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Comatose Sphagetti

(836 posts)
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 08:54 PM Jan 2020

The consensus of the locals here in rural Indiana...

1. Obama was a pussy for not taking Soleimani out years ago.

2. DJT is strong and brave.

3. The tail-wagging-the-dog scenario is not even on the radar.

4. A friend has a daughter being deployed. Scared shitless, but God has this. Even if her daughter comes back in a body bag, my friend will still be a trumper. It will be the Democrats fault.

5. Jesus.

6. 'Murca!

I am surrounded on all sides by authoritarian followers with absolutely no critical thinking skills or self-awareness.



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The consensus of the locals here in rural Indiana... (Original Post) Comatose Sphagetti Jan 2020 OP
Just wanna kill some "funny looking people with strange religions", they've made that clear ck4829 Jan 2020 #1
Scary shit ain't it? nt dware Jan 2020 #2
Ain't nobody shadowmayor Jan 2020 #47
If Obama should have taken Soleimani out years ago, why did Trump wait for 3 years to do it? StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #3
That's a simple answer... TheBlackAdder Jan 2020 #17
++++++++++++++++++++++!!!!!!! 2naSalit Jan 2020 #36
To the tune of "Tradition!" from Fiddler on the Roof: Projection! salin Jan 2020 #38
My Mom was from Indiana. Progressive Jones Jan 2020 #70
This should be a lead story everywhere DonaldsRump Jan 2020 #76
Great point! Karadeniz Jan 2020 #26
Or chimpy? not fooled Jan 2020 #37
Why didn't Trump go after him sooner? Renew Deal Jan 2020 #4
Just not motivated enough TexasBushwhacker Jan 2020 #41
Yeah. ismnotwasm Jan 2020 #5
Wow, never heard that song before. kag Jan 2020 #81
Local trumper here today at gym said, 'trump did what he had to do. He did empedocles Jan 2020 #6
Don't know a lot of MAGAts personally. ooky Jan 2020 #9
I suggest Wawannabe Jan 2020 #54
Ha! nt Mars and Minerva Jan 2020 #65
Laughing. nt ooky Jan 2020 #67
Osama Bin Laden. paleotn Jan 2020 #14
That is a pathetic, un-American talking point. PatrickforO Jan 2020 #44
repugs smashed our education 'system' years ago, elleng Jan 2020 #7
. RandySF Jan 2020 #8
I haven't met anyone yet in the real world who has shown interest in this. Facebook is quiet too. Kaleva Jan 2020 #10
Me neither. This junk has been going on for as long as I can remember and won't end until Hoyt Jan 2020 #21
I've been around for 6 decades now and as far as I recall, the ME has been nothing but conflict. Kaleva Jan 2020 #23
I have an old copy of the front page of the Washington Post. Mr.Bill Jan 2020 #40
+1 Kaleva Jan 2020 #78
My Facebook friends share Propaganda AwakeAtLast Jan 2020 #51
I live in rural Michigan. Most of my friends and family on FB stay away from politics. Kaleva Jan 2020 #79
Consider yourself fortunate AwakeAtLast Jan 2020 #89
Listen he can shit in a bag and light it on fire and they would proclaim greatness. Shit of fools. UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #11
This is a good article that explains the phenomenon.... BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #12
Saw that. Comatose Sphagetti Jan 2020 #13
That's verification....thanks! BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #15
That's a really great analysis. Enlightening. pnwest Jan 2020 #66
do a shot of tequila or a doob... samnsara Jan 2020 #16
Had a double in my margarita and about to roll one! Wawannabe Jan 2020 #56
Ugh! paleotn Jan 2020 #18
Well, member of some cults often let the cult leader fuck their daughters Flaleftist Jan 2020 #19
It's what always happens. Could anything ever change this reality? NT enough Jan 2020 #20
Stupid peasants, always around throught histoty Miigwech Jan 2020 #22
O.M.G. How stupid can one be? dhol82 Jan 2020 #24
You're right. Comatose Sphagetti Jan 2020 #28
I'm not sure even a catastrophic episode could change the minds of these people. dhol82 Jan 2020 #71
Your locals are imbeciles. Martin Eden Jan 2020 #25
We need to remind Republicans that President Obama's State Dept...... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #27
Fellow Hoosier Sufferer Here Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2020 #29
Your list... Newest Reality Jan 2020 #30
"Yet, it is so obvious..." Comatose Sphagetti Jan 2020 #32
They see it they just don't care Kaiserguy Jan 2020 #50
more proof they are a cult Skittles Jan 2020 #31
Give them a copy of the Constitution and ask them why those guys did this bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #33
too many words maxsolomon Jan 2020 #88
My recommendation? MOVE! George II Jan 2020 #34
Yah well, warmfeet Jan 2020 #35
+Millions.... Wawannabe Jan 2020 #60
That's what decades of brain washing will do for some people. hadEnuf Jan 2020 #39
Poster children for why abortion should be safe, legal and on demand. roamer65 Jan 2020 #42
Left Indiana in 2005 and haven't looked back. I saw the writing on the wall during Bush II. Missn-Hitch Jan 2020 #43
You have stupid, stupid, stupid neighbors. See what decades of degrading education systems can do. usaf-vet Jan 2020 #45
+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #73
I give up on these people. mountain grammy Jan 2020 #46
'It will be the Democrats fault' Volaris Jan 2020 #48
One of the worst things to happen to America was Reagan's getting rid of the fairness doctrine. Botany Jan 2020 #49
Exactly Right! We have sat back and watch the RW in this country pick away at our protections. usaf-vet Jan 2020 #75
30% + of Americans get their "news" from places like Fox News, News Max, talk radio, and or their Botany Jan 2020 #77
Concur 100% D_Master81 Jan 2020 #52
Exactly Wawannabe Jan 2020 #53
A bit of good news... tavernier Jan 2020 #55
No surprise at all bitterross Jan 2020 #57
I'm surrounded by that shit every damn day. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2020 #58
Indiana rso Jan 2020 #59
Scary. Pepsidog Jan 2020 #61
I will look forward to buying their assets on the cheap when they go broke JDC Jan 2020 #62
same here in west MI. I'm living behind enemy lines. nt yaesu Jan 2020 #63
Sounds like Ohio nt doc03 Jan 2020 #64
Rush Limpballs and Faux news has brainwashed a goodly portion Scotch-Irish Jan 2020 #68
Are you sure you don't live in my state, The Figment Jan 2020 #69
$5 a gallon gas/fuel oil/propane might change their minds? jpak Jan 2020 #72
There is nothing that will happen that will change their little Trump loving minds. UCmeNdc Jan 2020 #74
Is number five lunatica Jan 2020 #80
They have been so indoctrinated with propaganda, they don't live in reality to escape deep despair dlk Jan 2020 #82
Idiocracy was right. Jakes Progress Jan 2020 #83
Is it possible some of them don't really think that treestar Jan 2020 #84
You deserve a pity party, for sure. ananda Jan 2020 #85
His base is insane. Anyone who thinks November is in the bag, is smoking really good shit. AtheistCrusader Jan 2020 #86
Sounds an awful lot like 2003 to me. Small town Amurica. GWB Cheney Rumsfeldt japple Jan 2020 #87

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
1. Just wanna kill some "funny looking people with strange religions", they've made that clear
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 08:55 PM
Jan 2020

They're practically giddy fantasizing about it.

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
47. Ain't nobody
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:41 PM
Jan 2020

Nobody knew who this Iranian general was a week ago. And nobody talks about the Iraqi politician killed as well al-Muhandis. But USA USA and freedom!

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
3. If Obama should have taken Soleimani out years ago, why did Trump wait for 3 years to do it?
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 08:56 PM
Jan 2020

I mean, you know ...

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
17. That's a simple answer...
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:17 PM
Jan 2020

.

Donald J. Trump
?Verified account @realDonaldTrump

I always said @BarackObama will attack Iran, in some form, prior to the election.
1:24 PM - 16 Aug 2012



Donald J. Trump
?Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Polls are starting to look really bad for Obama. Looks like he'll have to start a war or major conflict to win. Don't put it past him!
7:30 AM - 17 Oct 2012



Donald J. Trump
?Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Don't let Obama play the Iran card in order to start a war in order to get elected--be careful Republicans!
9:43 AM - 22 Oct 2012




We all new he's do something to start a conflict or war, we just didn't know when.

.

salin

(48,955 posts)
38. To the tune of "Tradition!" from Fiddler on the Roof: Projection!
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:11 PM
Jan 2020

But the indoctrinated won't understand recognize this phenomenon.

For what it is worth, I am in Indiana, and have friends and relatives in various parts of south central Indiana. And none hold the views from the OP. But, we are not the majority - but we are a growing presence. (in Bloomington, Columbus and Franklin), and the next generation who were raised here but now live in Boston, Atlanta, Minneapolis, Indianapolis and Boise, also do not adhere to the sentiments expressed.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
70. My Mom was from Indiana.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 03:34 AM
Jan 2020

Her family was spread out around Ft. Wayne, Wabash, Marion, etc.

Everyone from her family has left Indiana. They claim it became too "redneck" for them in a place they'd lived there entire lives..

When rednecks start thinking that somewhere is "too redneck", things are bad.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
76. This should be a lead story everywhere
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 11:30 AM
Jan 2020

It CLEARLY tells why Trump did this.

D's: PLEASE, OH PLEASE, make sure these tweets are seen by as many people and media as possible!

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
37. Or chimpy?
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:11 PM
Jan 2020

Even C-Plus Augustus (thanks to the great Charlie Pierce for that nickname) knew better--Soleimani was on his radar, too, but he knew better than to take him out.

Did the yokels even know Soleimani's name a week ago? Of course not. Now they are foreign policy experts.


empedocles

(15,751 posts)
6. Local trumper here today at gym said, 'trump did what he had to do. He did
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 08:57 PM
Jan 2020

what Obama didn't have the balls to do.' [Seemed proud].

ooky

(8,924 posts)
9. Don't know a lot of MAGAts personally.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:04 PM
Jan 2020

But the first one that tells me Trump did "what he had to do" I am going to ask how he/she knows.

PatrickforO

(14,577 posts)
44. That is a pathetic, un-American talking point.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:24 PM
Jan 2020

Smells like some stinky Limburger...eh, Limbaugh, I mean...

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
10. I haven't met anyone yet in the real world who has shown interest in this. Facebook is quiet too.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:06 PM
Jan 2020

If they have opinions on this matter, they have not shared them with me.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
21. Me neither. This junk has been going on for as long as I can remember and won't end until
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:24 PM
Jan 2020

we pack up our military and leave the Middle East.

Whoever is Prez will do wrong whether they kill people like Soleimani, or do nothing and work toward unattainable peace. Obama got criticized for strikes and for doing nothing.

Leave, before Iraq changes their mind again.

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
23. I've been around for 6 decades now and as far as I recall, the ME has been nothing but conflict.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:30 PM
Jan 2020

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
40. I have an old copy of the front page of the Washington Post.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:13 PM
Jan 2020

The headline reads:

UN backs Arab peace plan 80-0
Hope for new era of peace in the Middle East


It's from 1958.

AwakeAtLast

(14,132 posts)
51. My Facebook friends share Propaganda
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:08 PM
Jan 2020

Masquerading as memes. I live in blood red Southern Illinois. The people I grew up with and live around are masterbating themselves over this. It is vomit inducing.



Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
79. I live in rural Michigan. Most of my friends and family on FB stay away from politics.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 02:24 PM
Jan 2020

Ad I haven't seen anything from those those who occasionallt do post about politics.

AwakeAtLast

(14,132 posts)
89. Consider yourself fortunate
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 11:33 PM
Jan 2020

One person consistently post "news articles" from the Epoch Times! And thinks they're legitimate!

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
18. Ugh!
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:19 PM
Jan 2020

Reasons number 3,482 thru 3,487 why we left rural North Carolina the first chance we got. Same shit, different state. I feel your pain.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
19. Well, member of some cults often let the cult leader fuck their daughters
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:20 PM
Jan 2020

It's certainly believable some Trumpers will let his reckless actions get their kids killed and they will still love him.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
24. O.M.G. How stupid can one be?
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:30 PM
Jan 2020

There is no way to fight against this kind of hard headed refusal to see reality.

Comatose Sphagetti

(836 posts)
28. You're right.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:43 PM
Jan 2020

The only way I see minds changed is through:

1. Catastrophic personal consequences.

2. A complete psychic change - be it quick or slow - brought about by treatment.

Saw change happen many times in my work w/addicts. But they were ready and willing due to the influences of 1. or 2. above.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
71. I'm not sure even a catastrophic episode could change the minds of these people.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:10 AM
Jan 2020

They will feel justified in sacrificing their children for the greater glory of their chosen savior.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
27. We need to remind Republicans that President Obama's State Dept......
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:38 PM
Jan 2020

was up to their ears in international negotiations to finalize a very complex nuclear agreement with Iran. I recall the many trials Sec. Kerry went through that seemed endless at the time.

It wouldn't be very smart to assassinate one of Iran's top leaders during that time.

Oh wait....I'm forgetting the Rethugs don't understand diplomacy or multilateral deals.

They also don't comprehend "smart"..........

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
30. Your list...
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:46 PM
Jan 2020

Is like the instructions for how you end a democracy quickly and become a Fascist country in no time.

And the thing is, I bet those people who espouse those views have any idea what the implications of their biases and ideas are. Not even a clue. Yet, it is so obvious if one knows more about how this country was founded and what has happened in Europe in the aftermath of that kind thinking they have.

Just a few jumps and leaps from that mindset and you are in Orwell's 1984 and you will blame who Big Brother tells you is to blame, for the moment.

Comatose Sphagetti

(836 posts)
32. "Yet, it is so obvious..."
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:52 PM
Jan 2020

...if one knows more about how this country was founded and what has happened in Europe in the aftermath of that kind thinking they have."


They do not see it.

The whole critical thinking thing is non-existent.

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
50. They see it they just don't care
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:56 PM
Jan 2020

They believe that it won't effect them they will be at the top of the heap. However Fascism has a bad habit of eating it's own that is what they don't get and won't get until it's to late.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
35. Yah well,
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:09 PM
Jan 2020

that is not my country. I am going to do whatever I can to reclaim the country I want - not the shithole these morons want.

Fuck these authoritarian assholes.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
48. 'It will be the Democrats fault'
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:41 PM
Jan 2020

I gauranFUCKINGtee you if that girl comes back alive, it will be because trump got removed from office before she got shot for her country.

'Gods got this.'...NO but Nancy sure as hell does.

Tell her THAT, and walk the fuck away.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
49. One of the worst things to happen to America was Reagan's getting rid of the fairness doctrine.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:44 PM
Jan 2020

We now have generations who have grown up with family, friends, and Christian Fundamentalist
bigotry but their warped views have been reinforced by hate talk radio, Fox News, internet garbage,
and pure crap from their pastors without getting any reality. People like Fox News because it makes
the viewer feel good about their views on the world.

In early October of 2019 I drove from Columbus, OH to Fayetteville, W.V. and for long stretches on
just the car radio I got country music, Jesus, and hate talk from the likes of Sebastian Gorka just
spreading lies.

It is not just in rural Indiana too. I have a customer who told me that Hillary Clinton had somebody
killed in order to hide Bill's cocaine ring.

usaf-vet

(6,189 posts)
75. Exactly Right! We have sat back and watch the RW in this country pick away at our protections.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 10:51 AM
Jan 2020

Sat and watched. In most cases without so much as a peep of resistance.

We may have already crossed the point of no return. Hopefully not.

But our leaders in Congress need to get off their a$$es and not give up any more ground. No compromising with RW that just laugh at our willingness to hand over and accept changes without a fight.

The apparent willingness to fight back of some of our newest ["The SQUAD"] Congress members is encouraging.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
77. 30% + of Americans get their "news" from places like Fox News, News Max, talk radio, and or their
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 11:37 AM
Jan 2020

Pastors w/out knowing they are being lied to. Add in the planned destruction of our public education,
libraries, parks, postal service, and the pushing of right wing memes on basic cable and we a huge
population of dumb fucks. i.e. "It is snowing today so we can't have global warming."

The one thing we have going for us is population demographics and America only has so many
angry old white men and their #s are dropping every day.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
52. Concur 100%
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:16 PM
Jan 2020

Not sure where in Indiana the OP is but here in the rural north this is pretty much spot on. In fact the more outrageous Trump becomes the more they love him.

tavernier

(12,392 posts)
55. A bit of good news...
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:28 PM
Jan 2020

In usually red Shelbyville, Rump is pretty much regarded as a dumb ass. Not a friend to farmers, and people are catching on to his stupid double talk. I’ve been there since October and I’m pretty happy to see eyes being opened.

JDC

(10,129 posts)
62. I will look forward to buying their assets on the cheap when they go broke
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:37 PM
Jan 2020

taking that bullshit to the bank.

 

Scotch-Irish

(464 posts)
68. Rush Limpballs and Faux news has brainwashed a goodly portion
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 02:16 AM
Jan 2020

of the USA. Until those issues are dealt with, we will continue to be two different countries.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
80. Is number five
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:03 PM
Jan 2020

An exclamation on your part or an explanation on theirs?

Cause in my head it sounded like an exclamation! Which made your post kind of funny.

dlk

(11,569 posts)
82. They have been so indoctrinated with propaganda, they don't live in reality to escape deep despair
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:50 PM
Jan 2020

The hollowing out of the middle class from the massive redistribution of wealth to the top has many costs and this is one - there are millions of Americans who are beyond processing facts.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
83. Idiocracy was right.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:56 PM
Jan 2020

Mike Judge is a sage.

Rebecca and Gerald had one child.
Bubba had 23.
See what you get in five years.

Math is cruel.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
84. Is it possible some of them don't really think that
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:36 PM
Jan 2020

but are afraid to argue? Was there a ringleader sort of?

The lady with the daughter, OMG! What a cult! You'd let your kid be at risk over Dotard's incredible stupidity?

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
86. His base is insane. Anyone who thinks November is in the bag, is smoking really good shit.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:53 PM
Jan 2020

These crazy fucks haven't wavered one millimeter. In fact, I think they're entrenching.

japple

(9,833 posts)
87. Sounds an awful lot like 2003 to me. Small town Amurica. GWB Cheney Rumsfeldt
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:58 PM
Jan 2020

Colin Powell, Condaleza Rice were fanning the flames of war in Iraq.

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