Instead of going to war, Iran impoverishes the Trumps.

And, it would be fun to watch.

That's how he makes money without having to deal with the financial burden of the buildings themselves. But those licensing agreements won't be worth squat when Trump's very name causes people to avoid the buildings that carry it.

Panama, maybe in Chicago, and one in Canada, I think.

I remember when Keith Olberman sold his condo in Trump tower almost immediately after the election. He said he just couldn't live there any more. Smart move. I understand that those apartments are now very difficult to sell.

And isn't that just so sad?

My younger daughter lives in NYC and I did ask her to avoid high-target type areas.

The Trump Foundation is kaput so it's up to the RNC to purchase some of his condos now.

After he is out of office, he won't be getting the emoluments from his supporters as much.

Wonder how his up-for-sale Wash DC hotel business is doing pricewise now.

It’s not just to protect the country, it’s to protect himself. But no, Donny had a different idea.

too bad
he is kinda hangin out there
son eric will manage...?

That superb show starring Oscar Winner, Rami Malek, about a computer hacker who wipes out the finances of a world terror organization. Surely, Iran has the knowledge to wipe out Trumps financial holdings without firing a shot, and have the Russians on his ass because his loans are due.

Watching that show, I often thought how nice it would have been if it were true. The part where they take the money from the 1% and give it back to the rest of us.

Great finale, but I sure am going to miss the show.

presidents lives and families without us doing everything in our power to absolutely stop that form of warfare.

We can never let presidents be in the position of being victims of hostile powers personal threats because they accept the presidency.

The threat alone will scare everyone living in Trump's properties and people who might consider buying them. Values will plummet.

This is why we used to believe that Presidents should not have a financial interest in their presidency.

If Iran never carries out the threats, but destroys Trump's empire, then how do we respond?

War is worse.

Of awesome deals.

that's what I was getting at.

we should not be amused or making light of countries going after our presidents families and personal and financial lives.

Don't start wars.

telling our president they are going after his family and personal life relationships. They must be prevented from being able to use that personal intimidation of our presidents for anything.

Reality is that Iran may kill Americans in retaliation for Trumps decision or they may take a higher, far from prefect, road.

Ask them to stop threatening us or bomb them in to oblivion?

Iran will get revenge. Trump's financial ruin is his own doing. If it saves American lives...

What is your solution?

make sure it doesn't take. We do anything, spare nothing, absolutely nothing, to prevent terror to destroy our government by threatening the president's family and relationships of any kind.



This is a question of we never allow it at all, or we lose all.

until we see it put into action, that goes for all the 'war' talk as well.

I am worried about the enthusiastic embracing of these threats by some Americans, and the embracing of Iran and their goals in general.

No one here is embracing Iran's goals.

We're trying to prevent the killing of Americans. It's a fantasy to think Iran will not take revenge. If Iran thinks they won by hurting Trump's finances versus killing Americans, I prefer this. Don't you?

If Trump didn't have a financial interest in his properties, our President would not be in this position.

the 20th century economy anymore, and billion is the new million.

Presidents should not profit from the Presidency.

That's not the American way. As long as we are a Democracy, we can win this battle.

WHAT THE ACTUAL F*CK!! Corrupt AF!

Is a special case, as had been said many times - he is a non-traditional president, ergo - he has made all of his official (?) actions personal. Shit happens.

I think we are all pretty aware that Trump is already personally indebted and serving Putin's interests.

So.. if thats the criteria.. our Government is already gone.

But.. Personal life =/ name based financial house of cards.

If Trump had divested, or put it all in blind trust, It wouldn't be an issue, as no one would know what they needed to go after to harm his finances.

Plus... Even if they destroy every cent of whatever assets he had on entering the presidency... He has a secure exit. Either he leaves office with a more generous pension than he deserves, and definitely a reasonable amount for any person to live on, plus 10 years of secret service protection... Or he has free long term room and board at taxpayer expense as the various trials resolve. Either way he is set for life in a fashion more generous than he actually deserves.

A president who will point out an individual in a rally and tell the thugs in the crowd to THROW him/her out. Don't hurt him/her BUT if you do I will pay you legal bills (lie).

A president who will make fun of an individual with a disability.
or
A president who will use Twitter to attack his [I love this one] "Never Trumpers"
or
A president who will charge the taxpayers an estimated $120 million so he can play golf.
or
A president who will destroy our relationship with allied nations. Including giving away classified information.
or
Finally, a president who will personally ignore our Constitution and do the bidding of the Russians.
Is this the guy we should worry about? The ONE who has made a fool of himself on the international stage?

A U.S. President earns respect for his actions. Or loses it for his actions.

Because it looks like someone is being disingenuous about what pmurT is doing.

a high official of a nation we're not at war with in a third nation we invaded years ago starting a war in which nearly a million of its citizens died.

Who's the terrorist nation?

Depends on your perspective.

militia leader underling who was leading the attacks on our embassy and he was killed in Iraq, not sitting in Iran being an Army General.

Iran is a terrorist nation and has been since the ayatollahs took over.

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And btw, we also helped the Brits overthrow Iran's elected PM in 1953 to install the corrupt Shah from whom the ayatollahs you speak of retook their country from being run by the US/UK puppet.

Again, it's about perspective.

probably as a result of us deposing Mossadeq and installing the Shah...

more as 100s of thousands demonstrated against them.

the US government is partly responsible for that. Do you think Iran would be controlled by religious fanatics if Mossadeq would've been allowed to rule? (A democratically elected leader btw)

again,

so i'll be pellucidly clear. Iran is where it is as a society in part because of the continued interference of their government by ours. Our regional manipulations created these monsters. The richest Americans are going to make a SHIT-TON of money off of this conflict. I don't condone anything this General did. But what Trump did was a war crime. And it was stupid.

For some background info on the region you could try reading Informed Comment... I find Juan Cole a good judge of the area's tensions. Sy Hersch (sp?) has also been good...

edited to add link:

https://www.juancole.com/2020/01/millions-soleimani-history.html

This assassination was for trumps personal political gain , not for a national security threat. He did this to promote anything to change the news cycle away from impeachment , but this known now why he did this makes a greater case for his impeachment, and shows he's a much greater threat to our national security that the Iran general was. If its discovered he had others invest into the stock markets or for profits making money off of his actions that's even more to show he needs to be impeached now.

It's a scenario he's been waiting for. I have always said he admires Putin because Putin kills those who oppose him. Kim Jong Un kills his own family members if they piss him off. Drumpf has sought that kind of power. He will try it again. I'm sure he got off on it.

They put whatever fortunes they had into blind trusts.

agent orange should have given some thought to his international brand before assassinating an Iranian general. Poor planning gives poor results. I have no sympathy and neither do the children being held away from their families in cages.

Why should we have to absord the cost of defending the indefensible. Just don't elect multinational corrupt billionaires (fake or real) in the future and we'll just let this one be a lesson learned (or an example to the rest).

... would be the moral argument that assassination isn't what countries that want to participate in the international community do.

If you want to protect against foreign powers coming after the presidents financial interests, then you require them to divest and place their assets in a blind trust.

The current president has blown up our moral high ground in regards to the first, and is not interested in the second, so I don't know if there is anything we can do, other than at the moment, restrict his power to act, and in the future, require that presidents relinquish their financial interests to a blind trust.

mess, I say all the power to Iran handling Trump personally rather than through our troops.
Yes, he was a bad man, but other administrations new the possible consequences of making that kind of move. You realize we have no allies to back us up in this situation, don't you?

Think about it....

in the press.

Here is a pretty thorough listing.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a30420240/middle-east-us-harware/

I had no idea....

and that same President is looking for foreign help to keep the Presidency. The Republican Party and about 40% of American are A OK with it. What is the difference between one foreign power helping him to be President and one trying to stop him from being President. Russia did it to screw over America and to benefit itself. Iran is doing it to protect itself.

His personal finances are not our concern. That is what Iran is targeting...his beloved money and his name.

There is a reason for these rules.

... but Chump didn't do that. Now his enemy has a way to make him pay.

How is that our fault?

Suck on that, BigBoy.

Sorry but...

They do not even have to do any bit of damage to the place.

being completely willing to sell off all his properties prior to inauguration. He can claim he turned over control all he wants but the fact remains his name is all over these holdings.

Knowing this guys history, I still say he will find ways to capitalize off these events - either politically or financially.....

File a massive insurance claim, pocket the money and laugh all the way to the bank. He would view any destruction of his property as a business opportunity. And i wouldnt put it past him to cause the damage himself.

... Trump branded hotel ?!

Trump is stupid

and his brand is now worth a bucket of warm piss.

he'll always be rich. just being POTUS guarantees that.

No doubt.

But, if Iran instead kills Americans, ask their survivors what is worth more.

Seriously fucked up priorities on display today.

No need to kill anyone.

Who’s going to retaliate then?

It just takes a few gallons of herbicide

Use the drones to do it so no one knows for sure who did it until Iran claims they did.

The Iranians aren’t stupid.

anyway.

And I thought it would be smart to target Trump personally instead of America generally.

Attacking the customary military facilities doesn't really affect Trump or do much of anything overall.
To destroy Trump's real estate empire would be a major victory.

The only problem is that Trump is insane so his reaction could be nuclear.

Where will he get his hamberders and covfefe then?

so he can play big real estate investor again, recycle daddies money.

Billy Ray Valentine : [watches Louis clean his shotgun] You know, you can't just go around and shoot people in the kneecaps with a double-barreled shotgun 'cause you pissed at 'em.

Louis Winthorpe III : Why not?

Billy Ray Valentine : It's called assault with a deadly weapon. You get twenty years for that shit.

Louis Winthorpe III : Listen, do you have any better ideas?

Billy Ray Valentine : Yeah. You know, it occurs to me that the best way you hurt rich people is by turning them into poor people.

Coleman : You have to admit, sir, you didn't like it yourself a bit.

Link to tweet

With McConnell, Lindsey, McCarthy, Nunes, Jordan and numerous others camping out in these properties. Those “nobodies” are who I would like to see staying there if something “were to happen”. Just saying.

I have but one question, do they have a go fund me page? I have a few cents to contribute. I will give and give.

Enough money can buy a lot of non violent harassment just make it Trump properties.

I’m hoping hundreds of thousands are too scared to ever use one of his seedy investments. Sorry employees....I’d start looking for some alternative source of income.

Maybe your hackers can get his tax returns....and the Kompromat that Putin has on tRUMP. I sure hope you're listening.

should move into trump properties.

Sorry, that was bad of me!

Is that it puts the need to put country over party into incredibly stark and clear focus. So now, Moscow Mitch and all you Republican senators: Will you continue to enable this inept, incompetent, immoral, clueless moron who only thinks of his own personal interest, and never the national interest, even when doing so will lead our country down a sure path to total disaster???

Persia has always been subtle, intelligent and willing to plan for long-term surgical revenge.
They've been at it for millennia.
When our ancestors were still hunting boars with spears in the Schwartzerwald or along the banks of the Danube, they ruled a glittering empire from Tehran.

But it is going to be a long wait before the west is done causing trouble.

You reap what you sow.

He's got it coming. Maybe when he gets some biblical level consequences, he will learn to quit surrounding himself with Bible Belt assholes. Wait until he makes one wrong move. They will all turn on him too. THAT is the part I am waiting to see happen. It's only a matter of time. I'm waiting for it, patiently.

Iran might turn out to be the classiest enemy he ever made if they just go after his assets that way. Bring him down and leave the American people out of it? What better could we ask for? We didn't hit them. HE did. Let him reap what he sowed and pay for his own actions.

Personally, I would prefer it that way. I don't want more children in other countries bombed and maimed and murdered in my name using my tax dollars. I don't want children caged in my own country either, while I am at it. I never claim to be the biggest fans of kids, but I definitely don't want them harmed either.

Let Iran handle him this way. I love it.

their military leader to die, and not the US Grid that would punish the American people. I feel like a rotten person looking to harm the quasi leader of our Country, but all the horrible things he's managed to do in just 3 years has upset me so much, I've lost control of my anger. I never thought I'd say this, but Iran could be the one to save the USA!

trumps closest sick supporters in Congress outing them and their dirty deeds , and why they are so enabling and supporting anything he does. There's a reason why Graham and others are supporting him ,and its got to do with dirt he has on them, and Iran might start picking them off with exposure of what they've done. Nunes, Grahman , Jordon, Moscow Mitch, and others unless they remove him from office ASAP. Iran could put the pressure on them by getting information on them.

Trump gets all the money he wants from his partnership with Putin.

It's not without strings. He will pay for it dearly, if he's hasn't already.

I wonder if there will be an US Cyber election firewall for Iran only?

....."bomb" them with a bunch of fleas and bedbugs.

The news story alone will empty out every tenent.

Should have their headquarters in Trump Towers, NYC.

You know a good guy with a gun and all.

I hope it does. But if there is an attack on a Trump property, I think we can expect Trump to use the US armed forces to retaliate and then it's war and our troops are still in danger and we're spending an enormous amount of money.

But if Iran threatens Trump's properties (as they have just done) without actually attacking, then as you say no one will want to live there or (I'm adding) visit. That will hurt him. It will still cost us for the extra security he is sure to set up at taxpayer expense, but at least it doesn't seem that that will get people killed.

a mortgage, as curent commerical and private tenants flee?

ZERO!