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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:32 AM Jan 2012

The moment a 19-year-old Mitt Romney demonstrated in favour of Vietnam War draft

Preppy protester: The moment a 19-year-old Mitt Romney demonstrated in favour of Vietnam War draft

They say every picture tells a story.

A newly-unearthed photograph showing Mitt Romney demonstrating in favour of the Vietnam War draft might leave the presidential candidate feeling somewhat embarrassed.

The veteran Republican, then 19, can be seen picketing an anti-war sit-in at Stanford University in Palo Alto, California, in 1966.

Mr Romney will no doubt be proud of his younger self taking what was at the time a very unpopular stance.

However, he might grimace at his clean-cut appearance and preppy wardrobe.



Fortunate son: Mr Romney's status as a 'Mormon missionary' meant he was exempt from the Vietnam War draft




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083002/Mitt-Romney-19-demonstrated-favour-Vietnam-War-draft.html

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The moment a 19-year-old Mitt Romney demonstrated in favour of Vietnam War draft (Original Post) The Straight Story Jan 2012 OP
So, he was picketing for others to go? Very nice. chelsea0011 Jan 2012 #1
He was picketing for others to be sent under threat of prosecution and imprisonment. Gold Metal Flake Jan 2012 #5
His father was Governor of Michigan at this time. DURHAM D Jan 2012 #17
Beautifly clarified. Gold Metal Flake Jan 2012 #30
Not to mention a high draft number... wakemewhenitsover Jan 2012 #48
yellow runs to the bone in mr. asshat roguevalley Jan 2012 #37
his dickishness is genetic. it even radiates from his sons. You know, the ones who fought for their roguevalley Jan 2012 #55
GOP = "Gang Of hyPocrites" KansDem Jan 2012 #2
The draft makes my blood boil Zalatix Jan 2012 #19
He was too chicken to go. Joe Bacon Jan 2012 #43
So true. DURHAM D Jan 2012 #21
I hear ya. you might check the date though. I think its a typo. roguevalley Jan 2012 #38
Thanks. DURHAM D Jan 2012 #46
Anyone else notice that Ron Paul brought up Newt being a chickenhawk but not Romney? NNN0LHI Jan 2012 #3
I think he was asked to counter Gingrich by an interviewer jakeXT Jan 2012 #24
God, that bottom photo creeps me out. Brickbat Jan 2012 #4
This stuff writes itself. JNelson6563 Jan 2012 #6
wow... Spazito Jan 2012 #7
If only he was smoking a pipe and holding a brandy. tridim Jan 2012 #8
Ever since I saw him he reminded me of somebody tularetom Jan 2012 #9
LOL! Perfect! hifiguy Jan 2012 #10
Yup, he's there with Greggie, Dougie and the other Hitler youth. JBoy Jan 2012 #12
Chicken Hawk Botany Jan 2012 #11
Well the pinky ring is way cool. woofless Jan 2012 #13
Was this before he did his 4 tour in Nam, and got all thiose purple hearts? comipinko Jan 2012 #14
It was not a particularly unpopular stance at the time. yardwork Jan 2012 #15
the fortunate son riverwalker Jan 2012 #16
What a scumbag- he protested for others to die in his place. Marrah_G Jan 2012 #18
find all those people in that picture Enrique Jan 2012 #20
Man. Openly Economic Darwinist, serial waffler, protested FOR conscription, 1%'er . . . HughBeaumont Jan 2012 #22
Fortunate Son... pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #23
Great post! slay Jan 2012 #40
Was his dad against the war? cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #25
initially, he was for the war ... but then, he got more informed about it (read: he was going zbdent Jan 2012 #31
Actually George Romney said he had been "brainwashed" by the U.S. military commanders and diplomats yellowcanine Jan 2012 #34
not qualified to be Commander in Chief. This should kill him off Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #26
Only thing missing is Greggie, Dougie, and the rest of the Omegas. no_hypocrisy Jan 2012 #27
Who Wears a Blazer and Slacks at College? Yavin4 Jan 2012 #28
In 1966, it was not that uncommon. By the late 60s of course it was pretty rare. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #35
Every time I see Romney's sons around him, I wonder why his sons did not kiranon Jan 2012 #29
Hmmmm...I always wanted one of those Tricia Nixon GOP Girls from the 60s Taverner Jan 2012 #32
Good Lord, but that looks like Anna Paquin. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #50
COME! ON! Don't tell me you did not want that!!!! Taverner Jan 2012 #53
Well, being gay, I did not want that. ;0) Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #56
Hmmm not sure what the equivalent would be... Taverner Jan 2012 #58
I have a strict "no dick for Republicans" policy. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #60
"speak out, don't sit in" MisterP Jan 2012 #33
Love it! Nevernose Jan 2012 #59
Chicken hawks sicken me Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #36
Republicans, I think, are heartless and cruel by nature slay Jan 2012 #39
Awesome photo that needs to go viral. Posting to my Facebook page coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #42
Go for it! slay Jan 2012 #47
On another thread, a DUer said Santorum was the 'biggest asshole,' a judgment coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #41
War for thee but not for me The Genealogist Jan 2012 #44
...and nearly 18,000 draftees died in Vietnam pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #45
Three deferments and then a high draft number. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #49
He is a total, vile, scumbag. Quantess Jan 2012 #51
why didn't he sign up for it and join himself ? JI7 Jan 2012 #52
Put This Pic Next to the one with Romney and the Money JI7 Jan 2012 #54
So Robbie Douglas. Snotcicles Jan 2012 #57
He was protesting to send other people, against their will, to kill and die while he was exempt. fasttense Jan 2012 #61
Is he the only one in a jacket? malaise Jan 2012 #62
Maybe he had a brainwashing about Vietnam too, just like the one his daddy had nt MrScorpio Jan 2012 #63

Gold Metal Flake

(13,805 posts)
5. He was picketing for others to be sent under threat of prosecution and imprisonment.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:41 AM
Jan 2012

Meanwhile, he hid safely behind a religious shield. Sociopath.

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
17. His father was Governor of Michigan at this time.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:39 PM
Jan 2012

If he flunked out of school and lost his academic deferrment his father would of been able to get him into a national guard unit for the well connected- much like George Bush junior. IOWs - he didn't have a religious shield, he had college and political connections.

What a fuckin' hypocrite.

wakemewhenitsover

(1,595 posts)
48. Not to mention a high draft number...
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 10:22 PM
Jan 2012

From Wikipedia: "Regarding the military draft, Romney had initially gotten a student deferment, then like most other Mormon missionaries had received a ministerial deferment while in France, then got another student deferment.[25][34] When those ran out, his high number in the December 1969 draft lottery (300) meant he would not be selected."

Of course, that might have been thanks to the political connections.

So I guess his attitude was, "I'm not going, but you should."

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
55. his dickishness is genetic. it even radiates from his sons. You know, the ones who fought for their
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 10:49 PM
Jan 2012

country by trying to get old dad elected last time. I loathe them. Viscerally.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
2. GOP = "Gang Of hyPocrites"
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jan 2012

Demonstrating for the draft when you have an exemption from that same draft?

This coward stains the memories of those brave Americans who were drafted and never came back...

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
19. The draft makes my blood boil
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:44 PM
Jan 2012

And seeing that exempt jerk protesting in favor of it..... ARGH.

The hypocrisy is so great it has its own gravitational field!

Joe Bacon

(5,165 posts)
43. He was too chicken to go.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 07:17 PM
Jan 2012

But like every other chicken hawk, he wants others to do his fighting for him.

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
21. So true.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:47 PM
Jan 2012

Last edited Fri Jan 6, 2012, 07:25 PM - Edit history (1)

I was a senior in college in 1966 (in Kansas I might add) demostrating against the war. My brother enlisted in 1964 because he was about to be drafted. My boyfriend did the same. I had already lost a good friend from high school. My sister dropped out of college to marry her boyfriend and start a family so he could not be drafted.

That damn war changed everything.

I am seething with anger at that smug rat bastard.

The picture brings up bad memories...

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
3. Anyone else notice that Ron Paul brought up Newt being a chickenhawk but not Romney?
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:40 AM
Jan 2012

He could have killed two chickenhawks with one stone but didn't.

Wonder why that was?

Don

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
6. This stuff writes itself.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:42 AM
Jan 2012

Team Obama won't have to get very creative to reveal what an asshole Romney is. He has done all the work in that regard.

Julie

Spazito

(50,514 posts)
7. wow...
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:42 AM
Jan 2012

In favor of a draft policy from which he was exempt. How utterly brave of him to put his life on the line to serve.....oh....wait...how brave of him to support putting everyone else's life on the line BUT his.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
8. If only he was smoking a pipe and holding a brandy.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:44 AM
Jan 2012

He's probably one of those idiots who still think Vietnam was a just war, even in hindsight.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
9. Ever since I saw him he reminded me of somebody
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:48 AM
Jan 2012

When I saw that picture it suddenly hit me.



Greg Marmalard, formerly the whitest person in America (before Mitt).

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
10. LOL! Perfect!
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:56 AM
Jan 2012

He and the young Mittens share one thing - a facial expression that makes you want to pelt them with rocks and garbage.

Botany

(70,615 posts)
11. Chicken Hawk
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:56 AM
Jan 2012

Chicken Hawk Little Turd ...... Protesting so others can go and fight in Vietnam because he
knew that since he was rich and connected there was no way he would have to go and risk his ass.
The same Mitt grow up to be so cold and nasty that he made millions killing off jobs for many
Americans.


BTW I bet some Vietnam vets would recoil in horror @ see this picture.

yardwork

(61,722 posts)
15. It was not a particularly unpopular stance at the time.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:00 PM
Jan 2012

In 1966 there were relatively few protests against the draft. Many students at affluent private universities like Stanford knew that they were unlikely to be drafted. It was quite easy to get exemptions, as Dick Cheney and most of the other Republicans now in office did.

Even at the height of the anti-war protests in the late 1960s and early 1970s many, many Americans disagreed with the protests. Many people were quite happy to let others be drafted. And there was a lot of patriotic fervor even then.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
16. the fortunate son
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:06 PM
Jan 2012

of a fortunate son,
who now has five fortunate sons.
Not a one fought in wars they supported in word, deed and money. At least three generations of .01% chickenhawk hypocrites in one family.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
22. Man. Openly Economic Darwinist, serial waffler, protested FOR conscription, 1%'er . . .
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:49 PM
Jan 2012

. . . somehow the words "Obama couldn't be HANDED a better opponent" doesn't quite cut it.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
23. Fortunate Son...
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 01:00 PM
Jan 2012
&feature=related


Fortunate Son
Recorded by Creedence Clearwater Revival
Written by John Fogerty

Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the chief"
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no

Yeah!
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh
But when the taxman comes to the door
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no millionaire's son, no
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no

Some folks inherit star spangled eyes
Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
Ooh, they only answer More! more! more! yoh

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no military son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, one

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one, no no no
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate son, no no no




zbdent

(35,392 posts)
31. initially, he was for the war ... but then, he got more informed about it (read: he was going
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 02:55 PM
Jan 2012

to run for President) and came out against the war ... (think Nixon's "I have a secret plan to get out of Vietnam&quot . Suddenly, the rumor was that he was "brainwashed by the communists" ... a concern that Mitt actually adopted, and, IIRC, Mitt came out questioning his own father's "mental health".

Strange, since many times, mental illness can run in families ... and, since Mitt would think his father might have been mentally ill, then it would follow that Mitt could suffer from mental illness, too ...

yellowcanine

(35,702 posts)
34. Actually George Romney said he had been "brainwashed" by the U.S. military commanders and diplomats
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 04:38 PM
Jan 2012

on a visit to Saigon in 1967. The statement pretty much finished off his campaign for the Republican nomination for President in 1968. That more or less left the field open for Nixon, as Romney was the most serious obstacle to Nixon, though Nelson Rockefeller and even Ronald Reagan garnered a significant number of delegates.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
26. not qualified to be Commander in Chief. This should kill him off
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 01:37 PM
Jan 2012

he can't clear that essential hurdle




I'm sorry to say it but this now brings his faith into the debate. If he used it to avoid the draft then it is fair game. We need to start asking about how his faith, and his prior status as someone exempt from the draft, would influence him as CIC. Also how he can be so gung ho about attacking Iran when this seems to be contrary to his faith.


I don't like playing the religion card but he did it first.

yellowcanine

(35,702 posts)
35. In 1966, it was not that uncommon. By the late 60s of course it was pretty rare.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 04:46 PM
Jan 2012

When I was in public high school in 1966 blue jeans were still somewhat frowned upon.

kiranon

(1,727 posts)
29. Every time I see Romney's sons around him, I wonder why his sons did not
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 01:41 PM
Jan 2012

serve in Iraq or Afghanistan. Then I remember, Romney didn't serve - "like father, like son." It's easy to be a chickenhawk and promote military engagements when there is no personal cost to be considered.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
32. Hmmmm...I always wanted one of those Tricia Nixon GOP Girls from the 60s
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 02:57 PM
Jan 2012

Totally off topic, but something about them

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
53. COME! ON! Don't tell me you did not want that!!!!
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 10:39 PM
Jan 2012

That is, corrupting the "uncorruptable" (as if Nixon's kids could be that...)

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
58. Hmmm not sure what the equivalent would be...
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 12:09 AM
Jan 2012

Say, a fundy Christian, tight as hell, realizing his life was a lie...

Would that work?

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
36. Chicken hawks sicken me
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 04:55 PM
Jan 2012

He knew he was exempt because he was a "Mormon missionary", but he had no problem protesting in favor of sending young people to their deaths in an unwinnable war in an jungle on the other side of the planet.

Fuck you, Willard.

 

slay

(7,670 posts)
39. Republicans, I think, are heartless and cruel by nature
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 07:08 PM
Jan 2012

i think you have to be to support all their hate filled policies.

i hope this makes the rounds on the interwebs though - people need to know just how big of an asshole this guy is. and when he's not doing that he's - Tying his dog to the roof of his car for a 12 hour trip! heartless bastard.

"... the family went on a 12-hour drive with their pet Irish setter strapped to the roof of the car in a crate. -- http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/01/picture-of-the-day-the-past-dogs-mitt-romney/250991/

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
42. Awesome photo that needs to go viral. Posting to my Facebook page
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 07:16 PM
Jan 2012

right now. Let me know if that's a prob.

 

slay

(7,670 posts)
47. Go for it!
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 07:27 PM
Jan 2012

it's a pic of a dude from liberal activist group "SC Forward Progress" and I'm sure they'd be glad for people to pass it around. Here's some of what they had to say about it to buzzfeed:

"Anyone who would strap their dog to the top of a moving car has neither a soul nor a brain," SC Forward Progress said in a statement provided to BuzzFeed. Mitt Romney obviously does not share our South Carolina values. South Carolinians deserve to know about Mitt Romney's history of animal cruelty. We do not strap our dogs to the tops of cars in this state. Not only is it illegal, it's downright cruel."

from: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/01/picture-of-the-day-the-past-dogs-mitt-romney/250991/

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
41. On another thread, a DUer said Santorum was the 'biggest asshole,' a judgment
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 07:14 PM
Jan 2012

with which I took issue, finding them tied. I think this thread pretty much tips the balance of who's the biggest asshole firmly in Romney's favor.

Goddamn, this really pisses me off.

I wish John Kerry would come out and just destroy Romney for this.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
44. War for thee but not for me
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 07:19 PM
Jan 2012

He should have had that on his little picket sign. Nearly 46 years later, and he is still a big hypocrite and elitist snob.

JI7

(89,279 posts)
54. Put This Pic Next to the one with Romney and the Money
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 10:41 PM
Jan 2012


for those who can do videos put these two pics and the audio of him offering the 10k bet
 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
61. He was protesting to send other people, against their will, to kill and die while he was exempt.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 08:28 AM
Jan 2012

I can just hear his chants now: "Send them now." "Draft others, not me." "I've got 3 deferments but send other people."
"I like war but wont be fighting in this one or the next." "Force other people to fight and die, not me."

Sounds like what all RepubliCONS say and do.

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