Trump is a billion times worse! For christ sake, he already has said these things and alluded he would not leave. No President has ever said that kind of stuff before. Even Pelosi is worried about this:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/5/10/18535212/trump-2020-pelosi-lose-leave-office

If you are talking about some other article, please leave a link.

I am satisfied that Pelosi expressed a worry that Trump will create chaos and refuse to leave office UNLESS we have a massive turnout that overwhelms his number of voters. She ought to know, and she is asking for the turnout that makes us victorious over him.

There are a number of problems he can give us. Count me in with those that are definitely worried about this. History notwithstanding, this "president" is not normal at all. His behavior, and his past actions, suggest that he will not go willingly.

Talking down Patriots because you do not believe that Pelosi said or implied that she is worried doesn't change the fact that this "president" talks like a dictator, and is definitely trying to walk the walk of a dictator. He has said as much; he can do what he wants. He is contemptuous of his base voters, and they are oblivious to it.

People talk a lot about how he will be pulled from the Oval Office by noon on that day. This is what your imagination allows for, not other things that might happen. It's like you're telling yourself, "It can't happen any other way because it NEVER HAS BEFORE. Well, there ARE things that he has said and done that are indicators that things might not go the way it used to go.

We want people to wake the hell up and prepare to do what they need to do to protect the Democracy. They can at the very least, position their economic assets to hold on, and plan to vote no matter what it takes to get their vote in. Make sure they are registered, know where their polling place is, and help get the win.

Trump et al are the single most threat to our country at this point. We should be prepared and know in advance what we are going to do. Do you realize that Trump has given himself the power to suspend the very election that, under normal circumstances, he probably wouldn't win anyway? Given his apparent insanity, why is it unreasonable for an ordinary citizen to wonder what he will do? Even if you want to disregard a report, which is fine, why can't someone open a discussion of Trump's penchant for acting like a dictator?

Do you know anything about private security contractors who allegedly protect Trump in the WH, which was mentioned in 2016 but never mentioned again...this is in addition to the SS.

I would like nothing more than to pack a good lunch and head out to the polls, then retire to the television to watch Tump disappear into a footnote in history. But, I can't count on it. Not when Trump is apparently engineering WW3 as we speak, and he is beginning to position Ivanka as his successor. I would love to be wrong. I want to be wrong. I want you back here next January ragging me to death for my worrying.

But, I am worried. I have never seen the like of this "president." There is more going wrong than just his ignorance of how the government works. He has gotten away with a lot of stuff that is downright illegal, and starting say, a Civil War, would be worth it to him if it meant he can keep power. He models himself after dictators, but the thing that is standing in his way is our precious Constitution.

Why would Pelosi start up this dialogue?

Why not simply quote Pelosi stating concern that Trump would not leave office?

Welcome to DU, btw.

5-10% chance of happening with Trump.

Anyone else and we’d be talking about a .01% chance.

I heard it bandied about about Dubya, which in retrospect was rather hilarious because Dubya was about as lazy and disengaged as a President as you could think of and I doubt wanted to spend one more day in office than possible (although his Veep may have been a different story.)

That, and the “there’s going to be a civil war” panicky posts.

of his base and supporters saying that if he doesn't win, there will be war. That's all. What are we gonna say, "Oh, I didn't believe them?" How irresponsible it would be for a community not to have plans for the day when there may be fighting in the streets.

In the past, it has not been thinkable that the pResident would gin up support and ask for violence, which you undeniably know that he has done many times. This guy is a member of the Russian mob, and he is not anyone that we have ever had to deal with in the position of POTUS. We don't know for SURE what he will do. My guess is that he won't go quietly. If he thinks he can win that way, he'll try.

Or just skip the Inauguration all together. Not about him so he doesn’t care. He can’t stand having to sit and listen to anyone else talk, other than Putin.

I do expect some KKK ammosexual types to literally go off though.

He will first pardon all his henchmen and Pence first. You can bet on that.

In Scarface ...

It is a matter of who Congress, the courts, and the military recognizes.

it is ridiculous

he'd be out of there as soon as he needed to play golf

time in 2021 when he loses. Millions. And I think a lot of the republicans would side w/ us being that this country depends upon the peaceful transition of power. Look at rump taking over after winning. How can they claim that democrats are trying to steal the election when they 'allowed' him to transition as after winning in 2016 (officially taking the reins of office in 2017)?

I think a lot of good decent people will stand up against this idiot president and demand that he lost, and thus, time for him to go. Period.

In the course of an interview with the NYT, Pelosi referred to being prepared to deal with legal challenges to election results, which is a common scenario.

She did not express concern he wouldn't leave office.

The VOX suggestion to that effect, for the purpose of inciting clicks and concern, is false.

If you disagree, then please quote Pelosi's statement of concern that he will not leave office in full.

as are tons of other people from ex CIA agents to Bill Maher. That is really all I said in my OP so I am not sure what you are arguing with. There is no doubt this exact question has crossed the minds of most Americans. Here are a few other articles:

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-may-not-even-recognize-the-legitimacy-of-the-election-cia-psychologist-dissects-the-presidents-damaged-personality/

https://www.newsweek.com/will-donald-trump-leave-office-peacefully-bill-maher-president-loses-2020-election-landslide-1466447

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/opinion/trump-leave-white-house.html

https://www.thedailybeast.com/cohen-if-trump-loses-in-2020-i-fear-there-will-never-be-a-peaceful-transition-of-power

There are hundreds of articles like this

but it will never happen

he will rile up his sad, pathetic cult but it will be like one of his hate rallies....eventually they'll retreat back under their rocks

and THAT would be soooooooo much fun to watch

Very sad.

"“If we win by four seats, by a thousand votes each, he’s not going to respect the election,” said Ms. Pelosi, recalling her thinking in the run-up to the 2018 elections.

“He would poison the public mind. He would challenge each of the races; he would say you can’t seat these people,” she added. “We had to win. Imagine if we hadn’t won — oh, don’t even imagine. So, as we go forward, we have to have the same approach.”"

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/04/us/politics/nancy-pelosi.html

She wants an overwhelming victory, just like we all do, which means Obama 08 level turnout. That's the best way for us to keep him from causing trouble - we hand him a resounding defeat. That is what she is saying.
And you need to get a grip, you sound like you're having a panic attack. At noon on 1-20-21, if he loses the election, Comrade Dumbass ceases to be POTUS and will be removed from the Oval Office, by force if necessary.. It's the law, it's the Constitution, and it will happen because there are people who have taken oaths to the Constitution, and who will carry out the orders of the person who becomes POTUS beginning at noon on 1-20-21. That person does not have to be in the Oval Office, or the WH. If Comrade Dumbass tries to circumvent the peaceful transfer of power, he will fail.
And the person you're chasing all over this thread is a lawyer, and a longtime member here. DU is full of knowledgeable, educated people. You just got here a minute ago, so pay attention. If you stay long enough, you might learn something.

But especially note Jose's comment. The president is a person, not a place.

His power and authority cease as soon as the new potus is sworn in. Period.

No commander, or leo, will follow an order from a civilian in defiance of an order from the actual commander in chief/potus.

The real question is how do we stop him from taking every last antique out of the wh on his way out. Or a few dozen plane loads of gold and cash.

If he flees in his last hours, he will still be potus. Could he be stopped? That's a much more reasonable question.

When a new president is sworn in, he will simply cease to be president. The hoverround brigade down to the Denny's can piss and moan right alomg with him and choke to death on their Moons Over My Hammy for all the difference it'll make. I hope they haul his orange ass to jail the same day.

on him. The biggest concern is if the election is paper thin. We will need to be prepared to tell him to fuck off.

It could be the biggest upset in election history and he would howl. And there may be violence, although I think most of the deplorables are paper tigers. We haven't reached that bridge yet, and won't for several months.

be preparing for this inevitable situation.
I hope.

But the constitution states that at noon on inauguration day, the presides-elect becomes the president. Trump immediately becomes a private citizen and if he chooses not to leave the White House, he will be forcibly removed by the secret service who are loyal to the office of the presidency, not the person.

I was hoping someone else would instead.

Thank you.

He'll be leaving, just like every other former president.

people worry about never happen.

On Jan 20, 2021. The secret service will escort him from the building and put him on a plane bound for Florida. A bunch of klanners and nazis can’t do a damn thing. Trump will be gone.

...He/She is in charge and has the authority to request that the Secret Service remove the interloper and his feckless family of grifters.

in Russia.

yuk, what a image that would be , eye bleach please.

Now we see Dump using the lack of transparency to his advantage as victim rather than behind the scenes cheater.

It's high time for Dems to demand that at the very least, we vote by handmarked, handcounted paper ballots at PRECINCTS with public oversight and paper based voter registration to avoid this impending catastrophy. This will at least give us a fighting chance to do a fair recount if one is needed -- and I believe strongly that recounts are going to be needed. No other solution is as transparent as this.

Where are the Secretaries of State on these issues??? Tacit. Complicit. All those glamorous conventions with 5-star accomodations and 5-star restaurants, and other undeclared benefits.

Is if state Republicans in a state like WI or MI vote to give the electoral votes to Trump despite the Dem nominee winning the state under the guise of "election fraud".

that they are just really heavy-handed with creating a perception of the possibility they can win. We'll be inundated with non-stop bullshit....and any state where Republicans run elections is going to be a problem. Can't imagine it being worse than it already is, but they really have to sell it. I wouldn't count on the military or the police to do the right thing. I kind of think the opposite. It's so weird, that it's talked about,..like it's a fact...this will happen. But the solutions, are not even mentioned. I'm fortunate to live in a state that hasn't had problems with elections. Don't know what it feels like to be under the gun so to speak.

friggen media wouldn’t amplify his shit, we would be OK. But, the media loves Trump.

lol

I have a thousand bucks says he does this

My sense is that most of the discussion is based on "I imagine that..." guessing.

Some data points: Democrats won the House in 2018. Republicans (and Trump) didn't claim the Election was stolen.

Period.

He will have no rights to the WH. He will be removed if he doesn't leave willingly. There are nowhere near enough cultists to storm the WH and protect him there.