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milestogo

(16,829 posts)
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:09 PM Jan 2020

Do you think our country is capable of a fair presidential election?

There was various kinds of tampering in 2016 and little, if anything, has been done to stop it.

There's the foreign interference.

There's the incredibly insecure voting machines.

There's the lack of paper ballots.

There's the gerrymandering.

There's the disenfranchisement of massive numbers of voters.

There's the possibility of actual hacking.

There's rampant corruption.


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3 (27%)
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7 (64%)
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Do you think our country is capable of a fair presidential election? (Original Post) milestogo Jan 2020 OP
We haven't had one since 1776. RandySF Jan 2020 #1
I will vote yes because I will not help feed into the Russian goal of us questioning the vote! UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #2
knowing that Russia helped install Trump into the White House Skittles Jan 2020 #3
That's what they want us to think that the vote was tampered with so we lose faith in the UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #5
we KNOW the vote was tampered with Skittles Jan 2020 #8
yes evertonfc Jan 2020 #4
Yes let's not forget the blowout midterm! I really hope we smash the gop coverup machine UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #6
Are you going to not vote because of the unfairness? Kaleva Jan 2020 #7
I always vote. milestogo Jan 2020 #9
Why bother if you think the election system is broken? Kaleva Jan 2020 #11
I don't know what the status of the election system is. milestogo Jan 2020 #14
You OP stated what you think the status of the election system is. Kaleva Jan 2020 #15
Because NOBODY knows the degree to which any of these factors affect the outcome of the election. milestogo Jan 2020 #16
So why ask the question then? Kaleva Jan 2020 #17
Yes. In 2018, we took the House, despite the above mentioned muntrv Jan 2020 #10
Freepers say that massive election fraud was the reason we won the House. Kaleva Jan 2020 #12
Define "fair." WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2020 #13
It's a mess, but GOTV in RECORD NUMBERS to overwhelm the interference. VOX Jan 2020 #18
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
2. I will vote yes because I will not help feed into the Russian goal of us questioning the vote!
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:13 PM
Jan 2020

Plus I think we are going to

Turn up and Turn out. You heard it here first.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
5. That's what they want us to think that the vote was tampered with so we lose faith in the
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:19 PM
Jan 2020

results. They did a lot of poking around so questions could be raised.

Skittles

(153,170 posts)
8. we KNOW the vote was tampered with
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:27 PM
Jan 2020

when a foreign adversary helps a candidate, when voters are targeted with propaganda, when voters are suppressed, THAT IS TAMPERING

 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
4. yes
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:17 PM
Jan 2020

If people vote. We had a fair midterm. We had a fair 2019 election. If more of us turn out- we will win.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
6. Yes let's not forget the blowout midterm! I really hope we smash the gop coverup machine
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:21 PM
Jan 2020

to smithereens!!!!

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
9. I always vote.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:28 PM
Jan 2020

But if our election system is broken, Republicans will hold on to power and keep Trump in the presidency.

We can't pin our hopes on the Presidential election if our system is broken.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
14. I don't know what the status of the election system is.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:37 PM
Jan 2020

That's why I asked the question.

So don't put your words in my mouth.

Kaleva

(36,318 posts)
15. You OP stated what you think the status of the election system is.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:41 PM
Jan 2020

Your words:

:There was various kinds of tampering in 2016 and little, if anything, has been done to stop it.

There's the foreign interference.

There's the incredibly insecure voting machines.

There's the lack of paper ballots.

There's the gerrymandering.

There's the disenfranchisement of massive numbers of voters.

There's the possibility of actual hacking.

There's rampant corruption."

How can you argue that you don't know if the election system is fair or not after you listed the above?

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
16. Because NOBODY knows the degree to which any of these factors affect the outcome of the election.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:47 PM
Jan 2020

These factors are real, not invented. We KNOW that there was foreign interference in 2016 because it was reported by the intelligence community. We DON'T KNOW whether or how much it affected the out come of the election.

Are you getting it now?

Kaleva

(36,318 posts)
17. So why ask the question then?
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:02 PM
Jan 2020

Why not ask those who voted that our country is not capable of a fair presidential election why they voted the way they did when, in your words, "We DON'T KNOW whether or how much it affected the out come of the election."?

Are you getting it now?

Kaleva

(36,318 posts)
12. Freepers say that massive election fraud was the reason we won the House.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:34 PM
Jan 2020

The Repubs would have held on to the House had the elections been fair.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
18. It's a mess, but GOTV in RECORD NUMBERS to overwhelm the interference.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:06 PM
Jan 2020

Especially in the usual swing states!

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