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captain queeg

(10,208 posts)
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:58 PM Jan 2020

Some will be offended but I hope oil prices spike and cause widespread economic anxiety

Maybe that will get the attention of the kool aid drinking Trumpsters. It seems they are immune from thinking outside their little bubbles. I’m not hoping for a major recession, but Americans love their gas guzzling lifestyle and it wouldn’t hurt for some of them to realize the idiot’s actions have real consequences.

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Some will be offended but I hope oil prices spike and cause widespread economic anxiety (Original Post) captain queeg Jan 2020 OP
Oil is going to spike, but it won't stop the trmpsters still_one Jan 2020 #1
The initial spikes won't hurt that much duforsure Jan 2020 #31
Can you tell me when the spike is going to happen? I'd like to make plans. onenote Jan 2020 #37
Oil hit 70 dollars a barrel today. Whether it stays there or not depends on what happens. Right still_one Jan 2020 #42
prices are not up a penny here dweller Jan 2020 #2
Prices are actually down here I am. bearsfootball516 Jan 2020 #3
Prices are down where I am too. cwydro Jan 2020 #4
The place across from the Dunkin Donuts NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #21
IMO, Republicans will fight to keep a lid on gas prices until..... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #5
This event will not hurt trump because it will likely blow over in a few days. Hoyt Jan 2020 #6
If it spikes... regnaD kciN Jan 2020 #7
No nini Jan 2020 #8
I don't. cwydro Jan 2020 #9
Then we get "drill baby drill" all over again. RandySF Jan 2020 #10
US production of shale oil Ferryboat Jan 2020 #11
+1, Putin hates US shale oil ... No wonder he wants Iran oil out of the mix uponit7771 Jan 2020 #20
Nice of you Fullduplexxx Jan 2020 #12
You want to pay my heating bills at $5 a gallon? jpak Jan 2020 #13
Those of us in the cold region of the country using oil heat thank you Blue_Adept Jan 2020 #14
No shit. cwydro Jan 2020 #15
Unbrillant! ProfessorGAC Jan 2020 #16
But it'll get the trumps to realize something something something. Blue_Adept Jan 2020 #17
Yeah, another poster was wishing for gas to go to 10 bucks a gallon. cwydro Jan 2020 #36
WTF??? dware Jan 2020 #18
I guess repubs are not the only ones lacking empathy. Tipperary Jan 2020 #25
Oil won't be enough. You'd need a full blown recession OliverQ Jan 2020 #19
Even then they'd just say it was a democrat's fault or Obama's somehow. Blue_Adept Jan 2020 #23
Gasoline jumped $.22 a gallon over the weekend. sinkingfeeling Jan 2020 #22
There would be deaths, not just anxiety. Lars39 Jan 2020 #24
I sure don't Raine Jan 2020 #26
Week is not over, but looks like you aren't getting your spike at the moment. Hoyt Jan 2020 #27
MAGATs will just blame environmentalists DBoon Jan 2020 #28
Modern America Was Built on Fear and Cheap Oil. Ron Green Jan 2020 #29
Thanks for reminding me CountAllVotes Jan 2020 #30
Thanks again!! CountAllVotes Jan 2020 #33
Even before this, gas is already .30/gallon more than in January 2017 wishstar Jan 2020 #32
Prices vary by region onenote Jan 2020 #39
I hope it increases demand for electric vehicles. Liberal In Texas Jan 2020 #34
It's not going to bother Dumpsters..cost of doing buisness....it would hurt the poor AncientGeezer Jan 2020 #35
Gas prices don't have nearly the impact that the OP thinks onenote Jan 2020 #38
Nothing will change their minds. Initech Jan 2020 #40
Wouldn't bother me. ooky Jan 2020 #41

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
31. The initial spikes won't hurt that much
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 12:54 PM
Jan 2020

But when tankers are blocked and attacked , or worse it'll get their attention as everything is increased , a lot.

still_one

(92,224 posts)
42. Oil hit 70 dollars a barrel today. Whether it stays there or not depends on what happens. Right
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:42 PM
Jan 2020

Now the stock market doesn’t think the Mideast situation is anything to be concerned about

Then again, for the last two years the market essentially wrote off the trade war

I think the reason for the disconnect is due to the index funds

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
3. Prices are actually down here I am.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:04 PM
Jan 2020

I'm not sure how, considering gas prices go up any time someone sneezes in the Middle East.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
21. The place across from the Dunkin Donuts
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:41 AM
Jan 2020

where I pass on my way to work every day has gone up 13 cents/gallon in the past week.

However, I remember from the early 90s, when Iraq invaded Kuwait, my gas price went up 20 cents/gallon the very next day.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
5. IMO, Republicans will fight to keep a lid on gas prices until.....
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:37 PM
Jan 2020

Trump makes his major moves, if he's not stopped. People like W, Chaney and Koch will see to it, at least until the lid blows.

Good perspectives here:

Oil prices continue to rise, U.S. stock futures retreat as Mideast tensions remain high
By Mike Murphy
Published: Jan 5, 2020 9:17 p.m. ET

Link: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/oil-prices-continue-to-rise-us-stock-futures-retreat-as-mideast-tensions-remain-high-2020-01-05?mod=home-page

(snips)

Oil prices continued to rise in late Sunday trading, continuing their surge in the wake of last week’s killing of Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani in a U.S. drone strike, which ratcheted up Middle East tensions.

West Texas Intermediate crude for February delivery CLG20, +2.25% was last up about 2% late Sunday, while the global benchmark, March Brent crude BRNH20, +2.65% , inched past the $70-a-barrel mark after the U.S. Defense Department warned over the weekend that there was a “heightened risk” of retaliatory Iranian attacks against Saudi oil facilities.
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“We should all be bracing for a ferocious response,” Helima Croft, chief commodities strategist for RBC Capital Markets, warned last week. “The stage is set for a retaliatory spiral that could keep markets on edge well into 2020.”

U.S. stocks slid Friday, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average DJIA, -0.81% posting its worst day in four weeks. Futures trading late Sunday indicated further losses when trading begins Monday, with Dow futures YM00, -0.42% down more than 100 points. S&P 500 futures ES00, -0.42% and Nasdaq futures NQ00, -0.47% also fell.
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“But there is no denying the enormity of long-term geopolitical repercussions of the latest events, and even more so when considering the possible knock-on destabilizing consequences which may impact Iraq’s fragile state,” Innes wrote. “Indeed, this is a considerable tail risk for oil prices given Iraq’s status as OPEC #2 producer.

Some economic experts were already saying the stage is set for another huge global recession well before these recent events.

KY...........
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. This event will not hurt trump because it will likely blow over in a few days.
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:50 PM
Jan 2020

We need to get back to Impeachment and the election.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
7. If it spikes...
Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:57 PM
Jan 2020

...that will just give more impetus for people to take up a Trumpian “we’re being strangled, so send in the troops, kick those Ay-rab* butts, and take OUR oil” narrative.

*Iranians aren’t Arabs, but that will be lost on them.

Ferryboat

(922 posts)
11. US production of shale oil
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 03:45 AM
Jan 2020

Has reshaped the oil industry. In the past ANY sign of instability in the middle east sent prices way up.

We depended on the Saudis to keep OPEC members in line. Mining the straits, drone strikes none of these had any effect on prices in the past year. Minor increases yes but nothing like the 80's or 90's.

I payed $2.70 gal yesterday. Average is $3.15.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
14. Those of us in the cold region of the country using oil heat thank you
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:00 AM
Jan 2020

i've been through this before in 2003-7 with the oil spikes.

Offended is not the word I use in regards to this.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
16. Unbrillant!
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:04 AM
Jan 2020

You do realize that price spikes to an inelastic commodity like fuel, causes the most harm to those in the worst financial shape? Right?
Perhaps not.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
17. But it'll get the trumps to realize something something something.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:10 AM
Jan 2020

What's a few dead elderly folks who can't afford heat, right?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
36. Yeah, another poster was wishing for gas to go to 10 bucks a gallon.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 04:11 PM
Jan 2020

Guess he doesn’t care that this hurts more than just Republicans, nor does he seem to consider that this kind of thing gives the dotard reason to start drilling in wildlife ares.

Disheartening to see this kind of thing here.

dware

(12,399 posts)
18. WTF???
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:30 AM
Jan 2020

Why would you hope for this?
The greatest impact would be on the people who can least afford it, is that what you want?

Maybe you didn't think this through carefully.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
25. I guess repubs are not the only ones lacking empathy.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jan 2020

This is not the first such post I have seen like this. Smh.

CountAllVotes

(20,876 posts)
30. Thanks for reminding me
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 12:53 PM
Jan 2020

I need to call LHEAP today for heating assistance.

It sucks having to call like its dialing for dollars, but you must do what you have to do.

Lets hope I get through quickly!

Thanks for the reminder from just one more near broke AmeriCAN!!!





wishstar

(5,270 posts)
32. Even before this, gas is already .30/gallon more than in January 2017
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 01:30 PM
Jan 2020

Gas so far is unchanged since last Friday in my area. But it went up .30/gallon shortly after Trump took office, blamed on fire at Colonial pipeline and then other things as I recall and gas has never come back down to where it was back then. But all the Trumpers I know have never complained once and in fact will tell you that gas is less, so I doubt they'll blame him this year.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
39. Prices vary by region
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 04:44 PM
Jan 2020

You may have seen a spike of .30 shortly after Trump took office and maybe gas hasn't come back down to where it was before that, but on a national basis, the price of regular gas when Trump took office was around $2.30 a gallon. It stayed at around that level for several months before beginning a relatively slow ascent, peaking at around $2.94 in June 2018. After that it dropped again, bottoming out at $2.24/gallon in January 2019. Over the past year, it fluctuated, rising to almost $2.90 in May but dropping back into the $2.50-$2.55 range by the end of the year.

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
35. It's not going to bother Dumpsters..cost of doing buisness....it would hurt the poor
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 02:41 PM
Jan 2020

Yeah.... I'm not going with your "hope"

onenote

(42,714 posts)
38. Gas prices don't have nearly the impact that the OP thinks
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 04:28 PM
Jan 2020

In the time Obama took office in 2009 until election day, the price of gas climbed from just under $2/gallon to around $3.75 on election day (down somewhat from a peak of nearly $3.90/gallon earlier that year. Yet Obama was reelected and the economy kept improving. Indeed, it wasn't until late 2014 that the price of gas finally broke, dropping from around $3.35/gallon in the third quarter to under $2.30 in the fourth quarter.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
40. Nothing will change their minds.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 04:50 PM
Jan 2020

They won't give a shit about gas prices no matter how high they can get. They'll keep watching Fox News and listening to AM hate radio, and watching assholes like Hannity, Limbaugh and Pirro spin it into that it's always the other guy's fault. Now it's even worse because everyone has their own channel now and they can say whatever they want and there's no one to fact check them. :

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