where was this Kerry in 04. :

The blog had his schedule and coverage = and he and his family were working as hard as they could.

awesome

Just Wow....

and blaming him for not winning instead of those that should have had his back like the DNC chair, his VP mate, Dems who sat on the sidelines, and the same media that gave air time to the Swifties, and an SOS in GOPer in Ohio.

It just seems that Senator Kerry gives a great speech, helps out Dems and the POTUS, and it's still not good enough for some. Wow.

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While Kerry is a strong and able person, I think the mountain of lies heaped on him by big money may have hurt his confidence. He struck me as very intelligent and educated, but shy and modest.

Which led to him being accused of being arrogant and aloof, as often happens to people are considering many possibilities before they answer a question for which someonemight deliver a throw away answer. I feel that Obama gets the same treatment.

His praise for Obama I think was heartfelt and he knows very well what the Democratic Party stands for and believes in Obama. He has been working with him for many years. It's just some times that it is easier to praise another, harder to praise oneself.

Kerry has lived a very worthwhile and important life with conviction and bravery, and been abused by the lying media for decades. He was attacked by the right viciously when he came back from Vietnam and said some truths many people did not want to hear in the sixties and seventies. They were technical things, but true.

Kerry ran a good campaign for POTUS in an almost impossible contest with an imcumbent in the middle of a war that had the media calling anyone who opposed it a traitor. Kerry was attacked on frivolous grounds.

He was accused by CT shills as having 'let GWB win' because they attended the same college. He lost because of such severe election fraud by the GOP that the perps were sent to prison.

He has, like Ted Kennedy, done his duty to the nation. As far as any DUers insulting him, they may be disaffected primary losers, but the media was so horrific then, and it's worse now, that he wasn't going to get a fair shake anymore back then than Dean would.

The other DUers who always insult all Democrats, don't pay them any mind. They have been watching too much of American Idol and believe that insulting people like Simon Cowle is a sign of a superior intellect and makes them look clever. it doesn't, it makes them look shallow and pettty.

And we probably have a few trolls among us, I just saw a thread get hidden by someone who insulted Obama, just trying to work that post count up.

Use Ignore, I do.

Especially the confidence factor. IAT that there he feels free now as himself and it's easier to make the case for a Dem President too.

All the other points are excellent. Didn't know about the Anti-Obama thread (he can't catch a break either. , but thanks for the heads up.

Will definitely take your advice. Thanks for your patience.

I know he won and when they stole the office from him; it was the second worst thing that ever happened to this country (after the office was stolen from Gore).

I thought Kerry did good despite the adversity.

Awesome!!!

Glad they got with the program now, and not a moment too soon!

Bush had to go to the box in the back to survive face to face with Kerry in rounds 2 and 3. WTF people voted Bush in 2004 is the greatest mystery of all time.

That's no mystery...we didn't. Anymore than we voted him in in 2000. Karl Rove just needed to get him close enough to steal it. Florida in 2000, Ohio in 2004. What I've never been able to figure out is how they got enough votes to get it close.

I just cannot figure out how it is close at all!

I'm not sure if the media is just trying to make this into a competition or if they are colluding with the Republicans to help steal the election.

I really think the media knows this thing is over. If you look at the many, many pictures that have been posted here of the crowds that are turning out for Obama, as opposed to the much, much smaller groups gathering for Romney, you know it's no contest. Contrast the panoramic shots of the Obama crowds (which we NEVER see in the MSM) to the tight shots of Romney supporters...the media has a HUGE stake in this. They make serious dollars on campaign ads...if the people are allowed to think this is over, that money will dry up and blow away. But, if they keep reporting the polls are tied, or very close the ad money will keep flowing...and they want their share.

On the bright side, the silver lining here is that by continuing to report this as so very, very close, it helps us get the votes out. I'm a proud Democrat, but we can be lazier than hell sometimes. Republicans go to the polls, regardless. Democrats will stay home if the weather's bad, or if everything hasn't been absolutely perfect and everything they wanted done got done (a la 2010, letting the perfect be the enemy of the good) or IF THEY THINK THEIR CANDIDATE HAS A LOCK ON THE ELECTION.

I've volunteered to work this election, and as a teacher, I'm encouraging my students to be active also. Actually, I'm "bribing" the hell out of them. They'll get extra credit for bringing me their voter registration card, for their "I voted" sticker after the election, for getting their parents out to vote, and for working the election. The commander of our JROTC unit at school blew my doors off the other day by coming into my classroom and talking to them about how important this election was, how their future was at stake, and really hit a LOT of democratic talking points. We're not supposed to get political in class, but he was obvious about how he supported Obama. He told them that the huge Clinton surplus, which could have gone to education, health care, etc. was squandered by "sending people like me to Afghanistan" and giving people who didn't need them huge tax breaks, so now they get to sit in classrooms with WAY too many other kids (our classes are averaging out to about 40 kids), their parents' houses are underwater, and (get this) a woman's right to choose her own health care options are being wiped out. He also confirmed to me the next day what has been posted here at DU...Obama has been the best thing for soldiers and veteran's since FDR. All four of our ROTC folks are for Obama, (2 African-Americans, 1 Hispanic, and 1 Caucasian), and he really gave me the impression that the military is behind Obama all the way.

So I think in a strange, almost 1984 way, the media is doing us a favor. If we don't get "souls to the polls" on election day, it'll end up being a 2000/2004 redux. The Rove Machine will get it close enough to steal, and nobody will be able to figure out how Romney won.

On NPR they keep saying how Obama is more likeable and has higher approval ratings, but people want someone who can "fix the economy"; i.e. Romney. Over and over again. I find myself yelling at the radio "How the f*** will returning to the failed policies and tax cuts that caused this mess 'fix the ecomony???'"

And this on NPR, the so-called "liberal left wing media". So imagine the shit they are spewing on Faux News?

NPR's coverage of the two conventions reveals a great deal; for the RNC all I heard were talking heads from within the Rebug ranks praising the speakers and the convention, for the DNC I heard a lot of snark and criticism; on the street interviews about concerns over jobs and the economy; never even a hint or suggestion that 8 years of tax cuts for millionaires and two disastrous and costly wars that Bush and co. LIED us into might have something, just a little SOMETHING to do with the situation we find ourselves in.

"The Daily Howler" and "Media Whores on line" were two sites I went to in 2000/2004 that really opened my eyes to how the media constructs a lazy narrative ("Al Gore is a serial liar, Kerry is wooden and stiff&quot and then just keeps hammering on it.

Americans are one of the most propagandised nations in history, no wonder thieves like Carl Rove can get enough votes to steal elections. I can't believe Romney is getting as much support as he is; let's just hope they don't steal another one.

I wish we'd seen more of this John Kerry in 2004. I've always held him in such high esteem, and now he's risen even higher.

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you said that in a better tone then most.

He came to Flint during her last campaign. I was wearing my Veterans for Kerry button, and she spotted me in the crowd. Afterwards, she pulled me aside and ORDERED me to go and introduce myself to him. I'd met her several times before, so I think that might be why she spotted me. Anyway, he got a kick out of me still wearing that button.

Forgot that not everyone got to see the Senator, but for you and those who did, good for you!

Thanks for your service too. Means a lot.

He was such a warm, kind man that I had to give him a big hug. The way he was treated, when he ran for re election, was one of the most dispicable things I've ever seen.

He just turned 70 too. (There is a pic of him and Kerry in his birthday thread in the DU Kerry group).

I agree, the way he too was smeared was absolutely shameful. Yep. Very despicable.

...Gov. Granholm said he was 'our President'? I only saw video...

It woudn't surprise me, though. Governor Granholm is a real fun campaigner, whether it's her campaign, or she's campaigning for others. I do have a couple of nice photos, somewhere.

...meet the Senator. I met him a couple of times when he came to California in 2005, thanks to a DU friend.

I held John Kerry in high regard, until he voted for the IWR in October 2002 that gave GW Bush authority to invade Iraq. Given Kerry's rise to the national spotlight as a Vietnam vet protesting that war, he should have been our standard-bearer in making the case against sending our young people into Iraq. I was profoundly disappointed when he cast his vote in favor of the resolution.

Nevertheless, I took time off work and traveled to Cuyahoga Ohio to help get out the vote for John Kerry in November 2004. In my entire life I was never so despondent and utterly disgusted with my country when Bush took a 2nd term.

It is monumentally IMPERATIVE that we WIN this November.

Kerry gave a great speech, but guess there are some that will never forgive him that that vote or the primaries. Gee.

I like John Kerry. He's on our side. As a person, I forgive him.

But as a voting citizen who cares deeply about my country, I must use my best judgement to assess the politicians who want to be our leaders. One can forgive, but it is a mistake to forget.

In what was very likely the most critically important vote in John Kerry's career as a US Senator -- and his greatest opportunity to step up as a leader when it counted most -- he had very poor judgement and failed the people who really needed him. Do you disagree? Had he done differently, I think he would have had a much better chance to unseat the Worst. President. Ever.

OK, maybe I'm out of line by raining on his parade after he made such a strong speech in support of our president in an election it is absolutely imperative to win. Go ahead and "bash" me for speaking my mind. I can take it, and I bet John Kerry can take it too.

Just think that it spoke volumes that Obama put him in the prime time slot. Some thought the same thing. Why have someone who voted for it speak for Obama on foreign policy, or that he "had his chance." He conceded Ohio, you name it. So many ignore that Senator Kerry is a critical ally to Obama and Biden when it comes to FP and Chairman of the SFRC.

Not going to bash you. You have a right to your opinion.

Obama didn't have to put Senator Kerry in that slot, especially since he (Kerry) was up against the MTV VMA's, it was primary day in MA and rightfully so the Obamas, Clinton, and Biden were top draw; but, he did, and it was arguably the best convention in years.

To each his own.

I'm loving it!

...we need him to run again for President in 2016. With or without Hillary...

"auditioning" on Twitter.

All he trying to do is get Obama re-elected. Why not just give him some credit for doing just that.
IDU.

Kicking butt and taking names, Go John Kerry!!!

...politicasista.

I am.

Gotta get to the TV. I'm loving this convention.

He gives a speech like that 8 years ago he wins

....and I agree big-time. Kerry really knocked it out of the park....something that I wasn't expecting. What a surprise -- pleasant and some shocking -- but still a surprise.

Too bad he was swift-boated by the rethugs in '04. The guy deserved better, and was a helluva lot better qualified to be president than dubya.

I hope he felt a measure a payback with this speech. I'm sure Rmoney felt some of it!

Go Obama/Biden '12!

LHJ

who's your daddy now, punk?

wowsa!

dynamite.

then here comes Joe and now Barack............

I am so done

Payback for what they did to him in 2004.

It was a great speech. I worked my heart out of Kerry in 04 (well, the hubby did more), and it broke my heart what they did to him. It felt good to see him let loose!

I'm having to do the convention via computer links.

mind at all!

Video: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021289518

Transcript: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021289267

Tweets: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021289464

WOW!!!!!!!!!

What a great job!

I not only was stunned and pleased but entertained with his downsizing of rmoney and the republic party.

I guess I'm older than a lot of you. Just a decrepit, aging hippie with a pretty good memory!
That was the old, original Kerry that I remembered...straight out of Viet Nam, full of fury at the corrupt system that sent him and thousands of others there for no damn reason. A guy I respect and admire.

...I'll bet. I remember that John Kerry, too. I think he's always been there...but maybe the last years have clarified the fight.

Just the energy and the way he said certain things and the look on his face as he was saying them.

Must be the anti-oxidants in the ketchup.

Hope that Teresa aka Momma T is doing well.

and none are better-known.

People need to see that he is focused on doing just that instead of vice versa.

Hillary's already said she wouldn't be SoS for the second term.

the video.

He was amazing.
Does anyone know where I can find the video tribute they did at the convention to the veterans? I wanted to put it on my face book page but can't seem to find it.

It was a very moving video. I watched it on Cspan but was flipping thru channels to see how many stations were carrying it at the time. CNN & Foxx went to commercial breaks or interviews while MSNBC and Cspan played it. Now I can put it on my facebook page so friends who may have missed it can see it. You're the best for finding it for me! Thanks so much.

It's really a wonderful tribute.