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Our Reality President (Original Post) edhopper Jan 2020 OP
Time for some Baudrillard! Newest Reality Jan 2020 #1
this is so fitting. edhopper Jan 2020 #2
Glad you thought so! Newest Reality Jan 2020 #4
Same difference pandr32 Jan 2020 #3

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
1. Time for some Baudrillard!
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 06:26 PM
Jan 2020

He was a rather deep thinker and often rather abstract as well. You could call him post-modern, which is now getting rather dated to me, but his philosophy is rather on point in regards to America and its media-driven facade. I think of him as rather prescient as we move more into the show, the image, The Spectacle as our collective reality. It is not hard to relate Baudrillard's ideas to the Reality Show President and why that worked so well in his campaign and now during the term.

Sometimes, deconstructing it with hyperbole makes it more obvious:

Simulacra and Simulation is most known for its discussion of symbols, signs, and how they relate to contemporaneity (simultaneous existences).[6] Baudrillard claims that our current society has replaced all reality and meaning with symbols and signs, and that human experience is a simulation of reality.[7] Moreover, these simulacra are not merely mediations of reality, nor even deceptive mediations of reality; they are not based in a reality nor do they hide a reality, they simply hide that nothing like reality is relevant to our current understanding of our lives.[citation needed] The simulacra that Baudrillard refers to are the significations and symbolism of culture and media that construct perceived reality, the acquired understanding by which our lives and shared existence is and are rendered legible. (Baudrillard may have taken all of these ideas from the first pages of Guy Debord's 1967 La société du spectacle (The Society of the Spectacle[8]). Baudrillard believed that society has become so saturated with these simulacra and our lives so saturated with the constructs of society that all meaning was being rendered meaningless by being infinitely mutable; he called this phenomenon the "precession of simulacra".[9]

Henceforth, it is the map that precedes the territory—precession of simulacra—it is the map that engenders the territory and if we were to revive the fable today, it would be the territory whose shreds are slowly rotting across the map.[10]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
4. Glad you thought so!
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 06:39 PM
Jan 2020

Anecdotally, I came across him from watching the move The Matrix. I wondered what the book that Neo kept his contraband in was about and if it was a real book.

Well, it turned out that the movie incorporates some of Baudrillard's thinking, (well, Simulation, of course) and was inspirational for the plot. When Morpheus says, "Welcome to the desert of the real..." that's a quote from the book.

So, I read the book and I do admit it took some concentration and even rereading of parts, but it was quite astute and profound to me, in its own way. I think it goes along with Korzybski, Chomsky, McLuhan, and others concerning modern media and its relationship to reality, which I find very interesting and revealing, like pulling back the covers.

pandr32

(11,624 posts)
3. Same difference
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 06:38 PM
Jan 2020

tRumpy is always acting for the camera. He is play-acting a real position, though. We need a giant hook to pull him off stage before any more people are killed. The damage in the world is very real and we will all pay the consequences.
Maybe we can lure him into another big truck so he can pretend to drive it again and then slam the doors closed and don't let him out again.

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