying utilities and home heating repairs.
mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)Christian Assembly Church in Eagle Rock, California, said it raised enough money to pay off the medical debt of 5,555 struggling families in the greater Los Angeles area.
Because of the generosity of the people at Christian Assembly Church, we are able to give a Christmas gift to the people of Los Angeles, no strings attached, Tom Hughes, the churchs co-pastor, said in a video announcing the plan. He said there are 5,555 people that will benefit from the gesture and, they will all be receiving letters in the mail this week.
The church said the debt was paid off by RIP Medical Debt, a nonprofit group that claims it has abolished more than $1 billion in medical debt since its creation in 2014, according to its website. The group specializes in helping organizations purchase debt from medical providers and debt sellers for pennies on the dollar.
https://wfin.com/abc-health/california-church-says-it-paid-off-5-million-in-medical-debt-for-5555-families/
acts of kindness motivate me enormously. Since I'm resigned, I would like to join a network that meets up to help, as opposed to put individuals down.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)It's worth clicking on the link to see it all. The ELCA is the 5th largest protestant denomination in the U.S. with 4.5 million members.
https://download.elca.org/ELCA%20Resource%20Repository/Slavery_Apology_Explanation.pdf
DECLARATION OF THE ELCA TO PEOPLE OF AFRICAN DESCENT
On June 27, 2019, the Church Council of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America adopted the following
declaration as a statement addressed to people of African descent.
There is no longer Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, there is no longer male and
female; for all of you are one in Christ Jesus (Galatians 3:28).
The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) apologizes to people of African descent for its historical
complicity in slavery and its enduring legacy of racism in the United States and globally. We lament the white
churchs failure to work for the abolition of slavery and the perpetuation of racism in this church. We confess,
repent and repudiate the times when this church has been silent in the face of racial injustice.
The ELCA acknowledges that slavery created and perpetuated racism, a truth this nation and this church have
yet to fully embrace. The enslavement of Africans was based on a false narrative of the racial inferiority and
the demonization of black people by the majority culture. Slavery was supported by white religious, legal,
political, and scientific leaders and institutions for social, political, and economic gain. During the 246-year
transatlantic slave trade, which began in 1619, an estimated 12 million people from Africa were stolen from
their native lands, separated from their families, torn from their culture, killed for seeking freedom, tortured
through inhumane forms of punishment, and subjected to lifetimes of captivity. While the white church stood
silently by, people of African descent resisted through acts of rebellion, created new expressions of spirituality
and Christian practice rooted in African traditions, and organized movements for freedom.
The ELCA teaches that racism is sin and that racism denies the reconciling work of the cross.1
Rooted in slavery, racism is manifested through the history of Jim Crow policies, racial segregation, the terror of
lynching, extrajudicial killings by law enforcement, and the disproportionate incarceration of people of
color.2 Descendants of formerly enslaved Africans are still denied equal access and opportunity in church
and society while white people collectively benefit from unequal access, opportunity, and power. Institutional
racism currently exists in the ELCA through discriminatory treatment within the call process; inequitable
compensation of clergy of color; racial segregation; divestment from black communities and congregations;
systemic polices and organizational practices; and failure to fully include the gifts of leadership and worship
styles of people of African descent.