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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:26 PM Jan 2020

I don't understand, me being progressive as they come, why he's getting popular?

My blinders are on. Is it because people feel sorry for him being on trial the way they felt sorry for Clinton? I’m referencing the ABC/WP poll today that shows he’s the most popular he’s been ever, well tied.

Why does committing treason and selling out your country to Putin not matter to the average joe? In fact, it almost seems a net positive?

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I don't understand, me being progressive as they come, why he's getting popular? (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Jan 2020 OP
Red Don's numbers would be in the mid 30s high 20s without FAUK News, they float him 10 - 20 points uponit7771 Jan 2020 #1
Propaganda elleng Jan 2020 #2
Again this time next year there will a Democratic President rockfordfile Jan 2020 #3
44% approval rating is popular? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 #4
It's the economy DavidDvorkin Jan 2020 #5
Which falsely claimed as his when it is still the Obama economy liberal N proud Jan 2020 #6
Yes, but the incumbent always gets the credit or the blame DavidDvorkin Jan 2020 #7
50% want him removed so not a good try there. Kingofalldems Jan 2020 #8
Tribalism - the following can't be exact because Clinton was not a danger to the US and Trump is karynnj Jan 2020 #9
Two reasons Ex Lurker Jan 2020 #10

uponit7771

(90,344 posts)
1. Red Don's numbers would be in the mid 30s high 20s without FAUK News, they float him 10 - 20 points
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:31 PM
Jan 2020

... and is the main reason why we should bring back the fairness doctrine with strong oversight.

The whole point of the FD was to not have a media outlet aligned with a political party, we saw how bad that could be in the 40 - 60s.

DavidDvorkin

(19,479 posts)
5. It's the economy
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:34 PM
Jan 2020

That's always the most important factor. Most Americans, or at least enough of them, think the economy is very good, and they give Trump credit for it.

DavidDvorkin

(19,479 posts)
7. Yes, but the incumbent always gets the credit or the blame
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:42 PM
Jan 2020

No matter how much his predecessor deserves some or all of it.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
9. Tribalism - the following can't be exact because Clinton was not a danger to the US and Trump is
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:45 PM
Jan 2020

Pretend it is 1999 and you personally think Clinton behavior was inappropriate. There are two kinds of polls fro the President. Favorability and Job approval.

Consider job approval - lets say you are not happy with either the crime bill or the welfare bill. If there were no impeachment trial, you might say disapprove. With impeachment, you will say approve - just because you think impeachment is out of proportion to what he did.

Now consider favorability - again, while impeachment is going on - even if you are furious that he lied to his entire team (and HRC) - you likely would say favorable.

Going back to today - the Trump propaganda is that he now has these incredible trade deals that only he could have achieved. (Even though the NAFTA replacement was mostly things that were in TPP and China does little more than take us back to where we were before Trump's trade war that greatly harmed the US) Also, the economy is good - he says. Add in they think the Democrats are unfair - he has gained the few rw people who were not for him before.

Editted to add that there is no strong trend of improvement in his job approval - http://pollingreport.com/djt_job.htm

Ex Lurker

(3,813 posts)
10. Two reasons
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 09:46 PM
Jan 2020

1. The economy isn't terrible. We can argue who should get credit for it. whether it's really as good as Trump claims, and we can point out that segments are being left behind, but for most people, right now, it isn't terrible.

2. Trump and the GOP have mastered appealing to visceral, emotional issues that energize the base. Guns, abortion, immigration, etc. Democrats do it too on their own set of issues but they aren't as good at it as Republicans and the Democratic base isn't as monolithic as the Republican base.

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