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brush

(53,918 posts)
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 05:02 AM Dec 2019

One big flaw in our system is the Senate majority leader has too much power.

With all bills, moves, federal judge approvals and even impeachments having to go through Moscow Mitch makes him/the Senate a fourth branch of government, just as powerful, or even more powerful than the president as everything goes through him.

Changes need to be made.

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One big flaw in our system is the Senate majority leader has too much power. (Original Post) brush Dec 2019 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #1
He may have ruined our country. Funtatlaguy Dec 2019 #2
I wonder if he will be voted out CozyMystery Dec 2019 #3
The Dems have a great candidate in Amy McGrath. Funtatlaguy Dec 2019 #4
He only has the power his caucus gives him DrToast Dec 2019 #5
My thoughts exactly - His power can be removed by the others mdbl Dec 2019 #6
And they continue to give it to him and he continues to call the shots. brush Dec 2019 #11
It's going to be hard to ditch Mitch. JoeDuck Dec 2019 #7
my local "newspaper" turned sharply RW a few years ago Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #10
Senate rules and custom bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #8
That means Dems need to take the majority and go absolutely scorched earth. Lucky Luciano Dec 2019 #9
+1 dalton99a Dec 2019 #12
agreed NewJeffCT Dec 2019 #15
Until Moscow Mitch Bettie Dec 2019 #13
So tell us what changes you suppose need to be made? But in the context of a Republican president tritsofme Dec 2019 #14
Give the minority a proportionate say in judge approvals and the... brush Dec 2019 #18
couldn't agree more Takket Dec 2019 #16
Exactly. He/she has more power in that sense than the president. brush Dec 2019 #19
Changes need to be made, but they won't be. maxsolomon Dec 2019 #17

Response to brush (Original post)

Funtatlaguy

(10,889 posts)
2. He may have ruined our country.
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 05:53 AM
Dec 2019

I wish we Dems and Obama would have pulled out every stop with sit ins and strikes everywhere when he denied Merrick Garland a hearing.
Why wasn’t he run out of DC after that and/or stating his only goal after Obama was elected was to prevent him a second term.
Imagine a Dem saying these same things, The right would have gone apoplectic every damn day on every available media and social media outlet.
Do the right thing, Kentuckians, vote him out and shame him out in November.
Shove Moscow Mitch back up into his turtle 🐢 shell for good,

CozyMystery

(652 posts)
3. I wonder if he will be voted out
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 06:15 AM
Dec 2019

I doubt it so much. I will celebrate with great vigor and happiness if he and tRump are defeated in 2020. If, in addition, the Dems take the house and senate, big WOW!

I tell everyone who tells me IRL that they are going to vote for the Democratic candidate that they must vote the straight D ticket in order to make sure that the president they want will be in a position to be totally effective. There is no point in purposely hamstringing a president. So far, no R's have told me they will vote for a Democrat for president. They are all still in love with tRump and, oddly to me, that stance is completely against their own self-interest.

Funtatlaguy

(10,889 posts)
4. The Dems have a great candidate in Amy McGrath.
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 06:29 AM
Dec 2019

I would never ask dear baby Jesus for another gift or favor if Moscow Mitch and Leningrad Lindsey both lost and they had to watch the Dems with a President, Senate, and House majority.

Imagine the party and dancing in the streets on November 3, 2020 if that happened.
A boy (or girl) can always dream.

mdbl

(4,976 posts)
6. My thoughts exactly - His power can be removed by the others
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 07:22 AM
Dec 2019

but they are too chicken or complicit in their actions against our democracy

JoeDuck

(79 posts)
7. It's going to be hard to ditch Mitch.
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 07:32 AM
Dec 2019

I live in the western end of Kentucky, in a small community named Monkey's Eyebrow. Our local/regional paper is the Paducah Sun, which formerly was the Paducah Sun-Democrat. The owners dropped the "Democrat" part of the name several years ago. They didn't replace it with "Republican" but they might as well have. McConnell sends out press releases prior to elections boasting about how important he is to the state, how much money he brings to it, etc. The Paducah paper prints these releases, probably after making a couple of edits that let them be labeled "staff reports." The paper lets McConnell submit op-ed pieces for the editorial page, in which he brags about how great he is. I believe this pre-election campaign by McConnell, supported by news media, is one of the things that will make it difficult to unseat this horrible, obstructive senator. If we can keep the House and take a Senate majority, and especially if we can vote McConnell out, maybe our next Democratic president can actually accomplish some things that our nation desperately needs.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,467 posts)
10. my local "newspaper" turned sharply RW a few years ago
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 10:09 AM
Dec 2019

The local (in south central KY) weekly was sold and its editorial content and news slant went all-in for the Fox / Limbaugh / Jones cult. When did our Bluegrass State become the Red-Assinine State?

Moscow Mitch is more vulnerable in 2020 than he ever has been.

https://maddogpac.com/blogs/press/new-billboards-following-russian-investment-in-braidy-industries

bucolic_frolic

(43,342 posts)
8. Senate rules and custom
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 07:40 AM
Dec 2019

That's the problem. Tradition has developed. Senate sets its own rules. Minority can't change them. But somehow Mitch blocked a lot even when Republicans were in the minority. I'm guessing courts don't get to weigh in on Senate rules. So no lawsuits. But I'm not a Senate watcher.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
15. agreed
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 02:09 PM
Dec 2019

if Dems take the White House and Senate, go full throttle on appointing liberal judges - and, expand the federal judiciary as well - 1 extra judge for each appeals court and 2-3 extra judges for each circuit court

Bettie

(16,130 posts)
13. Until Moscow Mitch
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 01:53 PM
Dec 2019

I never realized that the Senate Majority leader has veto power over all legislation and can decide appointments simply by saying "Yes" or "No".

It has helped him that he has a compliant group of senators, but I don't know that any previous senate leader has been so blatantly corrupt.

tritsofme

(17,405 posts)
14. So tell us what changes you suppose need to be made? But in the context of a Republican president
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 02:01 PM
Dec 2019

and a Democratic led Senate. I’d be interested to know why you think that Democratic Senate majority should be stripped of its power, and which ones?

We don’t need to blow up the system, just take the majority.

brush

(53,918 posts)
18. Give the minority a proportionate say in judge approvals and the...
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 03:01 PM
Dec 2019

House more input in getting House-passed bills onto the floor of the Senate and voted on. Our system is a good foundation but the founding fathers could never have foreseen, as Speaker Pelosi has recently said, a rogue Majority Leader and a rogue, authoritarian president, therefore the 25th Amendment needs strengthening to help rid the nation of corrupt presidents.

And who can be against adjustments to the 2nd Amendment—except crazed gun humpers. And do I even need to mention the Electoral College?

Takket

(21,637 posts)
16. couldn't agree more
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 02:43 PM
Dec 2019

and I think the same goes for the Speaker as well if they have the same powers, but the one thing i really think needs to change is the "one vote" no power to kill a bill that the majority leader has.

That is wrong, and it is not Democratic. The majority leader should be allowed to set schedules, committee chairmenships, vote on rules, set time for debates and schedule votes, etc, but the idea that mcconnell, or anyone else, can kill a piece of legislation, especially one passed by the other house, simply by ignoring it is absurd. Everything passed by one house should be scheduled for debate and voted on in a timely manner by the other.

even the president cannot kill a piece of legislation so easily! his/her veto can still be overriden by a 2/3 vote. The Majority leader is a ONE vote kill for legislation.

maxsolomon

(33,419 posts)
17. Changes need to be made, but they won't be.
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 02:51 PM
Dec 2019

The Electoral College isn't going away, either.

One Party has lost it's goddamn mind. Until reason returns to the GOP (and I don't really remember when they were reasonable), this is the state of things.

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