Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:31 AM Jan 2020

MSNBC reporting that some Republican Senators have "resorted to prayer" to get them

through this difficult time. Perhaps we will see footage of penitant republicans going to church tomorrow. (I expect no sackcloth and ashes, however).

Now, we are told that we must "hate the sin but love the sinner." But that is only if the sinner fully repents his/her sin against us and promises to never do it again. Prayer might help a few of them, if they are truly sorry and fear going to hell along with their beloved Trump, if they renounce him and the devil for whom they toil.

Somehow I don't see that coming...and, frankly, I don't care. If you republican Senators don't "walk the walk" (if you still know what that is) I don't wanna see you making a big show with Bible in hand at your local church tomorrow and your fervent beseechings to pray for Trumps family.

No, let Trump resign in ignominy and seek his forgiveness on his own time and without cameras.

76 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
MSNBC reporting that some Republican Senators have "resorted to prayer" to get them (Original Post) CTyankee Jan 2020 OP
How does prayer help when they swear an oath on the bible? mucifer Jan 2020 #1
They are vewy, vewy sowwy IF they did anything bad. Note the "if." It absolves all sins. CTyankee Jan 2020 #2
Oh yeah go to church and repent for what you are about to do mucifer Jan 2020 #3
Wrong religion? Nah... defacto7 Jan 2020 #5
Yeah, I have an ex husband who fits that description just fine. CTyankee Jan 2020 #11
When they swear an oath on the bible Bettie Jan 2020 #15
But then they lied to G-d so there's that? mucifer Jan 2020 #17
It "helps" them from the perspective that saying so onetexan Jan 2020 #28
Going to church in large numbers Ohiogal Jan 2020 #4
Well, that is what they "say" they are going to church for. I think they are going to pray for God CTyankee Jan 2020 #7
You and me both! Ohiogal Jan 2020 #12
"phony" is spot on. They are not in any way Christ-like. And the get-out-of-jail free card of Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #48
Pray for some moral authority! sueunderh Jan 2020 #54
I think they feel they don't have enough faith if they don't get what they want. defacto7 Jan 2020 #10
I double checked, yep.. gop senators irisblue Jan 2020 #60
They need to "resort to honesty and truth", not prayer. Bluepinky Jan 2020 #6
A familiar dodge. CTyankee Jan 2020 #8
Religiosity.... walkingman Jan 2020 #9
you can go through the Beatitudes one by one and see where he and his followers come out. CTyankee Jan 2020 #13
I posted the Bible reference for this down thread, but here it is in its entirety azureblue Jan 2020 #36
+1 CentralMass Jan 2020 #14
God's answering their prayers by DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #16
Nothing fails like prayer. no_hypocrisy Jan 2020 #18
I sometimes think these fools who think prayer does something Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #39
Just another form of "magical thinking." no_hypocrisy Jan 2020 #42
Prosperity gospel followers, the whole damn lot. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #19
nice post! Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #51
Great post malaise Jan 2020 #56
Thanks and have a great weekend, Malaise! KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #62
OUCH!!!!!!! Seven times over! calimary Jan 2020 #74
Put down the Bible and Pick Up the Constitution.....assholes spanone Jan 2020 #20
This!!!!!! Yes!!!!! N/t MANative Jan 2020 #38
How fucking pathetic can one get? GoCubsGo Jan 2020 #21
I pray they get some favorable results... kentuck Jan 2020 #22
Yeah and you know what? PCIntern Jan 2020 #23
Resorted to prayer? It's like they stooped to spirituality. bluedye33139 Jan 2020 #24
Assholes. ramen Jan 2020 #25
Assholes! Properly the same ones that offer prayers as a solution to murdered children from guns! nt RKP5637 Jan 2020 #26
Rethuglican hypocrisy knows no bounds Martin Eden Jan 2020 #27
Sometimes there just aren't enough emojis.🙄 dewsgirl Jan 2020 #29
Do they think prayers have stopped mass shootings????? TNNurse Jan 2020 #30
Another example of evil hiding behind religion Perseus Jan 2020 #31
Pray harder dalton99a Jan 2020 #32
This picture Zeus69 Jan 2020 #35
The look on his face. I am exalted, and the rest of you are screwed. kairos12 Jan 2020 #47
This picture, and the others like it, make me... 3catwoman3 Jan 2020 #71
Just a show for the evangelicals onlyadream Jan 2020 #33
"Dear Jesus--- azureblue Jan 2020 #34
Pray in one hand, shit in the other, see which one fills up first hatrack Jan 2020 #37
I'll leave this right here Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 #40
This happens when TV cameras are posted in front of the church FakeNoose Jan 2020 #41
Isn't there a separation from church and state.............................. turbinetree Jan 2020 #43
Didn't Al Capone donate to charity? rickford66 Jan 2020 #44
They genuflect to Drumpt. That's the Reich Wing praying, or braying. kairos12 Jan 2020 #45
They need a Game of Thrones style walk of shame IronLionZion Jan 2020 #46
Where is Guilliani? Timmygoat Jan 2020 #49
It is just a show for their constituents DenverJared Jan 2020 #50
Republicans have turned hypocrisy into an art form Cyrano Jan 2020 #52
Thoughts and prayers underpants Jan 2020 #53
so they are taking the same action as they do against gun violence. stevesinpa Jan 2020 #55
That's what the nuns used to teach us about gay folk a thousand years ago. ReformedGOPer Jan 2020 #57
We should look ahead and start now to print up "Forsoked* by God" pins. Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #58
They haven't even worked up to thoughts and prayers, yet. nt Gore1FL Jan 2020 #59
You nailed it CTYankee! 👏🏽👏🏿👏🏽👏🏼👏🏼👏🏿 MLAA Jan 2020 #61
My highest hope is that the "some" add up to a 2/3 vote for REMOVAL. Those who vote for it will ancianita Jan 2020 #63
I want to see them dance around and speak in tongue. I want to see them gather... Hotler Jan 2020 #64
I would suggest Dawgman49 Jan 2020 #65
they need to pray scarytomcat Jan 2020 #66
"What do I do, Lord? Baked Potato Jan 2020 #67
Who are they praying too? shockey80 Jan 2020 #68
When does Lent start? LiberalFighter Jan 2020 #69
Have they tried not being so corrupt? ellie Jan 2020 #70
GOD would tell you to ACKNOWLEDGE AND TELL THE FUCKING TRUTH. nt coti Jan 2020 #72
A good penitant would simply obey their oath and do the right thing. Ilsa Jan 2020 #73
Republicans are either stupid or immoral or both jimlup Jan 2020 #75
The Very Act Is Evidence... ProfessorGAC Jan 2020 #76

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
5. Wrong religion? Nah...
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:44 AM
Jan 2020

The human mind is so vulnerable to clan mentality leading to mental illness. We're so damn creative we loose track of reality and start believing our concocted dreams. Then when faced with survival we double down on those myths. Magic vs. math. Kill the beast vs. cooperation.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
11. Yeah, I have an ex husband who fits that description just fine.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:48 AM
Jan 2020

Living well is the best revenge, I can tell you that!

Bettie

(16,120 posts)
15. When they swear an oath on the bible
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:55 AM
Jan 2020

and it is already a lie because they don't plan to, in any way, follow that oath.

They use their religion as a bludgeon and a shield. That is all, it is a stick to beat others with and a shield behind which to hide.

onetexan

(13,056 posts)
28. It "helps" them from the perspective that saying so
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:36 AM
Jan 2020

Gives appearance to their rabid base that God has enlightened them to do whatever evil it is theyre about to so. Remember 'thoughts & prayers' after each shooting, yet they continue to support thr NRA?

Ohiogal

(32,046 posts)
4. Going to church in large numbers
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:40 AM
Jan 2020

And making a show of it just advertises that they are sorry and knew they did something wrong. At least, to me it does.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
7. Well, that is what they "say" they are going to church for. I think they are going to pray for God
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:45 AM
Jan 2020

to save their own asses.

I am so sick of these bastards and their phony "religion."

Evolve Dammit

(16,760 posts)
48. "phony" is spot on. They are not in any way Christ-like. And the get-out-of-jail free card of
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 11:29 AM
Jan 2020

repentance or being saved or whatever is just BS. If there is a God, I suspect it's in your permanent record/ rap sheet, whatever. That's just in case we get caught, we're still OK. Such bullshit. How about just acting decent to begin with?? Not even Christ-like, just decent, LAW-abiding (since you are LAW-makers) human beings? FCS, is that too much to ask? I know it's a rhetorical question...

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
10. I think they feel they don't have enough faith if they don't get what they want.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:47 AM
Jan 2020

Pray harder, whatever that is.

irisblue

(33,019 posts)
60. I double checked, yep.. gop senators
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jan 2020

plural noun: Pharisees
a member of an ancient Jewish sect, distinguished by strict observance of the traditional and written law, and commonly held to have pretensions to superior sanctity.
a self-righteous person; a hypocrite.

{subset--Rand Paul, priggish Pharisee, all around asshole, definition mine}

Bluepinky

(2,276 posts)
6. They need to "resort to honesty and truth", not prayer.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:45 AM
Jan 2020

It’s funny, but those who are NOT religious are more Christian than those who ARE religious.

walkingman

(7,655 posts)
9. Religiosity....
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:47 AM
Jan 2020

Selective Christianity, a kind of pick-and-choose religion that makes people feel good by acknowledging Jesus with their words, and denying him through their actions, is a very common approach these days.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
13. you can go through the Beatitudes one by one and see where he and his followers come out.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:50 AM
Jan 2020

And I am not religious.

azureblue

(2,150 posts)
36. I posted the Bible reference for this down thread, but here it is in its entirety
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 11:02 AM
Jan 2020

Matthew 25: 31- 46 (The sheep and the goats,aka I TOLD you how to behave...

31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 Before him kwill be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, xI was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,6 you did it to me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
16. God's answering their prayers by
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:00 AM
Jan 2020

showing them the evidence that Trump and his money changers need to be tossed out of the temple. I guess that's not the "answer" they want.

Farmer-Rick

(10,202 posts)
39. I sometimes think these fools who think prayer does something
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 11:09 AM
Jan 2020

Really don't believe it.

They just say it to con others.

no_hypocrisy

(46,160 posts)
42. Just another form of "magical thinking."
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 11:13 AM
Jan 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_thinking

In psychology, the entities between which a causal relation has to be posited are more strictly delineated; here it denotes the belief that one's thoughts by themselves can bring about effects in the world or that thinking something corresponds with doing it.[1] In both cases, the belief can cause a person to experience fear, seemingly not rationally justifiable to an observer outside the belief system, of performing certain acts or having certain thoughts because of an assumed correlation between doing so and threatening calamities.

In psychiatry, magical thinking is a disorder of thought content;[2] here it denotes the false belief that one's thoughts, actions, or words will cause or prevent a specific consequence in some way that defies commonly understood laws of causality.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
19. Prosperity gospel followers, the whole damn lot.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:07 AM
Jan 2020

Someone please tell me again what year I missed when some new chapters of the Bible dropped down out of the heavens that tell us to worship the money changers and elect them as our leaders instead of running them off.



(thanks, EarlG)

Church visits for Republicans are nothing more than campaign stops.

KY..........

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
62. Thanks and have a great weekend, Malaise!
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 12:10 PM
Jan 2020

That issue strikes heavy on my heart 'cause I watched the Southern churches degrade and get political after the mid-60s to the point where I'm ready for their tax exemption to be taken away.

Regardless of one's beliefs or faith, they used to be a positive influence on our communities.......

KY............

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
21. How fucking pathetic can one get?
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:10 AM
Jan 2020

All they're doing is laying the groundwork for a "God said it was okay for me to let this vile sack of shit off the hook" excuse for their upcoming vote. Sad that loads of people will buy it.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
22. I pray they get some favorable results...
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:13 AM
Jan 2020

All they need is a little courage.

Otherwise, they will be on the wrong side of history.

PCIntern

(25,576 posts)
23. Yeah and you know what?
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:14 AM
Jan 2020

Prayers are great but you have to keep your feet moving and your brain working. Fuck these phonies who pray that they can fool everyone into thinking that they’re so devout and thus moral. They have the morality of a clam

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
26. Assholes! Properly the same ones that offer prayers as a solution to murdered children from guns! nt
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:27 AM
Jan 2020

Martin Eden

(12,875 posts)
27. Rethuglican hypocrisy knows no bounds
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:27 AM
Jan 2020

They use religion to commit myriad sins and to manipulate folks into voting against their own interests, so don't be surprised when they try to exonerate themselves under the cloak of religion -- fervently clutching a bible as they acquit the orange god they actually worship.

azureblue

(2,150 posts)
34. "Dear Jesus---
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 10:56 AM
Jan 2020

Please save my corrupt, greedy, lying ass from the consequences of my actions. I know I turned away immigrants. I know I cut health care so the old folks go untreated and hungry, but that's minor stuff, so please let me off the hook?"

Jesus. "Damn - I already told you about this in Matthew 25:31-46. I told you that you are going to hell, so quit whining and accept your fate. You knew."

hatrack

(59,592 posts)
37. Pray in one hand, shit in the other, see which one fills up first
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 11:02 AM
Jan 2020

So. Fucking. Tired. Of. These. Sanctimonious. Clowns.

FakeNoose

(32,722 posts)
41. This happens when TV cameras are posted in front of the church
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 11:11 AM
Jan 2020

As soon as the cameras turn off, they're gone!

turbinetree

(24,713 posts)
43. Isn't there a separation from church and state..............................
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 11:17 AM
Jan 2020

when one commits treason.....................

 

DenverJared

(457 posts)
50. It is just a show for their constituents
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 11:30 AM
Jan 2020

So when they vote to acquit, they can say they asked god for guidance and that their vote was given to them by the almighty.

Cyrano

(15,051 posts)
52. Republicans have turned hypocrisy into an art form
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 11:45 AM
Jan 2020

And in doing so, they may have fucked up American democracy beyond repair.

Let them all rot in that hell they make believe they believe in.

stevesinpa

(143 posts)
55. so they are taking the same action as they do against gun violence.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 11:49 AM
Jan 2020

talking to an imaginary overseer who, according to his own book, is as evil and immoral as the republicans praying to him?

ReformedGOPer

(478 posts)
57. That's what the nuns used to teach us about gay folk a thousand years ago.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 11:52 AM
Jan 2020

"love the sinner but hate the sin."

Baitball Blogger

(46,756 posts)
58. We should look ahead and start now to print up "Forsoked* by God" pins.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 11:57 AM
Jan 2020

*Yes, I know the correct term is forsaken but I'm woke.

ancianita

(36,132 posts)
63. My highest hope is that the "some" add up to a 2/3 vote for REMOVAL. Those who vote for it will
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jan 2020

have both a spiritual and, most important, an historical legacy in US to their credit, however pitiably they earned it.

Hotler

(11,443 posts)
64. I want to see them dance around and speak in tongue. I want to see them gather...
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 12:17 PM
Jan 2020

around Paula White while she heals a handicapped MAGA on the Capitol steps. Praise the Lord. Can I get an amen?
Gloooory Gloooory gloooory hallelujah!
Gloooory Gloooory gloooory hallelujah!
Help me I can't stop! Ooohhh the spirit is running through me.
OMG! I just healed myself. It's a miracle.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
66. they need to pray
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 01:48 PM
Jan 2020

They better be praying for forgiveness from Moscow Mitch and Dimwit Donnie if they cross these thieves they will get knifed in the back.

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
68. Who are they praying too?
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:06 PM
Jan 2020

Does God listen to crooks, hypocrites, liars? What are they asking God? Please forgive me lord, I have sinned. Please protect me so I can sin again. Please make it so I pay no price for what I have done, let me lie and commit more crimes lord.

PUKE!

Ilsa

(61,697 posts)
73. A good penitant would simply obey their oath and do the right thing.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:56 PM
Jan 2020

If tney are feeling this conflicted, then they already know what that is.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
75. Republicans are either stupid or immoral or both
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 09:13 AM
Jan 2020

in most cases it is both.

Though I'm an agnostic I attempt to practice Christian morality. Nevertheless, I find it hard to forgive the Republican scum who say the words on Sunday but either have no clue what they mean or ignore them.

ProfessorGAC

(65,157 posts)
76. The Very Act Is Evidence...
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 09:32 AM
Jan 2020

...of the fundamental problem.
A trial with facts doesn't require extrinsic guidance.
Merely paying attention and being honest will do nicely, thank you.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»MSNBC reporting that some...