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babylonsister

(171,072 posts)
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:29 PM Jan 2020

In letter, U.S. military tells Iraq it will withdraw

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-security-withdrawal/in-letter-u-s-military-tells-iraq-it-will-withdraw-idUSKBN1Z520A?fbclid=IwAR3sYZTJIT3CtYTnGbg78Bw2sOLNzMFWOTVmZAcPRb3-3q3yf7_zB5_GLGs

January 6, 2020 / 3:22 PM / Updated 39 minutes ago
In letter, U.S. military tells Iraq it will withdraw
Ahmed Aboulenein
2 Min Read


BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The United States military wrote to Iraq on Monday saying it would pull out of the country and would be repositioning forces over the next few days and weeks, a letter seen by Reuters showed.

It was not immediately clear if all roughly 5,000 U.S. troops would leave Iraq.

Several helicopters could be heard flying over Baghdad on Monday night. It was not immediately clear if this was a related development. The letter said coalition forces would be using helicopters to evacuate.

“Sir, in deference to the sovereignty of the Republic of Iraq, and as requested by the Iraqi Parliament and the Prime Minister, CJTF-OIR will be repositioning forces over the course of the coming days and weeks to prepare for onward movement,” read the letter.


It was signed by United States Marine Corps Brigadier General William H. Seely III, commanding general of Task Force Iraq, the U.S.-led military coalition against Islamic State

The authenticity of the letter, which was addressed to the Iraqi defense ministry’s Combined Joint Operations Baghdad, was confirmed to Reuters independently by an Iraqi military source.

“We respect your sovereign decision to order our departure,” it said.

In Washington, a Pentagon spokesman said he could not immediately confirm its authenticity.

The letter said: “During this time, there will be an increase in helicopter travel in and around the International Zone (IZ) of Baghdad.”

The International Zone is the formal name of Baghdad’s heavily fortified Green Zone which houses government buildings and foreign missions.
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In letter, U.S. military tells Iraq it will withdraw (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2020 OP
The DoD is saying it's a draft sent by mistake... *after* confirming its authenticity Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #1
Holy shit, what a bunch of fuck wits! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2020 #3
What in the world?! How incompetent! herding cats Jan 2020 #5
That's what it sounds like. Not a clue. nt babylonsister Jan 2020 #10
What's more astonishing is that the letter was sent to the Iraqis to begin with. Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #12
Clearly Trump intervened. Pentagon is no longer under rational control. triron Jan 2020 #13
Since it appears the whole incident, from start to finish, was super-clusterfucky... Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #17
Wow... ck4829 Jan 2020 #25
Echos of the fall of Saigon. kysrsoze Jan 2020 #2
You guys think this will boost Trump's approval? OliverQ Jan 2020 #4
I don't know or care what it does to his approval. former9thward Jan 2020 #6
Depends on the consequences. OliverQ Jan 2020 #7
Staying was the big problem that Wellstone ruled Jan 2020 #8
I heard it doesn't mean they're leaving the region. babylonsister Jan 2020 #9
I have heard and read both in many DU posts today BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #11
Where is the "These colors Don't Run" crowd? jpak Jan 2020 #14
WaPo a few minutes ago, Hortensis Jan 2020 #15
Seems to me like Seely was ready to defer to the very Iraqi sovereignty hes been trying to protect, Volaris Jan 2020 #19
Well, this makes us look totally serious and not weak and indecisive at all gratuitous Jan 2020 #16
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2020 #20
Ain't no clusterfuck like a Trump clusterfuck. tanyev Jan 2020 #18
You are so right. cwydro Jan 2020 #21
Most incompetent administration ever. They fuck up everything. ooky Jan 2020 #22
Indeed ck4829 Jan 2020 #24
He did say he planned to run it like his business. KentuckyWoman Jan 2020 #29
K&R ck4829 Jan 2020 #23
Great. NATO troops that were not involved in the Bush WH invasion applegrove Jan 2020 #26
Soundtrack to all this Dr Vegas Jan 2020 #27
Every part of this SHAMINISTRATION is a bad joke. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #28
The Pentagon has never looked so ridiculous. lpbk2713 Jan 2020 #30
Keystone Kops. With nukes. moondust Jan 2020 #31

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
1. The DoD is saying it's a draft sent by mistake... *after* confirming its authenticity
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:37 PM
Jan 2020



Me thinks no one knows what the fucking HELL they're doing at the Pentagon!

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
5. What in the world?! How incompetent!
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:41 PM
Jan 2020

The letter wasn't hand signed, which I thought was odd when I saw it, and this would explain that nicely.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
12. What's more astonishing is that the letter was sent to the Iraqis to begin with.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:54 PM
Jan 2020

How does it go from "unsigned draft" to sent to the Iraqi Defense Ministry? From the picture of the letter, it's on paper but no idea if the Iraqis rec'd it that way or if it's a print out.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
17. Since it appears the whole incident, from start to finish, was super-clusterfucky...
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:13 PM
Jan 2020

You're likely right, or the other way around - Trump called someone and said "send the letter!" and Esper (on someone else's orders?) pulled it back?

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
4. You guys think this will boost Trump's approval?
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:41 PM
Jan 2020

It's a disaster, but a lot of Americans will see troops leaving and think it's a good thing, regardless of the fallout.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
6. I don't know or care what it does to his approval.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:44 PM
Jan 2020

Every president since 2003 has needed to do this. It is NOT a disaster by any means. The disaster was staying.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
7. Depends on the consequences.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:46 PM
Jan 2020

ISIS will definitely rebuild because of this, and if it gives Trump enough of a boost, he might win 2020 and then America is over.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
11. I have heard and read both in many DU posts today
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 05:51 PM
Jan 2020

and on cable news and no one is sure which directive is the "real" one. Not too organized, are they? This makes me feel super safe...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. WaPo a few minutes ago,
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:06 PM
Jan 2020
In a draft letter released Monday, Marine Corps Brig. Gen. William H. Seely III said that U.S. forces will be relocated “to prepare for onward movement” and says that “we respect your sovereign decision to order our departure.” A U.S. military official confirmed the letter’s authenticity.

Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said during a briefing at the Pentagon that the United States has not made any decision to leave Iraq.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
19. Seems to me like Seely was ready to defer to the very Iraqi sovereignty hes been trying to protect,
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 10:03 PM
Jan 2020

And a good decision that was, imho...

And then the White House decided (stupidly, but what else is new) that that was just too cucky, so fuck all that noise.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. Well, this makes us look totally serious and not weak and indecisive at all
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:09 PM
Jan 2020

Another brilliantly-executed plan by the master of the art of the deal.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
21. You are so right.
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 10:56 PM
Jan 2020

I don’t think anyone knows what they’re doing.

There’s no one at the helm.

ooky

(8,924 posts)
22. Most incompetent administration ever. They fuck up everything.
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 12:01 AM
Jan 2020

God we look stupid to the rest of the world.

KentuckyWoman

(6,688 posts)
29. He did say he planned to run it like his business.
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 12:47 AM
Jan 2020

When he leaves the US will be bankrupt and even though the name is still on the door the Russians will own it.

applegrove

(118,696 posts)
26. Great. NATO troops that were not involved in the Bush WH invasion
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 12:33 AM
Jan 2020

of Iraq, but arrived there to help fighting ISIS are in danger now too.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
31. Keystone Kops. With nukes.
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 03:03 AM
Jan 2020

I guessed earlier that the assassination itself may have been a stupid mix-up due to a lack of coordination.

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