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Caliman73

(11,742 posts)
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 08:26 PM Jan 2020

Now for a non controversial topic - Medicare

This is an offshoot from another thread earlier today on DU.

Medicare is the health care insurance program for older Americans in the United States. Here are some interesting facts for those who care to know.

https://www.nasi.org/learn/medicare

At the time it was signed into law it was one of the largest public policy victories for progressives/liberals since Social Security and created a sense of medical security for retirees.

https://www.thenation.com/article/how-medicare-was-won/

Medicare has been opposed since it was conceived however. Many people either remember or have seen the commercial Ronald Reagan made against Medicare. The GOP has been trying to alter or kill Medicare ever since.

https://www.ncpssm.org/entitledtoknow/on-medicares-53rd-anniversary-democrats-decry-gop-cuts-and-sabotage/

https://theintercept.com/2015/07/30/medicares-50th-birthday-lets-forget-ronald-reagans-insane-diatribe-trying-stop/

There are people, even on DU who decry some of the shortcomings of Medicare, including me. I work with the elderly and I am often upset that Medicare does not cover dental, that it doesn't cover long term care placement for people who are not safe at home, that it doesn't cover prescriptions without Part D, which is private insurance.

People get mad at Medicare or they love their insurance or supplemental but the reality is that the weaknesses in Medicare are there for two reasons 1. because the trajectory or healthcare in America wasn't really known in the 1960's and MORE IMPORTANTLY 2. because coverage was deliberately curtailed by people who wanted to privatize the healthcare system. They wanted to both weaken any government assisted system and they also wanted to stick in profit centers wherever they could once it was established that Medicare was going to be hard to kill.

So the question is. What do we need to do to make Medicare better?

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Now for a non controversial topic - Medicare (Original Post) Caliman73 Jan 2020 OP
What Canada does. blm Jan 2020 #1
Pay for it with VAT ? MichMan Jan 2020 #2
Sure, but how do we sell it. Caliman73 Jan 2020 #3
Ugh! I have to sign up and been putting it off, turn 65 on Sunday 4139 Jan 2020 #4
Yep. They have made is super complicated, by design. Caliman73 Jan 2020 #5
Thank you... the term 'navigator' a very helpful hint 4139 Jan 2020 #6
Not that complicated at all quaker bill Jan 2020 #7
I not taking SS yet but i'm told that must sign up for Medicare now else there'll be penalties 4139 Jan 2020 #8
Likely true quaker bill Jan 2020 #9
Get rid of any politician who is for ANY "entitlement" tweaks or cuts. Autumn Jan 2020 #10

Caliman73

(11,742 posts)
3. Sure, but how do we sell it.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 08:32 PM
Jan 2020

Has the well become too poisoned?

I mean Reagan and every other GOP calls it socialism even though they claim to support it to get the elder vote. People on this site have argued vehemently against Medicare for All.

How do we do what Canada and every other civilized nation does?

4139

(1,893 posts)
4. Ugh! I have to sign up and been putting it off, turn 65 on Sunday
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 08:44 PM
Jan 2020


Currently employed with company health plan

Caliman73

(11,742 posts)
5. Yep. They have made is super complicated, by design.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 08:47 PM
Jan 2020

Good luck. If you can, you should consult a healthcare navigator from a non-profit agency to help with your decision.

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
7. Not that complicated at all
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 09:19 PM
Jan 2020

I got my medicare card in the mail today. I will be 65 next week. If you are applying for Social Security, as I did, then the medicare application is included, no extra steps required. For new enrollees you can call medicare directly via their helpline. All the supplements are government contractors. The guy I spoke to on the helpline took my prescriptions down and my zip code and ran the database to find me the best deal, then hooked me up with Part D on one phone call. I had to hold for about 15 minutes to get to a person, so pjck a moment when you can do something else and put the phone on speaker...

In short, no problems, no hassles and my checks start arriving in a few weeks.

I went standard medicare, not medicare advantage, because I am just opposed to the managed care profit motive.

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
9. Likely true
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 01:17 PM
Jan 2020

you should talk to the medicare folks directly. There is some language in their literature about Part B penalties and having an employer based plan. I did not study it as I retired 6 months ago and have been carrying the former employer's plan on cobra at full freight. It was lousy high deductible coverage that I could not wait to be done with. So, I took Part B and am immediately saving $800 a month, nothing to actually consider there for me.

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