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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 01:16 PM Dec 2019

Hallmark's Christmas movies are part of a culture war their viewers are losing

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/12/23/hallmarks-christmas-movies-are-part-culture-war-their-viewers-are-losing/

The world the network depicts is fading fast.

By Jeb Lund

Jeb Lund is a former political columnist for the Guardian and Rolling Stone and co-host of the podcast Dave and Jeb Aren't Mean.
Dec. 23, 2019 at 6:00 a.m. EST

On Oct. 31, the Hallmark Movies & Mysteries Channel aired the film “Nostalgic Christmas,” a title whose name represents “coals to Newcastle” levels of redundancy. A few weeks later, the network found itself caving to anti-gay activists over an ad for the wedding site Zola, which featured a lesbian wedding and kiss, then apologizing to the LGBTQ community for that reflexive capitulation — a perfectly executed double-cave.

To the untrained eye, these moments might seem disconnected, but in the words of the only book everyone reads in the Hallmark universe, they were the ghosts of Christmas past, present and future arriving all at once. The world of Hallmark often resembles a kind of rear-guard action in a culture war that the network’s prime demographic is losing. The jobs, homes, community and security in the bleached pastoral hamlets showcased in the Hallmark universe are dwindling, increasingly as unreal as their TV presentation.

“Nostalgic Christmas,” one of the 40 new movies Hallmark rolled out this season, was about a toy company executive who gives up on the rollout of a “computerized programmable horse that you can teach to talk” in favor of maintaining her father’s small-town shop selling handcrafted wooden toys, while a rich person kept a local mill open out of the goodness of deus ex machina. Calling a Hallmark Christmas movie “nostalgic” is like calling steak “beefy.” All the information was implied, but you went and made it overt anyway. No enthusiast of either mistakes the content. Hallmark deliberately evokes the visual language of Norman Rockwell’s Christmas paintings, a postwar consensus of peak fictional Americana that purportedly exists beyond the political.


But like, well, literally everything, this vision of America is the result of political choices. Hallmark’s movies are stridently anti-metropolitan, almost always beginning with a heroine fleeing the city on some pretext or another. The geography of her personal rescue takes the form of small towns and pastoral settings, where everyone has a nice house and a car and is probably a small-business owner or about to improve themselves by becoming one. Blue-collar jobs exist, but they pay at artisanal rates. And cratered school budgets and bankrupt shelters are rescued by private donors; in a world that cannot mention taxes, the commons only ever existed via the goodness of unnamed hearts.

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Hallmark's Christmas movies are part of a culture war their viewers are losing (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Dec 2019 OP
I like the Lifetime Movie universe better jberryhill Dec 2019 #1
It's the Lifetime movies that have the psychos dflprincess Dec 2019 #3
Where Amazon and Walmart don't exist and people still use You've Got Mail dalton99a Dec 2019 #6
Oh my goodness! I almost fell off my chair laughing! luvtheGWN Dec 2019 #31
Here's a game for you jberryhill Dec 2019 #59
Hallmark movies are the equivalent of no_hypocrisy Dec 2019 #2
Yes! Treacly, mass-produced crap that does nothing but pacify the simple-minded. VOX Dec 2019 #15
Hey after Trump was installed by Russia and I couldn't read a paper or watch the news on TV so I... Botany Dec 2019 #36
Thank you for the excellent summary not fooled Dec 2019 #47
Oh I forgot lots and lots and lots of pretty white women w/major curling iron actions Botany Dec 2019 #50
Hallmark hell MattBaggins Dec 2019 #48
Bah-humbug to Jeb, too. radical noodle Dec 2019 #4
They all have the same boring plots dalton99a Dec 2019 #5
" They all have the same boring plots" and the most important plot..... lying mitch96 Dec 2019 #13
And 90% of them are made in Canada. luvtheGWN Dec 2019 #32
I can't point fingers. I love action movies. Stupid but fun. People buy the fantasy. Midnight Writer Dec 2019 #7
"A movie like CATS does not reflect the actual realities of being a cat" jberryhill Dec 2019 #9
Dammit! Sorry. I will correct. Midnight Writer Dec 2019 #11
CATS does not realistically reflect the sleeping habits of cats. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #18
I can't wait to see Cats. I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2019 #34
I hope you enjoy it. Musicals are another escape I love. Midnight Writer Dec 2019 #38
It's received hilariously scathing reviews. Dave Starsky Dec 2019 #62
I've heard other criticism of The Hallmark Channel. I admit I really thought the movies they put abqtommy Dec 2019 #8
There is a Circle of Hell, not thought of by Dante, where you are required to watch kairos12 Dec 2019 #10
With the "art" of Thomas Kincade on all of your walls The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #19
I have a Kinkade painting on my wall. Mr.Bill Dec 2019 #24
What have you got against John Rutter? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2019 #45
His stuff is derivative, sentimental and bombastic. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #49
At times I watch for the nostalgic peace. Also read Perry Mason, Agatha Christie, LM Alcott for same bobbieinok Dec 2019 #12
I love Agatha Christie! cwydro Dec 2019 #23
Ever read Poirot in .Hickory Dickory Death--think that's right. One of few Poirot books I like bobbieinok Dec 2019 #54
I'm sure I have. cwydro Dec 2019 #56
LOL. Hallmark PSPS Dec 2019 #14
+1. And loud heartwarming music dalton99a Dec 2019 #16
Novocaine for the mind. Christmas Porn. maxsolomon Dec 2019 #17
LOL. Christmas Porn. Whose your Santa! kairos12 Dec 2019 #20
amazing, i had no idea it was so popular 0rganism Dec 2019 #21
My wife LOVES some of the mystery movies they show during the year, she HATES.... George II Dec 2019 #22
techphobic old ladies pstokely Dec 2019 #27
My extended family does LiberalLovinLug Dec 2019 #33
You MUST print out 47's Hallmark drinking game page below and take it with you. Nay Dec 2019 #46
Sounds like fun! But an alcohol-free Christmas is one of the sacrifices LiberalLovinLug Dec 2019 #51
Oh, you don't HAVE to drink alcohol. Eat a cookie every time you mark a Nay Dec 2019 #52
I'd look like Santa himself if I did that! LiberalLovinLug Dec 2019 #53
It's probably why they are so popular with a certain segment...pure utter fantasy. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2019 #25
Their movies make for a good drinking game 47of74 Dec 2019 #26
Extra shot if someone is in a baking contest. RhodeIslandOne Dec 2019 #30
OMG, I have to print this out and mark things off. That is, if I can get all the way through Nay Dec 2019 #40
I'd be passed out half way through the movie. n/t MoonchildCA Dec 2019 #41
Yeah especially if one takes a shot of Pisco or Raki each time 47of74 Dec 2019 #44
and when someone has to "save" Christmas Dukkha Dec 2019 #58
Hallmark Christmas movies are popular for a similar Hassler Dec 2019 #28
Hallmark Christmas movies are the seasonal version of the small-town romantic/family novel, a VERY Nay Dec 2019 #42
Way better than Fox News Freddie Dec 2019 #29
Ever notice that they recycle their characters in Hallmark? LiberalFighter Dec 2019 #35
They use a lot of words to describe Hallmark movies except for one... lame54 Dec 2019 #37
The right wing is fighting a very one-sided culture war. Initech Dec 2019 #39
I hadn't realised till now the "Hallmark ad" row was about an ad *on* Hallmark, not *for* it muriel_volestrangler Dec 2019 #43
Sometimes, it's just that people like sappy, corny movies DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #55
The world they depict never existed. tanyev Dec 2019 #57
What a bunch of Grinches. n/t MicaelS Dec 2019 #60
Don't forget Hallmark's Christmas in July movie fest. GreatCaesarsGhost Dec 2019 #61
I like Hallmark movies. EndlessWire Dec 2019 #63
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. I like the Lifetime Movie universe better
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 01:24 PM
Dec 2019

Every salary buys an insanely ostentatious house and much of the geography and economy is the same.

But thankfully, there is an endless supply of psychos running around killing people.

Inspired me to buy a set of kitchen knives for every room of the house.

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
3. It's the Lifetime movies that have the psychos
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 01:32 PM
Dec 2019

Hallmark is all sweetness and light. The only thing police are needed for in those is directing traffic in the small town thriving shopping district.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
59. Here's a game for you
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 08:19 AM
Dec 2019

It’s called “Spot the Psycho”

Flip to the Lifetime Movie channel at random and start watching. First one to correctly spot the psycho wins.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
15. Yes! Treacly, mass-produced crap that does nothing but pacify the simple-minded.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:10 PM
Dec 2019

Excellent analogy.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
36. Hey after Trump was installed by Russia and I couldn't read a paper or watch the news on TV so I...
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:48 PM
Dec 2019

... watched the most mindless drak I could find outside of sports and that was Hallmark shit.

Really bad acting
Older actors who used to be "the stuff" now just picking up a paycheck
lots of fake snow
Trees w/leaves in the wintertime
Every fucking room, lamp post, front door, and fence had up Xmas crap
really bed plots and writing
"the nice negro" co worker or friend who sooner or later would say, "Oh girl tell Dexter that you like him."
Kisses interrupted by the cute kids
clothing that does not match the job .... working in a nursery or greenhouse with $200 + sweaters
the town's easter/xmas/new years/fall harvest/valentine's day parade/festival/dance/cook off
The choice of going back to their great job in the city or spending the rest of their lives in Silver Valley
helping out @ her Pappy's Christmas tree farm.

After a while a friend and I would try to make Hallmark shows into a drinking/bingo game.

But a certain audience gets joy from that crap.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
47. Thank you for the excellent summary
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:17 PM
Dec 2019

Now I can steer clear knowing the gist of the movies without actually watching them.

The drinking game seems an apt response.


MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
48. Hallmark hell
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:18 PM
Dec 2019

We will have our eyes propped open as in Clockwork Orange, forced to watch Hallmark movies for eternity

dalton99a

(81,516 posts)
5. They all have the same boring plots
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 01:42 PM
Dec 2019

All-American wholesome family/couple/singles looking for adventure/love/happiness, stupid/boneheaded/bad things happen, and then amazing good things happen either by dumb luck or divine interference. THE END.

mitch96

(13,912 posts)
13. " They all have the same boring plots" and the most important plot..... lying
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:05 PM
Dec 2019

How many moves are about a hero/heroine not wanting to be embarrassed or humiliated by family and friends so they lie. The boy/girl friend is false. In the end the ruse is found out and the family/friend forgives them with or with out admonishment..
Great teaching tool for kids, eh?
m

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
7. I can't point fingers. I love action movies. Stupid but fun. People buy the fantasy.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 01:50 PM
Dec 2019

I have no problem with people using entertainment to escape their real world and enjoy a dream, if only for awhile.

This is like complaining about comic book films, because they don't reflect the real world.

SPOILER ALERT!

A movie like CATS does not reflect the actual realities of being a cat. It is not supposed to.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. "A movie like CATS does not reflect the actual realities of being a cat"
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 01:58 PM
Dec 2019

Hey, how a about a "SPOILER ALERT", eh?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
18. CATS does not realistically reflect the sleeping habits of cats.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:53 PM
Dec 2019

It would be either really boring or really zen if it did.

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
38. I hope you enjoy it. Musicals are another escape I love.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:49 PM
Dec 2019

Vintage Hollywood classics, mostly, but lately enjoying a lot of Bollywood fare.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
62. It's received hilariously scathing reviews.
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 12:27 PM
Dec 2019

"CATS is the worst thing to happen to cats since dogs."

"I got back from seeing CATS at the movie theater, and I couldn't look my cat in the eye for nearly two hours."

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
8. I've heard other criticism of The Hallmark Channel. I admit I really thought the movies they put
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 01:57 PM
Dec 2019

out a few years ago were better, but then I don't have the money to finance my own movie channel.
And sometimes I still watch Hallmark movies. I find them much more entertaining than Faux News.
Those are my thoughts here at Opinions R Me.

kairos12

(12,862 posts)
10. There is a Circle of Hell, not thought of by Dante, where you are required to watch
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 01:58 PM
Dec 2019

trash Hallmark movies for eternity.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
19. With the "art" of Thomas Kincade on all of your walls
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:55 PM
Dec 2019

and the Christmas music of John Rutter playing in the background.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
24. I have a Kinkade painting on my wall.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:20 PM
Dec 2019

It's a street scene, seemingly from the 50s judging from the cars in the scene. It looks a great deal like my grandparents neighborhood in the Baltimore suburbs. I know it's not real, but it gives me a good feeling to glance at it now and then and think of those times. I see no harm in that.

I know I could stare at that painting for a lot longer than I could stare at a Bruce Willis action movie with everything exploding.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
45. What have you got against John Rutter?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:12 PM
Dec 2019

He's a highly respected composer and conductor of choral music. He's nothing like Kincade or Hallmark.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
12. At times I watch for the nostalgic peace. Also read Perry Mason, Agatha Christie, LM Alcott for same
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:03 PM
Dec 2019

White woman from middle-class OK background. 80 in January

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
56. I'm sure I have.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 05:00 PM
Dec 2019

I don’t think there’s anything of hers I’ve not read.

I loved her disappearance back in the day. No one knew where she went.

PSPS

(13,603 posts)
14. LOL. Hallmark
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:06 PM
Dec 2019

One thing I have to give Hallmark credit for is their outstanding production values. They have always had very talented people involved in their productions.

Having said that, though, their contemporary movies are really all the same and the snippet in the OP hits all the right notes. Virtually all white (the very few perfunctory non-whites act in a way that would render them as well-tanned whites if it were filmed in black-and-white.) Everyone lives in a house and has car(s) that only a one-percenter could afford. The model-level hero and heroine fall in love and end up living happily ever after. All the stories follow this formula.

What is even more depressing is the target demographic this reveals, confirmed by the ads. It makes me wonder how many young, attractive girls watch these and end up blowing their savings by moving to Shangri La, New Hampshire, opening a yoga studio/coffee shop/pet store and waiting to "bump into" love-starved Rich Handsome Mister Right to sweep her off her feet.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
17. Novocaine for the mind. Christmas Porn.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:12 PM
Dec 2019

It has it's place in our modern world, like singing competition shows, adult coloring books, kitten photos, or zit-popping videos.

Everything shouldn't be Impeachment hearings or an Anti-Racism training session; traumatizing and cathartic.

Sometimes we need less Dopamine and Adrenaline.

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
21. amazing, i had no idea it was so popular
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:11 PM
Dec 2019

from the article (emphasis mine):


According to a 2019 study by the University of California at Los Angeles on diversity in Hollywood, the top three scripted shows among white cable viewers were Hallmark series, garnering between 86 and 89 percent shares of those households.


uh... holy shit. for me, Hallmark channel is flyover content, but apparently a lot of people live there.

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. My wife LOVES some of the mystery movies they show during the year, she HATES....
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:12 PM
Dec 2019

...this time of year because they're Christmas (not even "holiday" ) movies 24/7 starting sometime in October until near the end of January. And we get TWO of their channels!

Who watches this stuff that much?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
33. My extended family does
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:45 PM
Dec 2019

I'll be heading to my mothers and sister/brother in law's place today for a few days. Evangelical Christians, who my sister has hinted at least that she and her husband support Trump. This is the type of "entertainment" I will have to sit through. I do that for the sake of my older mother in respect for her. She enjoys them. I remember as a kid seeing how she could whip through hundreds of Harlequin romance novels every year. But it means hours of sitting numbly staring at a screen while violins wail, skys open up to heavenly light, tears are flowing for all the carefully placed tear jerk moments. And of course the miracle that happens, because the protagonist is such a good Christian do-gooder.

Have a happy holiday season George. I argue with you too much, but be assured nothing is personal. Cheers.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
46. You MUST print out 47's Hallmark drinking game page below and take it with you.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:13 PM
Dec 2019

Take several copies. Enjoy the movies while marking off the tropes. That's what I'm going to do!!

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
51. Sounds like fun! But an alcohol-free Christmas is one of the sacrifices
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:33 PM
Dec 2019

Did I mention they were Bible thumping puritans?

Nay

(12,051 posts)
40. OMG, I have to print this out and mark things off. That is, if I can get all the way through
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:55 PM
Dec 2019

a Hallmark Christmas movie. I have never seen one, but they sure sound like they would be fun if you start a bit of drinking first.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
44. Yeah especially if one takes a shot of Pisco or Raki each time
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:09 PM
Dec 2019

And this game also works for Christmas Vacation

Hassler

(3,379 posts)
28. Hallmark Christmas movies are popular for a similar
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:32 PM
Dec 2019

Reason Country music is popular--as more people live in cities, Country music gets more popular. With Christmas movies, the less reality resembles the movie tropes, the more popular the movies become.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
42. Hallmark Christmas movies are the seasonal version of the small-town romantic/family novel, a VERY
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:06 PM
Dec 2019

popular genre. The very same tropes above can be found, adjusting for the holiday. It's an escape, for sure, from a reality which is pretty damned unpleasant here for lots of people. Men get off on action movies, where they can imagine being a hero who saves the day. Women get off on small-town, neighborly, friendly movies where everyone has a little store selling angel statues, pet supplies, etc. The women all get along, the neighbors all get along, and one grumpy resident always gets won over by the end. There are no truly nasty people, only a few misled teens who are set straight by parental love.

It's a great place to visit. Too bad we don't actually live there!

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
29. Way better than Fox News
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:35 PM
Dec 2019

I go to my very-long-time hairdresser’s house every 6 weeks or so. She’s a Trumpie (one of those that abortion is the ONLY issue) but wonderful with my hair. Sigh. We’re “friends” on FB so she knows where I stand. She has the courtesy to turn off Fox News in her salon when I’m there and puts on the Hallmark movie channel, which starts the holiday movies in October. Admittedly you do get sucked into the Norman Rockwell town and the predictable plots.

lame54

(35,294 posts)
37. They use a lot of words to describe Hallmark movies except for one...
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:49 PM
Dec 2019

Harmless

I can't believe we are threatened by Hallmark

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
43. I hadn't realised till now the "Hallmark ad" row was about an ad *on* Hallmark, not *for* it
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:07 PM
Dec 2019

That they were banning someone else's ad, rather than withdrawing their own, just makes it worse. It wasn't just "this isn't the image of us that we're comfortable with, after all", it was "we don't want to admit LGBT couples can be happy".

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
55. Sometimes, it's just that people like sappy, corny movies
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 04:59 PM
Dec 2019

It's why "A Christmas Story" and "It's a Wonderful Life" and "Miracle on 34th Street" and all the old animated programs are holiday staples.

tanyev

(42,568 posts)
57. The world they depict never existed.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 07:01 PM
Dec 2019

I’ve indulged in a few Hallmark Christmas movies when I needed some really light escapist fare. As someone who grew up in a small town where everybody really did know each other, the thing that always annoys me is the idea that such a small town can pull off the amazing over-the-top Christmas spectacle that Hallmark has thrown together for the television cameras. The town I grew up in had a few Christmas decorations that went up on the light poles on the 4 blocks of ‘downtown’. That’s it. Hallmark wants to have it all—a picturesque town that’s small enough for everyone to know each other, perhaps the threat of financial hard times for the town, and still enough resources to put on one last giant Christmas extravaganza.

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
63. I like Hallmark movies.
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 01:15 PM
Dec 2019

Yes, the plots follow a treacly format. No, they're not realistic. They are for people getting run over by life who need an uplifting ending that's guaranteed.

They don't serve everybody. They do not include all types of humans that may need to see themselves in something treacly. This is what is mainly wrong with them. People are trying to tell Hallmark they are prejudiced, but they are not responding well.

I don't think Hallmark's decision was based on anything except money losses that angry gay people would certainly cause them. They backstepped in a hurry off the two ladies kissing in an ad from someone else. They never made a movie with such characters. (If you know of one, please post the title.) If you don't write precisely in their formula, they won't consider your submission.

It's time for Hallmark to revise their trope niche and step into the modern world and truly become inclusive with their movies. There are probably tons of excluded people who would love to watch treacly movies where they can expect a sappy Hallmark ending.

I watch Hallmark mainly for the Christmas decorations, the snow, sparkly lights, the music, and the kissing.

You know what's not realistic? Families sitting around big feasts every night being lovey dovey and philosophical while they tie up the plot threads and tell you what you should have felt. But, that's what people want to see.

People are really sensitive about sex. Try to show them something other than what they know, and they lose it.

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