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Barron must be 6' 8": (Original Post) Kingofalldems Jan 2020 OP
Barron actually does seem to be about 6'3" . nt tblue37 Jan 2020 #1
Tall, mindem Jan 2020 #5
He seems to have an odd gait . . . Haggis for Breakfast Jan 2020 #8
It seems like he's limping a bit--maybe a slight injury from playing soccer. nt tblue37 Jan 2020 #9
I don't think his brain is synced up with his new body yet, JenniferJuniper Jan 2020 #27
My boys had trouble as their feet grew very fast during a growth spurted lunatica Jan 2020 #49
It's a fact that growth spurts cause pain in the bones. lunatica Jan 2020 #50
Limping on his left leg Drahthaardogs Jan 2020 #14
Maybe she hooked up with James Comey back in the day? dewsgirl Jan 2020 #2
She is tall for a female. Blue_true Jan 2020 #21
Trump isn't 6' 2 or 6' 3, except in his dreams -- pnwmom Jan 2020 #3
He looked like a midget beside the Governor of California, who calls himself 6'3"". Blue_true Jan 2020 #23
Donny next to Gavin Newsom NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #58
Trump was standing on the freshly raked forest floor. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #59
He's yuge. marble falls Jan 2020 #4
you just know it chaps Trump's hide that Barron towers over him Skittles Jan 2020 #6
How tall is the little missus? As a model she must have records. nolabear Jan 2020 #7
She seems to be a tall woman. My guess 5'10"-5'11". nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #25
Yeah she is officially 5' 11". Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #53
5'11" is tall for any woman. nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #63
But she's always wearing very high heels so it's hard to say. Nt spooky3 Jan 2020 #39
Add another four to six inches for the spiked heels. lunatica Jan 2020 #51
His mother will tell him who his father is one day randr Jan 2020 #10
His mom is tall. Plus he looks more like Trump than Don Jr does. nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #26
He's got his dad's MontanaMama Jan 2020 #57
I don't that any of them escapes as long as Trump is around. Blue_true Jan 2020 #62
Got carried away with the HGH harumph Jan 2020 #11
He's maybe an inch taller than Malaria who claims to be 5-11 Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #12
I'm 5'10 and I met Trump 25 years ago Polybius Jan 2020 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author kimbutgar Jan 2020 #13
I assume you have no teenagers. former9thward Jan 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author kimbutgar Jan 2020 #17
Girls are conditioned to smile more than boys. pnwmom Jan 2020 #32
You had a teenage boy who never frowned? former9thward Jan 2020 #45
I'm on the spectrum. meadowlander Jan 2020 #18
What is being in the spectrum like for you? Blue_true Jan 2020 #28
Autism and dyslexia are completely different, pnwmom Jan 2020 #33
I watched my nephew misread a phone number that his grandmom handed him. Blue_true Jan 2020 #35
Yes, that's the kind of mistake a person with dyslexia might make. pnwmom Jan 2020 #37
I read once that David Bois, the super-lawyer is dyslectic. Blue_true Jan 2020 #38
I have a relative who needed extra support all the way through high school pnwmom Jan 2020 #41
It can be very different depending on which aspects of the spectrum are creating challenges for you. meadowlander Jan 2020 #36
Omg Bluesaph Jan 2020 #46
... progressoid Jan 2020 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author kimbutgar Jan 2020 #40
If your opinion is "I can tell he's autistic because he looks miserable in photos" meadowlander Jan 2020 #42
He could have growing pains, He's sprouting up fast. nt chowder66 Jan 2020 #16
Trump seems to not even acknowledge his son walking right beside him. Marie Marie Jan 2020 #19
As the son of a narcissistic father I have nothing but Golden Raisin Jan 2020 #43
Me too, it is a horrible existence. redstatebluegirl Jan 2020 #55
He put his arm around Barron Raine Jan 2020 #47
Ok missed that. Thanks, I'll take that correction and apologize for my assumption. Marie Marie Jan 2020 #48
Trump only does things he knows make him look good lunatica Jan 2020 #52
Height waveiscoming Jan 2020 #22
And tRump doesnt like him because he is taller. Joe941 Jan 2020 #67
I have a great-grandson who has shot up in just a few months like Barron. Frustratedlady Jan 2020 #24
He is NOT. OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #29
LOL! lunatica Jan 2020 #54
Obama got him beat waveiscoming Jan 2020 #30
I wonder who picks out his clothes. nt Ilsa Jan 2020 #31
Dunno, but Melanie used to rub caviar on young Barron "from head to toe" every night . . Maru Kitteh Jan 2020 #56
That's creepy sounding, as in, Ilsa Jan 2020 #65
Who the feck cares about that nimrod fecking family arthritisR_US Jan 2020 #44
Barron pamdb Jan 2020 #60
Looks like he could play some basketball. Kingofalldems Jan 2020 #61
poor kid lanlady Jan 2020 #64
I'm sure he already has multiple offers... Still In Wisconsin Jan 2020 #66

JenniferJuniper

(4,512 posts)
27. I don't think his brain is synced up with his new body yet,
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 12:02 AM
Jan 2020

he's grown an awful lot in the past couple of years.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
49. My boys had trouble as their feet grew very fast during a growth spurted
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:47 PM
Jan 2020

They would trip going up the stairs.

Plus their bones, especially their shins actually hurt from the growth stress.

It was scary! I would cook double the amount of food which they always finished and before they left the table they would ask me if they could make themselves a sandwich. I actually worried that I wasn’t giving them enough nutrition no matter how much I cooked.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
50. It's a fact that growth spurts cause pain in the bones.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:50 PM
Jan 2020

Bones have to work overtime to create the calcium and the nerves, capillaries, and marrow cells and it stresses them and causes pain.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. She is tall for a female.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:54 PM
Jan 2020

Trump lies about his heights, but it is safe to say that he is taller than average by a number of inches. A tall woman and a tallish man likely will produce a tall child.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
23. He looked like a midget beside the Governor of California, who calls himself 6'3"".
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:56 PM
Jan 2020

In fact, Trump was close to former Governor Jerry Brown in height.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
59. Trump was standing on the freshly raked forest floor.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:41 PM
Jan 2020

Newsom was standing on the typical California forest floor which is covered with debris.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
62. I don't that any of them escapes as long as Trump is around.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:40 PM
Jan 2020

He seems to have that corrosive effect. The kid is lucky if Trump is ignoring him, maybe he can semi-escape, like Trump's youngest daughter.

Polybius

(15,437 posts)
20. I'm 5'10 and I met Trump 25 years ago
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:50 PM
Jan 2020

He was definitely a bit taller than me, probably 6'1 or 6'2. I don't doubt that he has shrunk with age however.

Response to Kingofalldems (Original post)

Response to former9thward (Reply #15)

meadowlander

(4,399 posts)
18. I'm on the spectrum.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:29 PM
Jan 2020

If only I knew ahead of time that you could diagnose people based on still photos and ten second news clips of them standing behind people on the basis of how “miserable and expressionless” they look. Could have saved me four days of testing with an actual medical professional...

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. What is being in the spectrum like for you?
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 12:03 AM
Jan 2020

I have a nephew who either is mildly autistic or dyslectic, I really can't tell which because I have no training in those areas, but I can tell that something is different from interacting with him.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
33. Autism and dyslexia are completely different,
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 12:12 AM
Jan 2020

but someone can have both.

Dyslexia causes difficulties specific to reading.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
35. I watched my nephew misread a phone number that his grandmom handed him.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 12:18 AM
Jan 2020

So would that be more dyslectic?

The reason why I noticed was that he seemed to have taken so long (to me) to do a task that seemed simple.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
37. Yes, that's the kind of mistake a person with dyslexia might make.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 12:54 AM
Jan 2020

Dyslexics have more trouble reading than someone with their intelligence would usually have.

Of course, I don't know how bad the grandma's handwriting was!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
38. I read once that David Bois, the super-lawyer is dyslectic.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 12:59 AM
Jan 2020

So there is hope, though schools seem ill prepared to deal with such kids.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
41. I have a relative who needed extra support all the way through high school
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 01:35 AM
Jan 2020

for his dyslexia, but his other skills were very high -- and by college his reading and writing skills were fine.

He ended up with an MBA and is doing very well.

meadowlander

(4,399 posts)
36. It can be very different depending on which aspects of the spectrum are creating challenges for you.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 12:43 AM
Jan 2020

So slightly hesitant for anything I say to be extrapolated to your nephew.

But basically there are four dimensions:

- Challenges with social interactions and, particularly, processing social cues and other information
- Different use of language (often taking things literally, using inappropriate language for the situation - often too formal)
- Sensory processing differences
- Circumscribed but often very intense interests.

Some people also have executive functioning difficulties (planning, decision making, etc.)

People can be very far along the spectrum on some dimensions but not very far on others (if you imagine it like a spider diagram) and they will present very differently and have very different experiences. Also, many women "mask" their symptoms consciously or unconsciously which is why they often get later diagnoses. For example, I wasn't diagnosed until I was 43.

I got a diagnosis because I was absolutely exhausted all the time and couldn't find an explanation. Like "can't get out of bed for days at a time just staring at the walls" exhausted. My GP said "stress" but I didn't *feel* stressed. Alexithymia (or the inability to identify and express your own emotions) is very common with autism. Also sensory processing overload can cause people on the spectrum to meltdown (essentially throw a tantrum) or shutdown (my experience of exhaustion and, occasionally, being unable to speak - selective mutism).

When I started thinking about what had changed with my work environment, I realised that it was much noisier and busier than it had been the year before. Twice as many people crammed into the same space. I had headphones in all day every day to block out the noise and would frequently go in to breakout rooms so that I could concentrate. Vibrations of people walking on the floor behind me stressed me out, glare from the windows stressed me out. Someone dropping a book accidentally made me want to scream at them and kick the walls.

Then I saw some videos on YouTube of people talking about their experience on the spectrum (Sarah Hendrickx is a great place to start) and I realised that that was my experience exactly.

I have basically no social motivation. I remember being 8 and learning about solitary confinement in school and thinking "why is that a punishment? It sounds fabulous". This is different to some people on the spectrum who have social motivation but struggle with understanding social cues. It's hard for me to judge where to butt into a conversation. Usually I just don't say anything but some people talk your ear off. It's hard for me to read facial expressions. It's like a kind of blindness. One time someone was having a heart attack and lying on the floor and I just walked past him thinking "how rude of him not to move his legs out of the way." Like I literally couldn't read from his face that he was in that much pain.

I'm not very impaired in use of language but do work with legal documents in my job and have noticed that I often take a more literal/by the book interpretation than some of my colleagues.

I have noise and temperature sensory issues and issues with people walking too close to me, particularly if they are talking and I can't drown the conversation out. I don't really like strangers touching me and can't stand to have restrictive clothes around my neck or wrists. Some people have food sensory issues - they'll gag if they have to eat certain food textures, for example.

I don't have super limited or specific interests but I do get *really*, *really* intensely absorbed in some things. Like if I'm working on a project, I'll often forget to eat or sleep until it's done and anything that distracts me seriously pisses me off.

Anyway, don't know if any of that is really helpful or not. There's a lot of great resources on the Interwebs if you want to look into it more. For example:

https://www.autism.org.uk/about/what-is/asperger.aspx

Response to meadowlander (Reply #18)

meadowlander

(4,399 posts)
42. If your opinion is "I can tell he's autistic because he looks miserable in photos"
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 02:36 AM
Jan 2020

then I suspect you are unqualified to make that judgment, regardless of whether you personally know someone with autism or not.

You can't diagnose autism based on behaviour or appearance. You have to understand the reason for the behaviour or what is going on internally.

For example, people with autism often struggle to understand where to jump into a conversation and how to get out of it. In some people this leads to never speaking at all and in some people it leads to blathering on non-stop for hours. Both of those opposite behaviours are symptoms of the same underlying condition.

You can look at someone who never speaks and maybe they are autistic and maybe they are just shy. The person who never stops talking might be autistic but maybe they're just chatty or *really* into naval flags for some reason. Maybe Barron is autistic and maybe he just hates being in the same room with his dad.

The point is you can't tell without talking to the person about their internal experiences.

I've been passing as neurotypical for 44 years. When I tell people the first reaction I always get is "you don't look autistic". You actually really can't tell from appearance and behaviour.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
19. Trump seems to not even acknowledge his son walking right beside him.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:48 PM
Jan 2020

He turns his head away from him and stays focused on Kidney Queen. He never even looks in his direction. That poor child will grow up without a real father figure.

Golden Raisin

(4,609 posts)
43. As the son of a narcissistic father I have nothing but
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 04:06 AM
Jan 2020

support for Barron. It can be hellish. Sometimes less contact might even be preferable.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
55. Me too, it is a horrible existence.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:59 PM
Jan 2020

Barron is off limits for any negative comments from me. He didn't ask for this.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
52. Trump only does things he knows make him look good
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:57 PM
Jan 2020

He might be fond of his son, but more likely he’s just exploiting the moment. I was married to a Narcissist. That’s the way they are. Their children are there to make them look good.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
24. I have a great-grandson who has shot up in just a few months like Barron.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:57 PM
Jan 2020

Every time I saw him, he was 2" taller. He finally passed his mom and dad, dwarfed his sister. It's amazing to watch.

BT has that awkward. gangly, teenage walk. He'll get it all together before long. Going to be a good looking boy.

He's probably passed the old man in IQ, as well.

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
56. Dunno, but Melanie used to rub caviar on young Barron "from head to toe" every night . .
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:07 PM
Jan 2020
https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/04/melania-trump-my-son-7-is-not-a-sweatpants-child/

Melania Trump is famous for her glamorous lifestyle, and she's passed down her luxurious predilections to her son Barron, 7.

"He's not a sweatpants child," says Trump, 42, of her only child with her husband of eight years, Donald Trump, 66. "He doesn't mind putting on [a suit]-but not every day- and he likes to dress up in a tie sometimes like Daddy."

Trump tells ABC News that in addition to dressing her son nicely, she makes sure that he takes care of his skin, slathering him in her eponymous Caviar Complex C6 moisturizer after his nightly bath.

"It smells very, very fresh," says the businesswoman, who launched the skincare line this week at Lord & Taylor. "I put it on him from head to toe. He likes it!"

pamdb

(1,332 posts)
60. Barron
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:54 PM
Jan 2020

At the most 6'5". I have brother in law who is 6'8" and he's a lot taller than Barron.
Love that "kid who must not be named" He certainly has gotten taller. Poor kid.

lanlady

(7,134 posts)
64. poor kid
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:49 PM
Jan 2020

Always morose, like the mother. And the father pays him no attention at all. It can't be much fun for a young lad to spend his all vacations languishing at a golf club.

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