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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL THREAD 8****
Thread 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212892639
Thread 2 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212892926
Thread 3 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212893290
Thread 4 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212893638
Thread 5 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212894298
Thread 6 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212894914
Thread 7 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212895415
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)Re: Schumer Amendment to subpoena Boton to testify.
madaboutharry
(40,231 posts)Calling these clowns out on their bullshit and calling them liars.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)He said the pResidents lawyer(s) have no standing to call other people liars.
Am gonna have to review the transcript on that one. It was heartening.
ancianita
(36,148 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)ancianita
(36,148 posts)Schiff's indignation is appropriate and elegantly articulated.
"I guess that's how you drain the swamp -- by having all your people go to jail -- that's exporting the swamp."
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)ancianita
(36,148 posts)Can't take the ugliness of Republican mess and mire.
Tumbulu
(6,292 posts)I dont really get it.
elleng
(131,176 posts)ancianita
(36,148 posts)He said that they must remember the historical decorum called for by the chamber they are in.
Is that clearer?
Nadler had had it, and finally told them off about their being judged right along with this president.
I was pissed that he admonished both equally when Republicans have dumped more dirt in that chamber than ANY one. So I mocked him.
I can't stand John Roberts, I've made that well known in the past. If it weren't for him and Bush, this country wouldn't even be in this cesspool of corruption.
Tumbulu
(6,292 posts)were being rude. I only hear it from the Trump team.
Yes, Im with you on Roberts.
ancianita
(36,148 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)( )
ancianita
(36,148 posts)fever pitched bullshitting.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)ancianita
(36,148 posts)Twelve straight hours. and eight threads.
I nominate you for the DU World Cup of Hosting.
napi21
(45,806 posts)DTs lawyers. I don't agree with the reprimand from Roberts either. I didn't hear any inappropriate language from either Nadler or Schiff.
ancianita
(36,148 posts)ecstatic
(32,740 posts)The GOP has done absolutely nothing to deserve respect!
"Remember who you're addressing?"
Yeah, that's the problem. Nadler remembers.
Over 50% of that body is traitorous, trump-ass kissing trash!
madaboutharry
(40,231 posts)ecstatic
(32,740 posts)F*ck Roberts!
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)Then he admonished both sides.
He certainly wasn't referring to all the lies told by the republicans.
They think they deserve respect.
Very few in that room have earned it.
Mersky
(4,986 posts)Roberts comes in for an admonishment for each side. Huh. What was that term, pediflogging? No, it was pettifogging.
ancianita
(36,148 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)Then had to back out of that to see roberts speaking more than just reading a little script for procedural bits. Just stunned me. Im not sure what I think of it.
I know we wouldnt be in half of the world of shit were in without roberts court. And I am rather pissed he was moved to chime in this late, and not earlier for the litany of smears and lies coming from the right.
ancianita
(36,148 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)I didnt think hed come in and interfere, say, by calling for dismissal like giuliani was claiming on fox a couple weeks ago - I thought that was absurd. Decorum paddling, though? That just threw me about his role.
I must comment that the Van Hollen amendment at the end forcing the republicans to vote against affirming that the presiding officer, CJ, can make final vote on the question of calling witnesses is breathtaking next to Roberts interjection.
ancianita
(36,148 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)They do choke on a gnat, and theyre swallowing their own elephant butt these days.
mucifer
(23,576 posts)ancianita
(36,148 posts)He's not constitutionally to impose judicial rules in any congressional chamber. So that's what presiding is. Just judicial witness of a legislative body's trial.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)Initially was going to waive the reading and Schumer tried to withdraw but then no second and there was an objection to waive the reading so they are reading the Amendment text.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,468 posts)I don't think they've experienced a filibuster before.
(ETA: twice my 'l' has doubled on me)
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)to fire it up some. They are afraid to do a full-on GYMSUIT Jordan circus act... at least so far.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)I.e., does not guarantee the ability to maybe possibility to vote and debate on witnesses...
Amendment will strip out the layers that would preclude having a debate to hold a vote on a resolution for certain witnesses.
Tumbulu
(6,292 posts)and Im only in my 60s! How are these guys doing this? And the Democratic Prosecutors are just really impressive!
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)Roberts is due in court in the morning to hear SCOTUS cases.
Tumbulu
(6,292 posts)How can he be in both places?
ancianita
(36,148 posts)who should be the target of all their ire.
Democrats are clear, classy, polite, cool and collected.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)He's basically laying out the bait and switch that they are most likely planning.
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)I wouldn't want any of those evil vile clowns defending me.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)SamKnause
(13,110 posts)He is a real winner.
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)Back to Adam.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)malaise
(269,211 posts)I am pissed.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,468 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)nolabear
(41,992 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)And Schiff reminded him that "tomorrow" was already here.
nolabear
(41,992 posts)ancianita
(36,148 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)Blaukraut
(5,695 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)DIFFERENT!
nilram
(2,894 posts)Staph
(6,253 posts)Susan Collins was the one that flipped.
Color me shocked!
Kali
(55,026 posts)there was a hesitation after her name was called.
nilram
(2,894 posts)nolabear
(41,992 posts)Interesting.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)to allow that the Chief Justice be given the authority to determine whether a witness is in order.
napi21
(45,806 posts)napi21
(45,806 posts)Pubs object...of course. But even if the Sens disagree with the ruling they can overrule him. But WHO wants to overrule the Chief Justice? Good Job Adam!
napi21
(45,806 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)to review the witness requests.
nolabear
(41,992 posts)Well done, Man. Well done, all of you.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)ancianita
(36,148 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)I'm sure he's seen how far the country has fallen. And he became a part of it. He has an opportunity to redeem himself.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)but they are a "trial".
And arguing that why they would be opposed is because they don't want Roberts to refuse to have Hunter Biden testify.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)"to trade someone who is 'irrelevant' for someone who is".
YES!!!
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)Next vote on adoption of resolution.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,468 posts)SamKnause
(13,110 posts)Bernie stands every time he votes.
The camera moves before the lady next to him votes.
I can't see her face.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,468 posts)SamKnause
(13,110 posts)Do you know who was sitting next to Bernie.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,468 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)ETA - they are apparently handing out copies of the Resolution that they were voting on. Sneaky since Turtle kept making changes.
Kali
(55,026 posts)D New Mexico - no
wonder why he was MIA?
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)Could be that sometimes "when ya gotta go, you gotta REALLY REALLY go!"
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)(thanks for correction)
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,468 posts)Edited for fun.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)(have been MIRTing and got bombarded with some spammers that needed to be dispatched )
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,468 posts)Gonna edit mine now.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)About 13 hours.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,468 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)calimary
(81,523 posts)As the night wore on, Jay Sekulow embodied it.
"When you don't have the facts, argue the law.
When you don't have the law, argue the facts.
When you don't have either the law OR the facts, POUND THE TABLE!"
And so help me, that's what Jay Sekulow DID, tonight! You could almost see the steam rising out of his widdle ears! OH the drama! OH the indignation! OH the histrionics! OH boy!
And former Florida GOP Rep. David Jolly, an MSNBC staple, came right out and said Cipollone LIED. "He LIED." Which is accurate. Claiming the CONS were shut out of the high-security room down in the basement - when THREE committees were called in, to review classified documents, INCLUDING about 100 GOP members of those three committees. That was a flat-out LIE! Isn't there some penalty for lying during these things, especially when you're supposedly a credible legal expert?
And now, I also notice, since the proceedings have just adjourned, folks heading out are walking briskly down the down-escalator, not just standing and riding down.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,496 posts)KY..........