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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 07:59 PM Jan 2020

Yamiche Alcindor: Parnas atty turns over hr long VIDEO of Trump talking about firing Yovanovitch



Yamiche Alcindor ✔ @Yamiche

Confirmed: Lev Parnas attorney, Joseph Bondy, tells me he has turned over to the House Intel Committee an hour long recording of President Trump talking about firing former US Amb to the Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch. Bondy said Parnas found the recording in his iCloud account.

6:56 PM - Jan 24, 2020




Yamiche Alcindor ✔ @Yamiche

NEW: Joseph Bondy, Lev Parnas’ attorney, tells me he turned over an hour long iPhone VIDEO recording to House Intel Committee of Pres Trump saying he wants to get rid of former Amb. Yovanovitch. Bondy says he hopes this will lead to a “tipping point” & Parnas will get to testify.

7:03 PM - Jan 24, 2020


Lordy!

Bondy's booked for TRMS tonight:



Jesse Rodriguez ✔@JesseRodriguez

TONIGHT: Lev Parnas' attorney Joe Bondy joins @maddow for an exclusive interview during special impeachment coverage on @MSNBC

6:43 PM - Jan 24, 2020
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Yamiche Alcindor: Parnas atty turns over hr long VIDEO of Trump talking about firing Yovanovitch (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 OP
Yes indeed. democrank Jan 2020 #1
Damn! Danascot Jan 2020 #19
See fan, see shit... TruckFump Jan 2020 #2
Backwards--the latter hits the former. nt tblue37 Jan 2020 #24
Ah, but it's more exciting the other way. ChazInAz Jan 2020 #25
What else will they "find"? BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #3
Maybe more "perfect" phone calls democrank Jan 2020 #5
Is this the same tape or another one? BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #8
I'm trying to figure that out too. democrank Jan 2020 #9
When this is eventually all revealed, likely BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #16
The earlier one that ABC has Lindsay Jan 2020 #12
That is verification then, right? BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #17
Thank you for this, Lindsay. democrank Jan 2020 #18
My God--there's actually a character in this national horror film called "Igor"... First Speaker Jan 2020 #21
So both Lev AND Igor are now singing like little birdies? calimary Jan 2020 #32
ambassadors serve at the pleasure of the president ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #4
Agree. it also confirms Trump is LYING when he claims he doesn't know Parnas. writes3000 Jan 2020 #6
As with all such things dpibel Jan 2020 #10
Neither of these guys had any authority.... dawnie51 Jan 2020 #7
A later tweet from Yamiche Alcindor Lindsay Jan 2020 #11
I just added that to the OP - VIDEO!! Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #14
Kick malaise Jan 2020 #13
Oh my goodness! blogslut Jan 2020 #15
Interesting fact about spies & stooges. displacedtexan Jan 2020 #20
Dems should just build additional Articles of Impeachment bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #22
the hits just keep on coming...wow. iluvtennis Jan 2020 #23
This should be the Nixon moment mainstreetonce Jan 2020 #26
I'm kind of floored this was on video. tinrobot Jan 2020 #27
It's not blackmail Mr.Bill Jan 2020 #30
Yes, this video wasn't... tinrobot Jan 2020 #31
I see what you mean. n/t Mr.Bill Jan 2020 #35
It's because they don't think they'll ever get caught. calimary Jan 2020 #33
Wow! H2O Man Jan 2020 #28
Coming up on Rachel right now Hekate Jan 2020 #29
Explosive Johnny2X2X Jan 2020 #34
The big deal to me on that tape The_jackalope Jan 2020 #36
If Lev Parma's had this... MoonlitKnight Jan 2020 #37
More interesting is that Trump asked Parnas (or Fruman) DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #38

democrank

(11,100 posts)
9. I'm trying to figure that out too.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:15 PM
Jan 2020

Trump spews crap 24/7 so it takes time to figure out which lie is which lie, if it’s a new threat, an old threat.... brand new BS, yesterday’s BS. My head hurts.

BigmanPigman

(51,626 posts)
16. When this is eventually all revealed, likely
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:24 PM
Jan 2020

many years from now, there will be enough info to fill several volumes. And that is just for 3+ years. There is enough BS in his first year to fill a couple of books with all the crazy characters and plots going on. Can you imagine what is locked up in the W House triple secret vault, where the supposed Perfect Phone Call transcripts are and hand written notes from a translator during 1:1 Putin meetings and phone calls.

Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
12. The earlier one that ABC has
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:19 PM
Jan 2020

appears to have come from Igor Fruman.

The one that this thread's about is from the same event, but is from Lev Parnas. And a later tweet from Yamiche Alcindor says this one's a video tape. (I posted the tweet later in this thread.)

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
21. My God--there's actually a character in this national horror film called "Igor"...
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:16 PM
Jan 2020

...I mean, this can't be true. Stephen King and Quentin Tarantino have to be making this all up, somehow...

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,413 posts)
4. ambassadors serve at the pleasure of the president ...
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:03 PM
Jan 2020

What matters is how he was talking. He could fire her at any time.

dpibel

(2,852 posts)
10. As with all such things
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:16 PM
Jan 2020

"the pleasure of the president" is tempered by the fact that permissible power exercised for impermissible reasons is impermissible.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
7. Neither of these guys had any authority....
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:07 PM
Jan 2020

to fire anyone. So what exactly did "take her out, do it now" mean? I know what it meant in "The Sopranos". No wonder the lady was getting phone calls in the middle of the night to flee.

Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
11. A later tweet from Yamiche Alcindor
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:16 PM
Jan 2020

says this one's a video tape.




Text for the twitter-deprived:

NEW: Joseph Bondy, Lev Parnas’ attorney, tells me he turned over an hour long iPhone VIDEO recording to House Intel Committee of Pres Trump saying he wants to get rid of former Amb. Yovanovitch. Bondy says he hopes this will lead to a “tipping point” & Parnas will get to testify.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
20. Interesting fact about spies & stooges.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 08:50 PM
Jan 2020

Trump pretends to be smart & screws up everything he tries to do, while Lev & Igor pretend to be stupid and end up owning Trump and all of his inner circle.

bucolic_frolic

(43,270 posts)
22. Dems should just build additional Articles of Impeachment
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:20 PM
Jan 2020

and send to the Senate in a month or two. Just keep building the case. Everyone in America knows, deep in their heart, in their mind's eye, the truth. It's just the GOP53 who won't act on it.

tinrobot

(10,914 posts)
27. I'm kind of floored this was on video.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 10:40 PM
Jan 2020

It just shows how utterly careless they are with information and security.

The conversation was bad enough, but... what else is out there on video? And more importantly, who's using those videos to blackmail him?

tinrobot

(10,914 posts)
31. Yes, this video wasn't...
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 11:05 PM
Jan 2020

But if someone can video this conversation so easily, there's bound to be others.

calimary

(81,450 posts)
33. It's because they don't think they'll ever get caught.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 11:10 PM
Jan 2020

And if they do get caught, they won't have to pay for it ('cuz trump is gonna fix it or bail them out or cover all their legal fees - like he said on the campaign trail in 2016, 'eh?

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
34. Explosive
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 11:18 PM
Jan 2020

Not sourced yet, but his reasons for wanting to fire her are spoke of in detail. Basically an energy deal and to help Russia.

I hope this gets released to the public straight away.

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
36. The big deal to me on that tape
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:04 AM
Jan 2020

Was Lev telling Trump that Ukraine wouldn't last very long without American aid. So he knew in April 2018 that the effect of witholding aid would be catastrophic for Ukraine. He knew. He knew.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
38. More interesting is that Trump asked Parnas (or Fruman)
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:22 AM
Jan 2020

how long Ukraine would last without US military and other aid and was told essentially "not long". This was,
according to Bondy, just after Ukraine got the Javelin missiles he'd approved for sale to them. Since this dinner took place in April 2018, Trump knew well-before the call with Zelensky just how vital US military aid was to them.

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