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kentuck

(111,104 posts) Sun Jan 5, 2020, 08:26 PM Jan 2020

They need to find a way to get Pence in and Trump out.

It's time for someone to deliver the letter.

The House and Senate leaders must find a way to communicate with each other. They must come to an understanding about what is happening? They must not be afraid of the truth. They must be as impartial as possible. It is not easy in these partisan times.

They must agree to have witnesses before the Senate trial. If they are afraid of the truth or don't have the courage to face it, then they should recuse themselves from the process. Perhaps their voters can find someone better to represent them?

There is no reason that the Gang of Eight cannot come together and communicate what they think is happening? They need to begin talks.

It is time to replace Trump. We are on the verge of a war in the Middle East and no one knows how bad it might get? It is a very serious matter. It needs to be addressed by our leaders in Congress.

Things are going to get even worse if they do not remove this president. How much more do they need to see? This has to be beyond Party politics. That makes it a huge task.

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They need to find a way to get Pence in and Trump out. (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2020 OP

I doubt, if Trump stepped aside, he'd be satisfied to maintain a hands off position. Karadeniz Jan 2020 #1

I'm sure you are right. kentuck Jan 2020 #3

You're giving the GOP half of the Gang of Eight way too much credit. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #2

They have to try. kentuck Jan 2020 #4

Do you know who is on the R side of the Gang of Eight? TwilightZone Jan 2020 #8

Oh !! kentuck Jan 2020 #12

They have 2 ways dflprincess Jan 2020 #5

After that, they need to impeach Pence BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #6

Then we will have a President Pelosi if this happens before the election onetexan Jan 2020 #9

... BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #11

Do you really thing that it would be substantially different with Pence? dhol82 Jan 2020 #7

Do you not see any difference between Pence and Trump? kentuck Jan 2020 #10

Pence is a Dominionist dhol82 Jan 2020 #18

"Pence helped run herd on meetings and conference calls in the run-up to the strike" dalton99a Jan 2020 #13

He's in it bad, but... kentuck Jan 2020 #14

which tells us he, too, is not fit to lead Skittles Jan 2020 #15

Well if the Iranians have put a price on Trump's head, that's a way. milestogo Jan 2020 #16

Pence as a viable alternative sounds like arthritisR_US Jan 2020 #17

Karadeniz

(22,537 posts)

1. I doubt, if Trump stepped aside, he'd be satisfied to maintain a hands off position.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 08:29 PM

Jan 2020

kentuck

(111,104 posts)

3. I'm sure you are right.

Reply to Karadeniz (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 08:33 PM

Jan 2020

But it might get us through to the election.

In my opinion, the country is in a crisis.

Is it hyperbole?

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)

2. You're giving the GOP half of the Gang of Eight way too much credit.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 08:31 PM

Jan 2020

They've had no real objections to anything Trump's ever done, so why would they start now?

kentuck

(111,104 posts)

4. They have to try.

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 08:34 PM

Jan 2020

They cannot communicate at this time. If they cannot talk with each other, what are our chances?

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)

8. Do you know who is on the R side of the Gang of Eight?

Reply to kentuck (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:15 PM

Jan 2020

Nunes
Burr
McCarthy
McConnell

You seriously think any of those four idiots is going to do anything about Trump?

Not happening.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)

12. Oh !!

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:34 PM

Jan 2020

Those ogres?

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)

5. They have 2 ways

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 08:37 PM

Jan 2020

Invoke the 25th Amendment or hold a honest impeachment trial and vote to remove him.

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)

6. After that, they need to impeach Pence

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 08:44 PM

Jan 2020

for his complicity in all of IMPOTUS's impeachable actions as well.

onetexan

(13,043 posts)

9. Then we will have a President Pelosi if this happens before the election

Reply to BlueMTexpat (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:17 PM

Jan 2020

Long shot but its a great thought

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)

11. ...

Reply to onetexan (Reply #9)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:31 PM

Jan 2020

dhol82

(9,353 posts)

7. Do you really thing that it would be substantially different with Pence?

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 08:48 PM

Jan 2020

kentuck

(111,104 posts)

10. Do you not see any difference between Pence and Trump?

Reply to dhol82 (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:29 PM

Jan 2020

For some reason, it's probably only by degrees?

dhol82

(9,353 posts)

18. Pence is a Dominionist

Reply to kentuck (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:12 AM

Jan 2020

If anything, he and Barr can conspire to implement more of that particular agenda.
I see nothing positive about swapping in Pence.

dalton99a

(81,516 posts)

13. "Pence helped run herd on meetings and conference calls in the run-up to the strike"

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:36 PM

Jan 2020

That official described the intelligence as thin and said that General Suleimani’s attack was not imminent because of communications the United States had between Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and General Suleimani showing that the ayatollah had not yet approved any plans by the general for an attack. The ayatollah, according to the communications, had asked General Suleimani to come to Tehran for further discussions at least a week before his death.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Vice President Mike Pence were two of the most hawkish voices arguing for a response to Iranian aggression, according to administration officials. Mr. Pence’s office helped run herd on meetings and conference calls held by officials in the run-up to the strike.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/04/us/politics/trump-suleimani.html