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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:53 AM Jan 2020

Great thread about inside Trump's WH after the assassination of Soleimani (from Jan 5)

Reza Marashi ✔ @rezamarashi

Jan 5, 2020

THREAD: Over the past few days, I've spoken extensively with career U.S. government officials as they've worked around the clock to try and mitigate the damage from Trump's ineptitude on Iran. With their permission, I'm sharing a small taste from our lengthy conversations. Enjoy.

"We have no functional national security decision-making process in place. We have no plan for what comes next. They are woefully unprepared for what's about to pop off, and they're too stupid to realize it. People here are freaking out, and rightfully so."

"I'm gonna call you later tonight to talk through this so I can go into meetings tomorrow armed with some sane talking points to insert into this clusterfuck."

"When did most of us find out about killing Soleimani? After it already happened. Since then, we've been trying to cobble together contingency planning on the fly, but these charlatans ignore most of it, and then Trump does more stupid shit that puts us back at square one."

"All Trump cares about is shitting on Obama's legacy, sucking up to donors, and distracting from impeachment. None of this is about American interests or security. He's surrounded by ideological lunatic sycophants like Pence and Pompeo. But they're far from the only ones."

"So many of Trump's top advisors on Iran are military vets who served multiple tours of duty in our wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere. They believe to their core that Iran is the reason why they lost those wars, and they're dead set on payback - no matter what it takes."

"They've been pushing to kill Soleimani for years, and they finally baited Trump into it. They think war with Iran is long overdue, so for them, this was a means to an end. When Iran responds, they'll tell Trump to hit the Iranians harder. You see where this could go."

"They know the Iraqis are gonna kick them out now, so they're gonna try to kill as many as possible on their way out. Iranians, Iraqis, whoever. Some of them are advising Trump to tell the Iraqi government to fuck off and dare them to make us leave. I shit you not. Insanity."

"They know the Iraqis are gonna kick them out now, so they're gonna try to kill as many as possible on their way out. Iranians, Iraqis, whoever. Some of them are advising Trump to tell the Iraqi government to fuck off and dare them to make us leave. I shit you not. Insanity."

"When I used your points about Soleimani's murder being a catalyst for Iranians to rally around the flag, they said that was 'Obama apologist bullshit,' and the Soviet Union forced people against their will into public displays of support. So apparently Iran is a superpower now."

"Trump is threatening war crimes against Iran, and none of his top advisors have the courage to publicly oppose it. Instead, they act like cowards and go on background with journalists to express their opposition. They should all resign. They don't deserve to serve this country."

"We have friends that are getting deployed into war zones, but for what? Trump has deployed 14,000 troops over the past 6 months, and it didn't prevent the current crisis. At what point do we start asking whether deploying troops is part of the problem rather than the solution?"

"The scariest part is that they're just making shit up to justify their preferred course of action. When we point out inaccuracies or question logic, we're at best yelled at or at worst cut out of the process. Most of the political appointees are paranoid, unqualified, or both."

"Last year, if you would've asked me whether American institutions are durable enough to prevent a Trump-led war with Iran, I would've said absolutely. Today, I'm not so sure. For as bad as it looks to you all on the outside, it's even worse when you see it from the inside."

"One of Trump's top Iran advisors got suckered into a honey trap, had their laptop/iPhone stolen and hacked before they woke up, and the White House refused to take precautionary measures regarding their security clearance. Ladies and gents, I give you the Trump administration."

In conclusion: Yes, folks. It really is that bad. I am but a humble messenger of truth. The voice of the voiceless. That is all. You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

10:49 PM - Jan 5, 2020

























Fascinating...
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Great thread about inside Trump's WH after the assassination of Soleimani (from Jan 5) (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 OP
Kicked and bookmarked! smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #1
Yep, exactly as I've imagined it to be. PandoraAwakened Jan 2020 #2
"Contingency planning on the fly"? That's quite an oxymoron. CaptYossarian Jan 2020 #3
The career officials' disdain comes through babylonsister Jan 2020 #4
Just as I suspected 2naSalit Jan 2020 #5
Never trumpers, Obama lovers, liberals awesomerwb1 Jan 2020 #6
"All Trump cares about is shitting... 3catwoman3 Jan 2020 #7
Sad truth is even if the Deplorable base believed NoMoreRepugs Jan 2020 #9
well, that's all pretty fucking terrifying. Javaman Jan 2020 #8
Horrifying but not in the least Brainstormy Jan 2020 #10
who had they honey trap sex? demtenjeep Jan 2020 #11

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
3. "Contingency planning on the fly"? That's quite an oxymoron.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:38 AM
Jan 2020

And no, Donald, it has nothing to do with your overused zipper.

babylonsister

(171,079 posts)
4. The career officials' disdain comes through
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:44 AM
Jan 2020

loud and clear. I wouldn't be surprised if more whistleblowers come forth. When is enough enough?

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
6. Never trumpers, Obama lovers, liberals
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jan 2020

That's how the right wing propaganda machine will describe these folks (like the person who provided this information).

3catwoman3

(24,026 posts)
7. "All Trump cares about is shitting...
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:05 AM
Jan 2020

...on Obama’s legacy.”

And there we have it, folks - Trump is willing to destroy the country because he was masterfully taken down at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,451 posts)
9. Sad truth is even if the Deplorable base believed
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:27 AM
Jan 2020

every single word of this it still would not matter to them. It’s why I say reconciliation of the 2 parties is not going to happen this Century.

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