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Andy823

(11,495 posts)
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 11:31 AM Jan 2020

Largest Veterans organization demands apology after Trump said traumatic brain injuries from Iranian

attack are 'not very serious'

Washington (CNN)

The Veterans of Foreign Wars is demanding that President Donald Trump apologize for downplaying traumatic brain injuries sustained by US service members in Iraq after Iranian missile strikes on American troops earlier this month.

Earlier this week, Trump said he does not consider potential traumatic brain injuries to be as serious as physical combat wounds, minimizing the severity of the injuries, saying he heard that some troops "had headaches, and a couple of other things, but I would say, and I can report, it's not very serious."

"The VFW expects an apology from the President to our service men and women for his misguided remarks," William "Doc" Schmitz, VFW National Commander, said in a statement Friday, following the Pentagon's announcement that 34 US service members have been diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries in the January 8 Iranian attack.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/25/politics/trump-vfw-traumatic-brain-injuries/index.html
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Largest Veterans organization demands apology after Trump said traumatic brain injuries from Iranian (Original Post) Andy823 Jan 2020 OP
He probably doesn't know what the word "traumatic" means. Mickju Jan 2020 #1
or "brain" Mike 03 Jan 2020 #2
LOL! Mickju Jan 2020 #6
Or apology. n/t sorcrow Jan 2020 #40
And when Trump refuses to apologize, as he always does? gratuitous Jan 2020 #3
I wouldn't even consider bein satisfied until tRumpy The Clown apologizes for his very existence!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #28
He won't apologize and kacekwl Jan 2020 #44
Apparently, the VFW failed to pick up on his attitude toward the military after his bullwinkle428 Jan 2020 #4
Don't hold your breath bitterross Jan 2020 #5
I agree with you Andy823 Jan 2020 #12
Apologizing would mean admitting he was wrong. calimary Jan 2020 #33
I hope so. He keeps alienating people so much wnylib Jan 2020 #35
VFW is not exactly known as a liberal organization DFW Jan 2020 #7
Agreed 100%, DFW - I'm happily shocked (for real) to see that dt has pissed off the...the VFW???! Leghorn21 Jan 2020 #9
YES! empedocles Jan 2020 #11
I totally agree Andy823 Jan 2020 #13
Right? Those are some salty old soldiers! nolabear Jan 2020 #15
Exactly karynnj Jan 2020 #17
He thought McCain deserved it for not faking bone spurs. CaptYossarian Jan 2020 #23
Hell will freeze over first Cirque du So-What Jan 2020 #8
Yep Andy823 Jan 2020 #14
Orange Foolius! I like that, Cirque du So-What! calimary Jan 2020 #38
Its not mine Cirque du So-What Jan 2020 #41
TBI isn't a big deal .... IggleDuer Jan 2020 #10
The VFW isn't our largest vets organization, the American Legion is. braddy Jan 2020 #16
Now I'm waiting for that big shoe (Legion) to drop. Basic LA Jan 2020 #19
The military itself is being recognized as the source for the casualty reports and why the initial braddy Jan 2020 #22
I would bet that DENVERPOPS Jan 2020 #31
Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #37
Your post displays a misunderstanding of what a Vet is. nt greyl Jan 2020 #46
K&R⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ spanone Jan 2020 #18
Are they finally going to stop voting for him? wryter2000 Jan 2020 #20
All vets do not vote for him Andy823 Jan 2020 #36
THIS. calimary Jan 2020 #39
How many times has VFW hosted & cheered for SHITLER? Besides voting for and otherwise supporting him UTUSN Jan 2020 #21
No minds will be changed. No apology. Boomerproud Jan 2020 #24
Visit to Arlington Cemetery reminded Donald Trump Jr. of all his family's 'sacrifices,' he writes keithbvadu2 Jan 2020 #25
On your side fwvinson Jan 2020 #26
Trump never apologizes n/t left-of-center2012 Jan 2020 #27
Sorry, guys - ya get what'cha vote for. NBachers Jan 2020 #29
Well, hopefully he pissed off enough Veterans where it will count. grumpyduck Jan 2020 #30
K & R SunSeeker Jan 2020 #32
and yet 2/3rds of vets will continue to vote for the russian agent orange. nt yaesu Jan 2020 #34
I'll bet most of the corporate media will not run this story. Number9Dream Jan 2020 #42
So far Andy823 Jan 2020 #47
Good luck with that Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 #43
He hasn't apologized to Central Park 5 yet... don't hold your breath. NCLefty Jan 2020 #45
K&R denem Jan 2020 #48
kick. nt Andy823 Jan 2020 #49

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. And when Trump refuses to apologize, as he always does?
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 11:38 AM
Jan 2020

Will service members and veterans withdraw their support, or can Trump count on them again in November?

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
28. I wouldn't even consider bein satisfied until tRumpy The Clown apologizes for his very existence!!
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:49 PM
Jan 2020

And even then... idk.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
4. Apparently, the VFW failed to pick up on his attitude toward the military after his
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 11:39 AM
Jan 2020

John McCain comments back in 2015.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
5. Don't hold your breath
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 11:42 AM
Jan 2020

Trump never apologizes for anything. He also doesn't give a rat's ass about the troops beyond whether or not they vote for him or are available to become cannon canon fodder for him and his US oligarchy.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
12. I agree with you
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:11 PM
Jan 2020

there is no way he apologizes, his narcissistic personality would never allow fo that.

Things like this, his lying about those who were injured having only a "headache" is not going to go over well with veterans and the military and the general public. Sure his diehard base will continue to support him, but more and more people will start to see just how much of an ass he really is.

calimary

(81,267 posts)
33. Apologizing would mean admitting he was wrong.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:27 PM
Jan 2020

His Infernal “lordship” won’t ever be able to do that.

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
35. I hope so. He keeps alienating people so much
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:30 PM
Jan 2020

that he must be diminishing his supporters.

But if he knows that 2020 is rigged in his favor, then he doesn't care. No matter how many he alienates, he will still "win." And probably declare it the biggest win ever in American history.

DFW

(54,387 posts)
7. VFW is not exactly known as a liberal organization
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 11:45 AM
Jan 2020

If he pisses off big right-leaning organizations out of pure arrogance, his base will erode faster than he'll think possible. Ads for Democratic candidates featuring people like Sen. Tammy Duckworth will have ten times the impact they did before if they include factual statements about Trump brushing them off,

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
9. Agreed 100%, DFW - I'm happily shocked (for real) to see that dt has pissed off the...the VFW???!
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 11:54 AM
Jan 2020

Big, big news, according to me!!

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
13. I totally agree
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jan 2020

the more he opens his big mouth the more trouble he will get into. He is a terrible person, and things like this prove that.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
17. Exactly
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:26 PM
Jan 2020

When I saw the subject, I immediately thought of a few other - Democratic leaning groups, this was a surprise.

As to impact, it is hard to tell. Like many others, I had thought he was dead as soon as he made his idiotic comment on McCain not being a hero because he got caught. Not because he was attacking McCain, but he was implicitly attacking anyone who was a POW. It also would not take much of a leap to wonder if he blamed those injured for their injuries --- just as he blamed the POWs for getting caught. Add to that, that even as a jest, he compared ALL military sacrifices (even if not captured or hit) with his heroism avoiding STCs. That comment should have angered every vet, current soldier and their families that fear for them when they are gone.

That he lacks empathy has been well proven. That comment is not the least bit out of the pattern he has shown since 2015 -- and likely before that when we heard him less.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
23. He thought McCain deserved it for not faking bone spurs.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:48 PM
Jan 2020

Trump doesn't know a lot about anything, but especially definitions of Patriot and Hero.

Cirque du So-What

(25,939 posts)
8. Hell will freeze over first
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 11:48 AM
Jan 2020

It’s good that the VFW demands an apology, but one is not forthcoming - and that in itself is newsworthy. Let Orange Foolius convince the American public through commission of one thoughtless act after another.

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
19. Now I'm waiting for that big shoe (Legion) to drop.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:36 PM
Jan 2020

I'm a member of both and would love to see it. It's way overdue.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
22. The military itself is being recognized as the source for the casualty reports and why the initial
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:47 PM
Jan 2020

reporting was so misleading, I think all of these cases were walking cases and we are being very cautious in diagnosing these men, but why such assurances for days that no one was hurt which led many to passionately claim that Iran meant not to kill our soldiers.

Iran was trying to kill when they attacked bases in the country of Iraq.

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
31. I would bet that
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jan 2020

A vast majority of them voted for Trump, just as they did for Cheney/Rumsfeld........

Of all the groups in America that should be outraged, after the last 20-30 years it should be the veterans and current troops. Especially after the past three years. When the Supreme Commander calls TBI people panty waists, those are fighting words.........

He has absolutely no respect for the military except as his private goon squad.......

Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #31)

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
36. All vets do not vote for him
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jan 2020

I am a vet and I didn't, or would I ever, vote for him. Yes I know a lot of vets, and active military did vote for him last time, but I am not so sure that all of them that did vote last time will do so again, not with crap like this coming out of his mouth.

I also think that many parents of those on active duty are not going to like this kind of talk from someone who got a phony Dr. to get him out of the draft with the so called "bone spurs" excuse!

I really hope people wake up to the fact he is no fit to be in the White House.

UTUSN

(70,695 posts)
21. How many times has VFW hosted & cheered for SHITLER? Besides voting for and otherwise supporting him
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:47 PM
Jan 2020

keithbvadu2

(36,809 posts)
25. Visit to Arlington Cemetery reminded Donald Trump Jr. of all his family's 'sacrifices,' he writes
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:33 PM
Jan 2020

Visit to Arlington Cemetery reminded Donald Trump Jr. of all his family's 'sacrifices,' he writes

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/visit-to-arlington-cemetery-reminded-donald-trump-jr-of-all-his-family-s-sacrifices-he-writes-1.606501

 

fwvinson

(488 posts)
26. On your side
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:40 PM
Jan 2020

Future dictators are suppose to have the military on their side. Don't believe that is how you do it.

Number9Dream

(1,561 posts)
42. I'll bet most of the corporate media will not run this story.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:29 PM
Jan 2020

I live in the Lehigh Valley, PA, and I'll bet the Allentown Morning Call and WFMZ TV will not report that a Veteran's organization demanded an apology from draft-dodger Don.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
47. So far
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 10:15 AM
Jan 2020

the CNN article is all I have found, so you could be right. I just hope the Vets who did vote for him in 2016 start thinking twice before they vote for him again.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
45. He hasn't apologized to Central Park 5 yet... don't hold your breath.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 04:11 AM
Jan 2020

Or President Obama, even after stating he knew birtherism wasn't true at a press conference...

OR...

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