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spanone

(135,880 posts)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 01:57 PM Jan 2020

America, don't forget that President Obama had a deal with Iran.

The Iran nuclear deal framework was a preliminary framework agreement reached in 2015 between the Islamic Republic of Iran and a group of world powers: the P5+1 (the permanent members of the United Nations Security Council—the United States, the United Kingdom, Russia, France, and China—plus Germany) and the European Union.

Negotiations for a framework deal over the nuclear program of Iran took place between the foreign ministers of the countries at a series of meetings held from March 26 to April 2, 2015 in Lausanne, Switzerland. On April 2 the talks came to a conclusion and a press conference was held by Federica Mogherini (High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy) and Mohammad Javad Zarif (Minister of Foreign Affairs of Iran) to announce that the eight parties had reached an agreement on a framework deal. The parties announced, "Today, we have taken a decisive step: we have reached solutions on key parameters of a Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action," which they intended to complete by June 30.[1][2][3][4] Announcing the framework, Foreign Minister Zarif stated: "No agreement has been reached so we do not have any obligation yet. Nobody has obligations now other than obligations that we already undertook under the Joint Plan of Action that we adopted in Geneva in November 2013."[5]

The framework deal was embodied in a document published by the EU's European External Action Service titled Joint Statement by EU High Representative Federica Mogherini and Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif Switzerland,[1] and in a document published by the U.S. Department of State titled Parameters for a Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action Regarding the Islamic Republic of Iran's Nuclear Program.[6]

On July 14, 2015, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action between Iran and the P5+1 and EU, a comprehensive agreement based on the April 2015 framework, was announced.[7]


On May 8, 2018, United States President Donald Trump announced the United States was withdrawing from the deal.[8]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal_framework

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America, don't forget that President Obama had a deal with Iran. (Original Post) spanone Jan 2020 OP
I doubt the European countries have forgotten that Trump got himself into this mess. Chemisse Jan 2020 #1
I wonder if North Korea will be our ally in this war. world wide wally Jan 2020 #7
Hah! EndlessWire Jan 2020 #10
Saw this on DW. We used to have a strategy but now... bronxiteforever Jan 2020 #2
Yes, Trump had to "undo" Obama's accomplishment yellowwoodII Jan 2020 #3
Yes. n/t EndlessWire Jan 2020 #11
I saw this video earlier in the day of the great negotiator from 2011 OnlinePoker Jan 2020 #4
This is on dump, the criminal party & the idiots who voted for them. rickyhall Jan 2020 #5
Yes- but the RW spin machine convinced GOPee voters that it was all an 'Obama sham' sandensea Jan 2020 #6
Bibi came out today praising trump (of course) spanone Jan 2020 #8
The larcenous bastard wants war with Iran sandensea Jan 2020 #9
Maybe he wants EndlessWire Jan 2020 #12
Bibi has an oar in this one - no doubt about it sandensea Jan 2020 #13
Exactly. He's always wanted us to fight it for him. Chemisse Jan 2020 #14
+1 sandensea Jan 2020 #15

Chemisse

(30,817 posts)
1. I doubt the European countries have forgotten that Trump got himself into this mess.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 02:03 PM
Jan 2020

I wonder if he will ask them to help with the resulting disaster.

EndlessWire

(6,569 posts)
10. Hah!
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 07:52 PM
Jan 2020

We'll be lucky if we're not fighting on two fronts. And, they both have nukes.

Fucking Orange Turd and his evil spawn, and all those GOP assholes whose children WON'T be fighting on the front....or anywhere...and he thinks putting us in this jeopardy will win him points from his base. Bet he uses the returning Embassy coffins as a photo op...wonder if he'll hump the flag then...

He's gonna have to have Marines go to the Embassy and fight those "protesters." Gonna get worse real fast. How are those Embassy personnel supposed to get out? How much food and water do they have?

Fuck Trump. WE WILL IMPEACH YOU AGAIN, IF NECESSARY. We WILL change CiC during a war, if necessary. THIS WILL NOT SAVE YOUR ASS.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
2. Saw this on DW. We used to have a strategy but now...
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 02:08 PM
Jan 2020

“Iran will "try very hard to evict United States forces from Iraq," Guido Steinberg from the German Institute for International & Security Affairs told DW TV.
"The United States doesn't have a strategy," he said. "Maximum pressure is not a strategy." 

https://www.dw.com/en/iran-vows-retaliation-after-us-kills-top-general-in-iraq-live-updates/a-51874503

yellowwoodII

(616 posts)
3. Yes, Trump had to "undo" Obama's accomplishment
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jan 2020

Trump's been itching for this. Remember recently when he sent ships offshore as a threat to Iran?

OnlinePoker

(5,725 posts)
4. I saw this video earlier in the day of the great negotiator from 2011
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 04:09 PM
Jan 2020

It would be funny if it wasn't so fucking scary.

&feature=youtu.be

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
5. This is on dump, the criminal party & the idiots who voted for them.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 04:11 PM
Jan 2020

But it'll be our young soldiers and other innocents who will pay the price.
As usual.

sandensea

(21,670 posts)
6. Yes- but the RW spin machine convinced GOPee voters that it was all an 'Obama sham'
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 04:19 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Fri Jan 3, 2020, 07:03 PM - Edit history (1)

Bibi did his part too, of course - during that shameful congressional propaganda stunt in 2015.

If any foreign power is behind this latest Cheeto move, it's him.

sandensea

(21,670 posts)
13. Bibi has an oar in this one - no doubt about it
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 08:11 PM
Jan 2020


"You really think this could get me re-elected?"

"Donald! When have I ever lied to you? (you witless dolt)"

Chemisse

(30,817 posts)
14. Exactly. He's always wanted us to fight it for him.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:29 PM
Jan 2020

That's why he loves Trump so much - somebody stupid enough to fall for it.

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