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Cyrano

(15,043 posts)
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 03:16 PM Jan 2020

Can Trump lead us into a nuclear war? You bet.

So Iran retaliates in some way because the orange creature killed one of their heroes.

Then the orange imbecile feels he must elevate an attack that outdoes there's.

Anyone who doesn't believe Iran has nukes is an idiot, (though their leader may be slightly more sane than ours). So once the orange beast has elevated it enough, what's Iran's easiest and most hated target? America's ally, Israel. A country that also happens to possess nukes.

So let's play "what if" for a second. Either Iran or Israel, fearing that the other will strike first, actually does the insane and launches a nuke.

Once that first one if aloft, we've reached the end. Russia is Iran's ally. We are Israel's ally. So what if Russia decides on a "first strike" before we can hit them?

Before I go any further, let me say this. The incredible imbecile, Donald Trump, has made multiple scenarios possible in which someone can actually launch an atomic weapon. It's mind boggling to think that anyone is that stupid. But Trump voters, you are among the throngs of stupid.

So if the above scenario, or something similar plays out, my only hope is that you Trumpists are among the last to be incinerated in any possible nuclear holocaust that could occur. There may not be much satisfaction in it after the world is destroyed and we're all dead, nonetheless I want you ignorant pricks to survive long enough to see what your vote caused. Then again, my wish is hopeless. There's no way you will ever blame your "Chosen One." In your minds, It will have been caused by Muslims, Jews, blacks, Mexicans, and everyone else you hate.

But believe it or not, motherf#$%&*s, your hatred could possibly destroy the planet we all share. And somehow, I don't find any satisfaction in that.

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Can Trump lead us into a nuclear war? You bet. (Original Post) Cyrano Jan 2020 OP
He couldn't lead the way to mcdonalds.... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #1
With Trump, every worst case scenario is possible. Call me an idiot though... Caliman73 Jan 2020 #2
Will the military powers carry out his orders to nuke Iran? kimbutgar Jan 2020 #3
The bigger danger is Trump using nukes first Nancy Waterman Jan 2020 #4
Iran does not have a nuke VMA131Marine Jan 2020 #5
Maybe, maybe not. But think about a dirty nuke in Jerusalem Cyrano Jan 2020 #6
For one thing VMA131Marine Jan 2020 #8
I put NOTHING past him nt maryellen99 Jan 2020 #7

getagrip_already

(14,768 posts)
1. He couldn't lead the way to mcdonalds....
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 03:33 PM
Jan 2020

That doesn't mean he won't stumble into it.

But fwiw, lots of scenarios have been discussed to take out the proto-nuclear capabilities of a country like iran or nk.

Some involve using nukes to bust deep bunkers which otherwise couldn't be reached with conventional bombs. It's a tactical use, but it is still a first strike.

Analysts don't think you could take out a program without the use of nukes, which is why nobody has done it.

But all it will take is a cartoon, and he will be like, I approve all the options. And hell will be very warm. Very warm indeed.

But the evangelicals will be happy. They are just trying to figure out how to get him to target the mosque complex on the temple mount (Dome of the rock). They just need find the right cartoon hero to splain it......

Caliman73

(11,740 posts)
2. With Trump, every worst case scenario is possible. Call me an idiot though...
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jan 2020

the problem with your scenario... the Iran has nukes thing. While there may be a possibility that Iran may have the capacity to develop nuclear weapons, it would be exceptionally difficult for them to actually have a fully working device that is capable of being delivered to a target.

We know North Korea has nuclear weapons because they have tested them. We monitored the explosions. They are also testing long range and intermediate range missiles to deliver such weapons.

Unless EVERYONE in the world, including President Obama and all of his administration have been lying to the world, Iran has not tested any kind of nuclear device, nor has it tested any vehicle capable of delivering a nuclear warhead any further than MAYBE Israel.

Israel thought Iran was close to getting a warhead back a few years, and hit a facility. Do you not think that this would not happen again?

There is no doubt that the idiot Trump is capable of blundering into a nuclear war, no doubt at all...

Nuclear war will likely not be launched from Iran.

kimbutgar

(21,168 posts)
3. Will the military powers carry out his orders to nuke Iran?
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 04:31 PM
Jan 2020

The blow back from China and Russia will be tremendous. The nuclear particles could easily reach Russia, Europe and China by the air flows. I could see the world declaring war on the US because of the unhinged monster in the White House.

Nancy Waterman

(6,407 posts)
4. The bigger danger is Trump using nukes first
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jan 2020

There is no boundary yet discovered that Trump won't cross. This is just another one. If Iran attacks and Trump wants to one up them, tactical nukes are the way to win and shut the whole thing down. I have been fretting over just this for the past few days.

VMA131Marine

(4,140 posts)
5. Iran does not have a nuke
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:09 PM
Jan 2020

They've never been able to enrich enough uranium to make a bomb and they don't have a way to breed plutonium and separate it.

Cyrano

(15,043 posts)
6. Maybe, maybe not. But think about a dirty nuke in Jerusalem
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:34 PM
Jan 2020

The outcome will lead to the original scenario.

The scenarios that could result from the orange madman in charge are endless.

Don't get stuck on one possibility.

The insane creature in the White House will do anything, ANYTHING, to stay in power. Figure out your own plot for how this unhinged man will do anything, ANYTHING, to either hold onto power, or take the world out with him.

VMA131Marine

(4,140 posts)
8. For one thing
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:16 PM
Jan 2020

You wouldn’t make a dirty bomb with plutonium or uranium; they aren’t radioactive enough.

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