And ... if you were in charge of Iran .. and the US was threatening for years (remember John McCain singing 'bomb bomb Iran') .. wouldn't you decide you really needed nuclear weapons to prevent attacks?

Low, low bar.

Threaten Trump's real estate holdings and who is going to want to live there?

Office and apartment values will plummet and Trump properties will be in foreclosure in no time.

altho putting them in a trump atrocity would be cruel

Remember that shortly after the Obamas moved into the White House, some of the more scurrilous right wing rags started claiming that the place had become infested with bed bugs?

from the unpredictable Donald Trump?

is insurance fraud. Probably the only way these properties will make any money.
All while allowing him to play the victim.

Cheers
Drifter

Would Iranian attacks be considered "war"?

I would think so. Wouldn't seem fair for anyone else's insurance to go up thanks to the actions of one person.

Tell you one thing - I'd be very reluctant to visit any Trump property anywhere right now.

I can see lawsuits for that!

We're I a resident or commercial interest I'd be bailing out of that target zone asap. His next insurance rate hike should make things unsustainable for his company or residents alike I'm guessing, but then ... what do I know?

Cover damage caused by acts of war "declared or undeclared". So I'm guessing he's not going to be able to collect.

And claimed that Iranians were celebrating across the river.

particularly in NYC and DC but I don't think there's any coverage for "Acts of War". So of course he would refer to it as a terrorist attack. If so, you could argue that he committed the first act of terrorism in this case. I think he's screwed in this predicament.

the only way Trump used to make money.

How do you figure that tweet is "historic"? I'm genuinely puzzled here.

... seeing Iran has intimated his properties are on a hit list then it breaks him, not Americans and lets the rest of America know its nothing person.

Master stroke, will go down in the books

that will backfire on them

so will killing any American civilians in other countries

so it's either an empty threat or a potentially bad move

the AC on in winter or fucking with it in summer. Delivering a box of bed bugs could have an interesting effect.

You've got an entire nation that wants this guy to suffer, (besides, of course the US)

Are we equipped to handle that kind of attack?

We’re loaded up on 20th-century war toys. But all the “king’s” horses and all the “king’s” men won’t be able to handle rogue attacks by a few strategic keystrokes.

... him to warn people no?

This is a reason why US dignitaries have to divest themselves of business's

As a general rule, people are not liable for intentional torts even when they are committed by their employees over whom they presumably have some control. Let alone for criminal activity, or acts of war - by people farther removed from their control than employees are.

for now is a list of those rump properties NOT covered by insurance so rump won't get reimbursed for damages (but I imagine most insurance policies have a clause in them that acts of war, terror aren't covered?).

Forever. Every golf course, condo building, Kushner's properties, too.

We are all responsible.

could fight US taxpayers having to cover any loss as Trump is complicit in whatever happens due to his negligence. Rational people would recognize that, if you assassinate another country's general without justifiable cause (no imminent danger) could result in the other country being pissed off enough to respond.

Decades ago, Iran overthrew the Shah and installed a democratically elected government that wanted to nationalize their oil fields because - they were their oil fields. The Western countries and their oil companies couldn't allow that and they overthrew the government and reinstalled the Shah. Years later, we all know how well that turned out.

And people wonder why Iran thinks that they need to develop nuclear capability to protect themselves.

... to keep his roach motels empty is hard hitting, wise and calculated.

Also lets Americans know we're not dealing with an irrational adversary

... doesn't then someone is going to get paid if his roach motels get hit.

People say shit. Doesn't make shit real.

It's not hard.

What a concept.

Just making the threat will cut business at those properties drastically.

Of course, Trump respond to the downturn by forcing government agencies to hold meetings at those properties. I wouldn't put that past him.

... mentioned in attacks by Iran

I’m not being critical or snarky. Can he force them?

But I completely agree with your statement that no one, even staff will want to be in any of his properties. Especially if they actually hit one or even if they put bomb craters into his golf courses.

A few cheap drones could do some damage. Just enough so no one will go near them. Insurance wouldn’t likely cover the loss in revenue.

He seems to assume he has the authority to treat the Civil Service as his personal property, not a semi-independent organization. If people are sufficiently cowed and keep following his orders, then that becomes the new normal.

Your point of gov meetings is more likely than ever now.

Even if they never strike, there is always the threat and I would never want to live with that kind of anxiety. Besides, knowing Trump, I am sure most of his properties are overpriced, poorly managed, tacky shitholes and the prestige of his brand is tanking. I would get out while I could still manage to cut my losses.

They've turned #TraitorTrump into the world's 21st century Hitler.

Iran is just being smart by exposing that. I agree that they are playing this just right. Now they don't even have to make good on the threat to bring the orange menace's empire down. Just sit back and watch appropriately cautious people choose to stay elsewhere.

Wanna make it personal? Okay, we can do that. Almost have to admire them but we'll have to see how this all plays out. 1 innocent civilian death and they loose any possible goodwill generated and it's 'Murica rat ar wron'

Given the caps and tags, I assumed something more significant had happened than a tweet that has already been informatively been covered in other GD threads.

... and Iran wins by putting Trump on hot street is a master stroke

who often disagree on details?

that that they had already hit him. But then I read the article and I saw that it's only a threat. They haven't really hit him at all. It should read that Iran threatens to hit back hard.

Then wouldn't it hurt them also?

And the headline on this thread is misleading, totally.

databanks and get info on tRump.

Could it be more alarmist? And it's already been posted. No need to promote that trash paper on here.

The Sun makes The Enquirer read like the Washington Post

That was invented by a member of DU.

owned propaganda.

Hence why their are such a massive security risk.

So the people in this thread blaming Murdoch for the headline are blaming the wrong messenger.

Especially in such fragile and tense times, it is really not helpful to announce that the sky has already fallen - when there's only a weather report that we might be in for some rough weather.

Will they start jumping ship. I sure as hell would.

trump: "What are you going to do, shoot us all?"

Iran: "No ace, just you..."

Do you know how much money the Trump organization is going to lose just from the threat? I'm actually thinking there's going to be a shit-ton of people cancelling stays, memberships, reservations, etc.

They don't have to actually DO anything, people are going to stay away in droves just from the threat.

Not a shot fired or a missile launched.

December 26, 2019 - 08:00 PM EST
Germans think Trump is more dangerous to world peace than Kim Jong Un and Putin: survey
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/475998-germans-think-trump-is-more-dangerous-to-world-peace-than-kim?amp

between Trump and the rest of us. This action targets the person who did the deed, not us innocent bystanders.

And, as noted in another post, Iran doesn't even have to do anything. Just the threat will keep some number of people from patronizing Trump properties. Not only will that hurt Trump, but Jr, Eric, Ivanka and Jared will lose income, too.

Iran are going to basically make anything he owns toxic and not safe to even walk into.

them empty and expose them, I would approve of that.

Non violent and all.

tight with Russia? I would appreciate any feedback.

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (CNN)Iran may well have calculated that it's better off with a Democrat in the White House and not a Republican like President Donald Trump.

Logically -- and Iran's leaders are intensely pragmatic in that far-sighted way -- Tehran will likely calibrate its vowed "harsh revenge" response to the killing of Qasem Soleimani in a bid to cost Trump re-election.
Part of that calculation is likely to have Iran focus on targets inside the United States as well as in the Middle East, not just to embarrass Trump but to limit regional escalation.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/04/middleeast/trump-iran-revenge-analysis-intl/index.html

Wouldn’t it just be the most wonderful revenge if this were true....dotard having to live with the fact that even our enemies would rather have continued to deal with a brown skinned president than him!!

Don't expect to see Donald Jr., Eric or Jared volunteer for the armed forces to defend what it literally their family's possessions.

His vacancy rate will skyrocket, he'll risk defaulting on his loans, and he WILL lose properties from attacks. Now we'll see the full stupidity of Trump not divesting in his businesses before inauguration. This was going to happen sooner or later. It's in Trump's nature to piss people off, and some of those people will want retribution. This time around, it's an entire nation, Iran. The odds of Trump's businesses surviving Iran's retaliation are dwindling. One devastating attack will bring it all crashing down. Congress will have to cut off military funds to keep Trump restrained. He'll go ape shit. This is going to be a very busy 2020.

.. liability to go along with it.

To many, Solemani was like a son, a brother, a cousin, a very close relative. If I were any of these relationships to #impotus, especially ones with no Secret Service protection I would be quite frightened. If I were living in even a #TrumpTraitor branded building I would be quite frightened. The big tough wannabe DICKtator really stepped in it this time. These folks have a LONG memory and maybe not today, this month, this year but sometime there will be very personal hell to pay. Not troops, not buildings not monetary stuff but personal.

And, you can bet that those within Irans banking systems are digging for the financial dirt on tRUMP Org. as well.

Who will want to stay in a property that may be attacked? Trump revenues have already been falling on most of the family's properties. He's destroyed his own shabby brand. Now this.

Very clever of the Iranians. They don't have to fire a shot, just put the pain where it belongs and where Trump will feel it the most--in his wallet.

during their term of office, especially those openly carrying his/her name.

A president that leans heavily toward using the stick part of sticks and carrots should accept the potential for revenge and be prepared for that eventuality.

In this case, like many other norms and traditions, tRump does not care about those things and he will play the victim and somehow either politically or economically profit from these events.

KY...........

Fuck you, asshole. Pay for your own fucking security guards.

I hope for all our sakes this goes no further. Don't know that if possible with right wing christian and muslim religionists out for blood.

It seems Iran is threatening to attack civilian targets (they may be owned by Trump but they are still civilian targets occupied by non-combatants) and this is considered rational?

How can we condemn a threat to attack Iran's cultural site (rightly so as it would be a war ctime) while simultaneously supporting threats to attack US civilian targets?

... them then is Trump liable?

Trump has to tell his tennants that his properties are less safe now or ... hire his own guards to safe guard them no?

... said such in this OP.

Also, I explicitly say Trump has a responsibility to keep his roach infested trap houses empty now so no one gets hurt.

My question relates to what Red Don's responsibilities are in regards to the safety of his properties.

If someone asked him is his properties safe now that Iran has intimated they're on a list does he have the responsibility of saying those properties are safe?

thx in advance

... lose of any life.

Fuck him, he'll file an insurance claim anyway.

Attacks directed against civilians or civilian objects are unlawful.
https://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/default/files/publications/research/2018-12-10-proportionality-conduct-hostilities-incidental-harm-gillard-final.pdf#page24

Though this is kind of a fun way to tease Trump, this is as unlawful as the stuff he himself suggests. And contrary to his expressed beliefs, two wrongs does not make one right.

We would like to reserve the bridal suite, a huuuugggge magnum of champagne, and the Mother of All Bombs.

They have no problem throwing a gay guy off a 7 story building, stoning a child, honor killing a woman....but we are fans now??

... of states who do no matter who they are.

I'm a patriot of this country not a fan or cheerleader.