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Senate trial WITHOUT the Articles of Impeachment? (Original Post) bluestarone Jan 2020 OP
Don't call it a trial. It won't BE a trial. coti Jan 2020 #1
True that bluestarone Jan 2020 #2
roberts has no say...... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #3
Not sure if they really want bluestarone Jan 2020 #4
what if the house re-opened the impeachment to consider more evidence? janterry Jan 2020 #5
just a guess.... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #6
Makes as much sense as the rest of their bluster and claims 2naSalit Jan 2020 #7

getagrip_already

(14,768 posts)
3. roberts has no say......
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:13 PM
Jan 2020

The senate makes it's own rules, and it has sole responsibility for trial and removal.

If 51 senators vote to do something, it gets done. Roberts only presides. He doesn't control. The senate can over turn anything he rules on with 51 votes.

If you mean scotus, they won't touch it. The house,, having impeached the potus has fulfilled its constitutional duty.

Presenting managers and articles is merely a parliamentary courtesy. It isn't required.

They can do it. But it's pretty stupid. Still, they are republicans.

getagrip_already

(14,768 posts)
6. just a guess....
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 05:35 PM
Jan 2020

but they would have to vote to hold hearings in an appropriate committee, and then vote to amend the articles or create a new one.

But unless they repealed the impeachment vote, the articles would stand until amended.

The senate would likely ignore the new hearings and proceed.

The dems could still amend the articles, or issue a new one, and vote again, creating a new charge the senate would have to do something with.

The senate could then just vote to dismiss it out of hand though.

This is a high stakes poker game. It's a game of what-if and what will people think.

The gop is playing the crazy card though. It's the I don't give a fuck what people will think, we are done with this whole thing. We'll see you at the election.

So it's a game of chicken. And the train is moving fast. Place your bets, buckle up. It's gonna be a bumpy month since the GOP really, REALLY, doesn't want trump doing the state of the union with impeachment still out there.

2naSalit

(86,660 posts)
7. Makes as much sense as the rest of their bluster and claims
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:43 PM
Jan 2020

which is BS so what they will do is everything they can to make the Senate insignificant by pulling this crap.

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