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Barbara Starr ✔ @barbarastarrcnn
Pentagon to begin sending 6 B-52s to Diego Garcia: US official. B-52s will be available for operations against Iran if ordered, the official said. But the deployment does not signal that operations have been ordered. #Iran #Solemani
3:21 PM - Jan 6, 2020
SWBTATTReg
(22,143 posts)idiot moved ahead in advance of being totally ready and struck earlier than planned (if planned earlier)...I doubt that this was planned in advance and rump did this whole thing just to get attention off his crap going on (tax return fraud, etc.).
marble falls
(57,106 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)As mentioned above the aircraft should have already been in position. Announcing the move of 6 aircraft is nothing more than saber rattling.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)B-1's and B-2's were already staged so months ago in the Mid East.
marble falls
(57,106 posts)from wikipedia ...
On 9 April 2016, an undisclosed number of B-52s arrived at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar as part of Operation Inherent Resolve, part of the Military intervention against ISIL. The B-52s took over heavy bombing after B-1 Lancers that had been conducting airstrikes rotated out of the region in January 2016.[230] In April 2016, B-52s arrived in Afghanistan to take part in the War in Afghanistan and began operations in July, proving its flexibility and precision carrying out close-air support missions.[231]
According to a statement by the U.S. military, an undisclosed number of B-52s participated in the U.S. strikes on pro-government forces in eastern Syria on 7 February 2018.[232]
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)via the Jane Military Site in the UK.
Locally,there are a hand full of Heavy lift Planes sitting,the last blurb was they are waiting Maintenance .
getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)They were shot down frequently in vietnam, and that was by primitive ground to air missiles.
Sure, they can launch cruise missiles, but so can a lot of other planes.
These are old heavy bombers that are easily shot down. The russians would have fun.
marble falls
(57,106 posts)as to the Nam,
With the escalating situation in Southeast Asia, 28 B-52Fs were fitted with external racks for 24× 750 lb (340 kg) bombs under project South Bay in June 1964; an additional 46 aircraft received similar modifications under project Sun Bath.[70] In March 1965, the United States commenced Operation Rolling Thunder. The first combat mission, Operation Arc Light, was flown by B-52Fs on 18 June 1965, when 30 bombers of the 9th and 441st Bombardment Squadrons struck a communist stronghold near the Bến Cát District in South Vietnam. The first wave of bombers arrived too early at a designated rendezvous point, and while maneuvering to maintain station, two B-52s collided, which resulted in the loss of both bombers and eight crewmen. The remaining bombers, minus one more that turned back due to mechanical problems, continued towards the target.[156] Twenty-seven Stratofortresses dropped on a one-mile by two-mile target box from between 19,000 and 22,000 feet, a little more than 50% of the bombs fell within the target zone.[157] The force returned to Andersen AFB except for one bomber with electrical problems that recovered to Clark AFB, the mission having lasted 13 hours. Post-strike assessment by teams of South Vietnamese troops with American advisors found evidence that the Viet Cong had departed from the area before the raid, and it was suspected that infiltration of the south's forces may have tipped off the north because of the South Vietnamese Army troops involved in the post-strike inspection.[158]
Against a blue sky with white clouds, a B-52F releases bombs over Vietnam.
B-52F dropping bombs on Vietnam
Beginning in late 1965, a number of B-52Ds underwent Big Belly modifications to increase bomb capacity for carpet bombings.[159] While the external payload remained at 24 of 500 lb (227 kg) or 750 lb (340 kg) bombs, the internal capacity increased from 27 to 84 for 500 lb bombs, or from 27 to 42 for 750 lb bombs.[160] The modification created enough capacity for a total of 60,000 lb (27,215 kg) using 108 bombs. Thus modified, B-52Ds could carry 22,000 lb (9,980 kg) more than B-52Fs.[161] Designed to replace B-52Fs, modified B-52Ds entered combat in April 1966 flying from Andersen Air Force Base, Guam. Each bombing mission lasted 10 to 12 hours and included an aerial refueling by KC-135 Stratotankers.[50] In spring 1967, B-52s began flying from U Tapao Airfield in Thailand so that refueling was not required.[160]
B-52s were employed during the Battle of Ia Drang in November 1965, notable as the aircraft's first use in a tactical support role.[162]
The B-52s were restricted to bombing suspected Communist bases in relatively uninhabited sections, because their potency approached that of a tactical nuclear weapon. A formation of six B-52s, dropping their bombs from 30,000 feet, could "take out"... almost everything within a "box" approximately five-eighths mile wide by two miles long [1 × 3.2 km]. Whenever Arc Light struck ... in the vicinity of Saigon, the city woke from the tremor..
Neil Sheehan, war correspondent, writing before the mass attacks on heavily populated cities including North Vietnam's capital.[163]
On 22 November 1972, a B-52D (55-0110) from U-Tapao was hit by a surface-to-air missile (SAM) while on a raid over Vinh. The crew was forced to abandon the damaged aircraft over Thailand. This was the first B-52 destroyed by hostile fire.[164]
The zenith of B-52 attacks in Vietnam was Operation Linebacker II (sometimes referred to as the Christmas Bombing), conducted from 18 to 29 December 1972, which consisted of waves of B-52s (mostly D models, but some Gs without jamming equipment and with a smaller bomb load). Over 12 days, B-52s flew 729 sorties[165] and dropped 15,237 tons of bombs on Hanoi, Haiphong, and other targets.[101][166] Originally 42 B-52s were committed to the war; however, numbers were frequently twice this figure.[167] During Operation Linebacker II, fifteen B-52s were shot down, five were heavily damaged (one crashed in Laos), and five suffered medium damage. A total of 25 crewmen were killed in these losses.[168] North Vietnam claimed 34 B-52s were shot down.[169]
During the war 31 B-52s were lost, including 10 shot down over North Vietnam.[170] Of the losses, 17 were shot down in combat operations, one was a write-off because of combat damage, 11 crashed by accidents, 1 decommissioned because of combat damage, and 1 burned at the airport. However, some of the "crashed in flight accidents" crashed due to missiles or anti-aircraft guns. When landing at an airfield in Thailand one B-52 was heavily damaged by SAM, rolled off the runway and was then blown up by mines installed around the airfield to protect against guerrillas; only one crewman survived. Subsequently, this B-52 was counted as a "crashed in flight accidents".[171][verification needed]
Air-to-air combat
marble falls
(57,106 posts)During the Vietnam War, B-52D tail gunners were credited with shooting down two MiG-21 "Fishbeds". On 18 December 1972 tail gunner Staff Sergeant Samuel O. Turner's B-52 had just completed a bomb run for Operation Linebacker II and was turning away, when a North Vietnamese Air Force MiG-21 approached.[172] The MiG and the B-52 locked onto each other. When the fighter drew within range, Turner fired his quad (four guns on one mounting) .50 caliber machine guns.[173] The MiG exploded aft of the bomber,[172] as confirmed by Master Sergeant Louis E. Le Blanc, the tail gunner in a nearby Stratofortress. Turner received a Silver Star for his actions.[174] His B-52, tail number 56-0676, is preserved on display with air-to-air kill markings at Fairchild AFB in Spokane, Washington.[172]
On 24 December 1972, during the same bombing campaign, the B-52 Diamond Lil was headed to bomb the Thái Nguyên railroad yards when tail gunner Airman First Class Albert E. Moore spotted a fast-approaching MiG-21.[175] Moore opened fire with his quad .50 caliber guns at 4,000 yd (3,700 m), and kept shooting until the fighter disappeared from his scope. Technical Sergeant Clarence W. Chute, a tail gunner aboard another Stratofortress, watched the MiG catch fire and fall away;[173] this was not confirmed by the VPAF.[176] Diamond Lil is preserved on display at the United States Air Force Academy in Colorado.[175] Moore was the last bomber gunner believed to have shot down an enemy aircraft with machine guns in aerial combat.[173]
However, the two B-52 tail gunner kills were not confirmed by VPAF, and they admitted to the loss of only three MiGs, all by F-4s.[176] Vietnamese sources have attributed a third air-to-air victory to a B-52, a MiG-21 shot down on 16 April 1972.[177] These victories make the B-52 the largest aircraft credited with air-to-air kills.[Note 5] The last Arc Light mission without fighter escort took place on 15 August 1973, as U.S. military action in Southeast Asia was wound down.[178]
LonePirate
(13,426 posts)Google says it has an average elevation of 4 feet above sea level.
marble falls
(57,106 posts)lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)Subs, destroyers and frigates can do the same job from a lot closer. Without being so vulnerable.
And they could be on target a hell of a lot quicker.
But then, Trump knows more than his generals.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)as mentioned above.
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)...
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)but, that is the logic if you prefer.