What we hear is usually about notorious prisoners. Every now and then there's news about a regular person. Like the Iraq vet with PTSD who went to jail for a bank robbery. His cellmate beat him almost to death then tied a sheet around his neck to make it look like suicide.

The prison told his mother he tried to commit suicide, there was no investigation. After he awoke from his coma he told his mother what really happened. Oh and they didn't let her see him until weeks after the incident.

I think bad shit happens all the time.

...since he survived, he did not have an autopsy conducted by the highly competent medical examiner of the City of New York, Dr. Barbara Sampson.

Are you absolutely positive she cannot be bought, or influenced by threats? Competency doesn't have anything to do with those things, which are decided with emotions.

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I love the way these schemes always rely upon a good number of people who can be threatened or bribed successfully with no one reporting the threats or attempted bribes. The people who run these things are always remarkably lucky with their threats and bribes...

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So, tell me, how much does it take to bribe or threaten a woman whose findings convict criminals all of the time?

Clearly I was not promoting a conspiracy theory with my first post. Just wanted you to answer my question.

But hey, thanks for the snark.

In the imaginations of some people, there is an endless supply of persons who can be bought off and threatened, and who never talk.

One wonders how Epstein was arrested and confined in the first place, given the attention it attracted.

It would have been so much simpler to eliminate Mr. Epstein prior to confining him to that jail. This amazing network that can move people into and out of federal lockups with the cooperation of multiple employees, and who can likewise get an ME from a non-federal democratic administration to “fudge” a report, surely had the resources to eliminate Mr. Epstein prior to his arrest and confinement to prison. This would have not required the cooperation of so many others.

so much as he invited other rich people to participate in the most unforgivable crime... and may have video taped them doing it.

wanted Epstein shut up.

Not saying I don't think your hypothesis of woefully badly run prisons is possible. On the contrary, I think it's likely.

But the series of unfortunate events surrounding Epstein's death is just too numerous and convenient to be easily accepted as coincidence or unintentional foul ups.

But they can't produce that...

than the complicated "some unknown person killed him" which would have required at least several people in on the plot.

Plus, if the first suicide attempt had actually been a murder attempt, don't you think Epstein would have gone very public with the claim "They're trying to kill me!"?

I had the same question about people getting excited over the first suicide attempt, but I get tired of the bullshit attacks on skeptical thinking.

of COURSE it had to be a conspiracy .... Because .. powerful people!

There was a flurry of excitement about loss of video on his tier during the first suicide attempt - ie the unsuccessful one which he survived.

Since, obviously, he survived the first attempt, is the idea that he was somehow unable to tell the lawyers he spent all day with, what happened?

And do people believe there are not cameras on every door and hallway in the place that would show anyone entering or exiting the general area anyway?

Who has the most to lose if the cameras are always working?

It's not the prisoners.

Who in their right mind wants to guard prisoners for a living?