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Bullshit headline from CNN (Original Post) spanone Jan 2020 OP
Crap!!!! a kennedy Jan 2020 #1
It forced the Republicans to reveal their determination to turn it into a complete sham. olegramps Jan 2020 #35
+1. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2020 #37
Knew it was going to be Cillizza before I clicked. n/t ok_cpu Jan 2020 #2
Yup, me, too. dmr Jan 2020 #15
Yep crimycarny Jan 2020 #20
Same. n/t+ demmiblue Jan 2020 #22
I know, just plain lame grantcart Jan 2020 #27
As always. What a little dickwad he is. Like KPN Jan 2020 #33
CNN is obviously... Mike Nelson Jan 2020 #3
Anyone that DENVERPOPS Jan 2020 #16
Yet I've read a DUer trashing Rachel. Duppers Jan 2020 #31
It was probably DENVERPOPS Jan 2020 #39
😅 Duppers Jan 2020 #40
how idiotic. if it was a "gamble", it was a freeroll, because it cost absolutely nothing. unblock Jan 2020 #4
This is a psyop which means none of it is true. underthematrix Jan 2020 #5
Good call... Newest Reality Jan 2020 #18
Getting Republicans to a "sorta" fair trial and witnesses? Iliyah Jan 2020 #6
She leveraged the media for weeks and may still have more pwb Jan 2020 #7
moreover, *she* never imagines she possessed that kind of leverage unblock Jan 2020 #8
Cleazy is so sleazy. nt DURHAM D Jan 2020 #9
"Analysis by Chris Cillizza" JaneQPublic Jan 2020 #10
Yeah, that's clickbait. Stop taking the bait. nt coti Jan 2020 #11
I may have been hallucinating Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2020 #12
BULLSHIT on CNN! bluestarone Jan 2020 #13
They never learn malaise Jan 2020 #14
They seem to forget that congress was gone for two weeks for Christmas & New years spanone Jan 2020 #29
That's ok. Let team dumbass drop their guard. louis-t Jan 2020 #17
You read my mind Tink41 Jan 2020 #19
BS moondust Jan 2020 #21
It's not only CNN. MSBBC was doing the same rufus dog Jan 2020 #23
I remember when CNN was good lunatica Jan 2020 #24
As with sex, sexism sells dlk Jan 2020 #25
CILIZZA Maven Jan 2020 #26
boycott cnn, easy peasy. nt yaesu Jan 2020 #28
And this one from yesterday is bullshit too ArcticFox Jan 2020 #30
"Cop gambles on arresting suspect caught in the act -- was it a MISTAKE!?!?!?!!" FiveGoodMen Jan 2020 #32
Feedback Link Reader Rabbit Jan 2020 #34
I call this consternation news - PSYOP or Soap Bubbles to sell... MartyTheGreek Jan 2020 #36
I knew it was Chris Cillizza before I clicked. He does this to female Dems blm Jan 2020 #38
He released that story hours before Nancy released the Parnas messages. Oops. pnwmom Jan 2020 #41
Moscow Mitch ... DID ... change his stance on the trial from his first statements, Cilliza is behind uponit7771 Jan 2020 #42
To lose, there would have had to have been some alternative way to influence the Senate karynnj Jan 2020 #43
What was the gamble? kentuck Jan 2020 #44

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
35. It forced the Republicans to reveal their determination to turn it into a complete sham.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:51 PM
Jan 2020

It was so effective that four Republicans are backing the Democrats demand for witnesses.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
20. Yep
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 04:38 PM
Jan 2020

I knew it as soon as I read the headline. This is Cillizza's idea of being "provocative" and "insightful". In reality it's "predictable"

KPN

(15,647 posts)
33. As always. What a little dickwad he is. Like
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:41 PM
Jan 2020

tRump, he has a way over-inflated sense of self-esteem.

Mike Nelson

(9,961 posts)
3. CNN is obviously...
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:39 PM
Jan 2020

... wrong. She got people talking about witnesses and kept the topic going... Republicans and Moscow Mitch would have dismissed the whole thing, without much discussion - now, they have a light shining on them and their vote on witnesses. Nancy has played the entire impeachment very well. I believe she may have more cards to play, in the future.

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
16. Anyone that
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:54 PM
Jan 2020

Gives any credence to CNN s as stupid as Trumps groupies.

A lot of msnbc is equally putrid, the only way they allow Rachel is that she is a humongous cash cow and they worship money over all else......

unblock

(52,286 posts)
4. how idiotic. if it was a "gamble", it was a freeroll, because it cost absolutely nothing.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:40 PM
Jan 2020

and yet, we got an extra month of impeachment press out of it, and now the timing of the trial will cast a pall over donnie's state of the union speech.


so, she didn't gamble, and she didn't lose. other than that, the headline is fine

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
5. This is a psyop which means none of it is true.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:41 PM
Jan 2020

They made something up to diminish the Speaker in the eyes of the public.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
6. Getting Republicans to a "sorta" fair trial and witnesses?
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jan 2020

She did the right thing. CNN loves their contrary outspoken sorta journalists.

Props to Nancy!

pwb

(11,287 posts)
7. She leveraged the media for weeks and may still have more
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:46 PM
Jan 2020

to expose at her will. All cable news sucks. Print media does all the investigating and cable just reads it.

unblock

(52,286 posts)
8. moreover, *she* never imagines she possessed that kind of leverage
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jan 2020

*she* knew full well that mcturtle was never going to just bow to her wishes. the *media*, probably including cnn, ran with that idea on their own. afaik, pelosi never talked about an indefinite delay, nor did she ever talk about bending the senate to her will.

the media blew her position out of proportion, and now is pretending she was the one who got her hopes up.

she had always said it was a temporary delay and her only goal was to focus attention on the need for witnesses.


her aims were realistic and modest, and she succeeded.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
10. "Analysis by Chris Cillizza"
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jan 2020

The byline tells you all you need to know to pay this opinion piece zero attention.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,426 posts)
12. I may have been hallucinating
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jan 2020

but didn't I see a headline yesterday/today that McConnell lacked the votes to outright dismiss and/or prevent witnesses?

If so, how is that a loss for Pelosi?

spanone

(135,857 posts)
29. They seem to forget that congress was gone for two weeks for Christmas & New years
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:36 PM
Jan 2020

stupid fucks

Tink41

(537 posts)
19. You read my mind
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 04:32 PM
Jan 2020

Was just about to post. What is up with this? #1 reason I have not watched any type of news since 2009 inauguration I watched them trash Obama for 2 yrs and then I watched them fawn over him in January . Couldn't do it anymore, it's all about ratings and money, not the news, not the truth. I glance every few days to "see" what's going on and glanced today to this headline. Really??

moondust

(20,002 posts)
21. BS
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 04:46 PM
Jan 2020

Really CNN? She didn't gamble and she didn't lose. She did what she could given the time constraints and it definitely helped in more ways than one.

Last night Cuomo started his show with the HUGE battle over something Bernie may or may not have said about a woman being elected President.
These 8 words spell big trouble for Bernie Sanders

Really CNN? Eight words that may actually be a misquote/misinterpretation?

Makes me wonder if CNN executives are getting nervous about Bernie or Elizabeth getting elected and making them pay taxes. THE HORROR!!!





 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
23. It's not only CNN. MSBBC was doing the same
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 04:53 PM
Jan 2020

Played a clip of Moscow Mitch saying Dems were playing games. He was speaking from the Senate well, notice they all play clips of him speaking but never where he is asked questions. Then cut to Nancy walking down the hall while a reporter asked a negative question.

The optics they pull are straight out fucking bullshit. Always aimed at making Dems be on the defense.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
24. I remember when CNN was good
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:03 PM
Jan 2020

Now it just bounces off the walls jumping from one side of the aisle to another. I guess this is supposed to do whatever truth twisting is necessary to keep their MAGAT viewers.

This story is as far from the truth as it gets. So obviously to CNN the truth is fungible.

ArcticFox

(1,249 posts)
30. And this one from yesterday is bullshit too
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:38 PM
Jan 2020

"Russians hack energy company that played major role in Trump Ukraine scandal"

It makes it sound like Burisma actively contributed, rather than being dredged up by bogus POTUS.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
32. "Cop gambles on arresting suspect caught in the act -- was it a MISTAKE!?!?!?!!"
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:41 PM
Jan 2020

Whose side are they on?

MartyTheGreek

(567 posts)
36. I call this consternation news - PSYOP or Soap Bubbles to sell...
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:55 PM
Jan 2020

keeps the masses tuned in even if you don't like it. You wanna follow the saga, and they got laundry detergent, Depends, Anti-Depressants, and Viagra to sell.

The Trial of the Century! Stay Tuned!

blm

(113,082 posts)
38. I knew it was Chris Cillizza before I clicked. He does this to female Dems
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:55 PM
Jan 2020

when pitted against a male. He paints the story against them.

He did it regularly to Clinton. Now Warren. And now Pelosi.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
41. He released that story hours before Nancy released the Parnas messages. Oops.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 01:59 PM
Jan 2020

Looks like Nancy knows what she's doing after all.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
43. To lose, there would have had to have been some alternative way to influence the Senate
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 02:16 PM
Jan 2020

The fact is that had the articles been passed before Christmas, the trial would already be underway -- if not dismissed. This ploy actually has had an effect on the public and thus on some swing state Senators. I think she played this "hand" incredibly well - as she had few cards to play. A fair view of expertise in bridge, is how well you play the hands compared to others with the same hand - CNN here is just looking at the results as if the hand did not matter.

What is clear is that, in the last several weeks, more has come out and some Republican Senators have cold feet with regards to either dismissing it or not allowing witnesses. It is far more likely that there will be at least some semblance of a trial.

I am suspicious of articles that claim this as a loss - as if it were not a foregone conclusion that McConnell will do what he can to try to prevent any tough votes of his people and any challenge to Bush. I was a consumer of abundant media when the Clinton impeachment was done. I do not recall anyone saying that Newt Gingrich (who actually was cheating on his second wife with his third wife as he led the Clinton impeachment) was less powerful because it was completely unlikely that the Senate would remove. Instead, the story was that impeachment itself would forever cloud Clinton's legacy.

kentuck

(111,107 posts)
44. What was the gamble?
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 02:42 PM
Jan 2020

The biggest loser in this so-called "delay" was Mitch McConnell. He was ready to dismiss the entire case. I doubt that he has the votes at this time.

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